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Royal Children - Time for State school?

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microplastic · 17/07/2024 15:45

Should the Royal Family children be educated in state schools? Why do they get to attend private schools on taxpayers money? Is this something the Labour government could push for?

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Kitte321 · 17/07/2024 17:01

JFC 🤦‍♀️
Could labour force this to happen? No. Because they’re not the boss of everyone are they?

llamajohn · 17/07/2024 17:01

florasl · 17/07/2024 16:53

There are thousands of children sent to private school at the cost of the government, not just the royal families children. All military children are entitled to boarding school fees paid by the taxpayer.

No they're not.

NeverMetASussexSquaddieILiked · 17/07/2024 17:00

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Well quite.

An awful lot to say for someone only here on a work visa.

If they don’t like it? They can always go home.

And yet…

Scorchio84 · 17/07/2024 17:00

cupcaske123 · 17/07/2024 15:52

What about a democratically elected head of state?

I just don't get the royals...I hate my politicans too but at least they're voted in

XDownwiththissortofthingX · 17/07/2024 16:59

BMW6 · 17/07/2024 16:32

The UK already IS a democracy FFS.

Did you sleep through the recent General Election?

Was that the one where Charles was elected Head of State?

Delphiniumandlupins · 17/07/2024 16:59

Probably not a great idea, mostly because of security issues (which are easier to manage at a private school which already has walls to keep the commoners out). Why stop at schooling, would you also insist they shouldn't use private healthcare?

Having said that, I would abolish the RF completely. All this talk of them "using their own money" when they have inherited it over generations...

Ioverslept · 17/07/2024 16:58

Precipice · 17/07/2024 15:47

There shouldn't be "royal" children at all. The UK should become a democracy.

You mean a republic?

DawsonsFreak · 17/07/2024 16:56

microplastic · 17/07/2024 15:45

Should the Royal Family children be educated in state schools? Why do they get to attend private schools on taxpayers money? Is this something the Labour government could push for?

Where is your evidence that taxpayers pay the children's school fees? Working royals are paid through the civil list for work they do as working royals and appropriate security whilst on royal duties. Anything else comes from their own pockets, I believe. I'd like to see your evidence to the contrary.

BarHumbugs · 17/07/2024 16:55

Morph22010 · 17/07/2024 16:51

What like Donald trump? Or maybe president boris. No thanks give me our unelected head of state

You don't want to live in a democracy? WW2 was a waste of time then!

TeenagersAngst · 17/07/2024 16:55

Shielehdie · 17/07/2024 16:21

Taxpayers don’t pay for the private education of the Royal Family’s children. The family pay for it privately using the income from King Charles’s Duchy of Cornwall Estates.

Labour would also never mandate any person be denied the right to privately education their children. Not only would it be a wildly unpopular policy, it would be completely unworkable and would likely breach the European Charter of Human Rights.

I’m a republican and don’t believe we should have a royal family at all, but I don’t see it as the business of government to decide what they spend their own money on.

I think banning private schools is precisely the sort of policy many Labour MPs would love to see - at the Labour Party conference in 2019 (I think), a motion was passed to ban private schools. Angela Rayner and Rachel Reeves are in favour of this.

Putting VAT on school fees, announced in the King's Speech today, also breaches EU law. But that's not stopping them.

XDownwiththissortofthingX · 17/07/2024 16:55

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XDownwiththissortofthingX · 17/07/2024 16:54

ISeriouslyDoubtIt · 17/07/2024 16:38

I assume this is a joke comment? Or are you just stupid? If the monarchy is abolished and we become a republic, do you seriously think that there would be no need for any security costs for the President and their children?!! The head of state and family would run the same risks of assassination, kidnap etc as the royals do now, and the state would fund security for them. So if you're concentrating on security costs it would make no difference.

President/Monarch is not an either/or proposition.

florasl · 17/07/2024 16:53

There are thousands of children sent to private school at the cost of the government, not just the royal families children. All military children are entitled to boarding school fees paid by the taxpayer.

microplastic · 17/07/2024 16:53

BarHumbugs · 17/07/2024 16:52

I don't see why security would be harder in a state school. If you are the head of state, you should be proud of that state and all it provides. they should use the NHS, public transport (which should be state owned) and state schools. If they're not good enough for the head of state, they shouldn't be for anyone else.

Exactly! The state schools should be good enough for them.

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cupcaske123 · 17/07/2024 16:52

Morph22010 · 17/07/2024 16:51

What like Donald trump? Or maybe president boris. No thanks give me our unelected head of state

Luckily in a democracy, other people's views count.

Boomer55 · 17/07/2024 16:52

It might be a good idea, in theory, but the disruption and security that would need to be involved, means it’s not realistic.

Anyway, I’m not sure William and Kate would want the kids mixing with the hoi-polloi🤷‍♀️

Idontpostmuch · 17/07/2024 16:52

Don't be ridiculous. If you say those who are funded by taxpayers shouldn't be in private education, then you have to say the same for the children of anyone who works in the public sector. Some of these parents are highly paid while others just scrape by once they've paid school fees. So why pick on the royals? Secondly, we really don't want them in normal schools. People with children in these über posh private schools can move their children if having the Cambridge-turned Wales children proves too disruptive. State school children are mostly stuck in their catchment schools and it's harder for them to get away. Thirdly, why should people with as much money as the royals also get free education?

BarHumbugs · 17/07/2024 16:52

I don't see why security would be harder in a state school. If you are the head of state, you should be proud of that state and all it provides. they should use the NHS, public transport (which should be state owned) and state schools. If they're not good enough for the head of state, they shouldn't be for anyone else.

Morph22010 · 17/07/2024 16:51

cupcaske123 · 17/07/2024 15:52

What about a democratically elected head of state?

What like Donald trump? Or maybe president boris. No thanks give me our unelected head of state

NeverDropYourMooncup · 17/07/2024 16:51

microplastic · 17/07/2024 15:48

Why would security be an issue, I'm sure that can be accommodated. Don't think it's strong enough a reason.

We have enough trouble keeping out the local gang thugs hunting down random kids who disrespected the friend of a cousin's auntie's best friend's daughter's dog and batshit crazy parents who think that the appropriate response to their kid being given a detention for knocking a little old lady over on the bus as they barge past is to turn up with a mate screaming that they want that cunt/bitch out here NOW so they can have it out with them.

We don't need paparazzi, royal fans, terrorists or your common or garden absolutely fucking lunatics who think that the only way to give the country back to God is to show the world what the family look like underneath their skin (yep, that's one I heard bellowed at me whilst walking past a corner very quickly in town one day).

Awwlookatmybabyspider · 17/07/2024 16:51

I fully agree but it’s not going to happen. It angers me that those who claim a few pounds because they can’t get jobs are called scrounges. Yet we as Tax payers have to happily pay for them to live in their ivory towers and for their kids to be privately educated However in future be mindful you can’t have any negative view about the Royals on here.

Missamyp · 17/07/2024 16:49

How about we do away with everyone who the taxpayer subsidises? Incidently that would be over half the population.
Just an irrational thought!!😆😉

IdLikeToBeAFraser · 17/07/2024 16:49

1 the state does not fund their education. They are privately wealthy (and yes, lots of people have a problem with that but if you're going to get upset with them for private wealth, I assume you're planning on handing back that house you would have inherited when your parents die?)

2 I assume they'll now pay VAT too. Excellent news.

3 Most private schools are significantly smaller, with significantl more resources, and a much higher ratio of teacher to student. This is a huge benefit in the case of children who are genuinely at risk and whose parents must, in 2024, be terrified of the increased risk of social media and the like and what that could mean for their children innocently taking part in a school production, a class discussion or changing for PE.

4 Other royal families may sometimes use some state schooling, but actually, they often send their children to other countries (the UK in particular) where they are often largely invisible. There is significantly less press intrusion etc. The British Royal family is, without a doubt, the most high profile royal family on the planet. In addition, if the royals tried a similar thing - eg sending the kids off to school in another coutnry to sort of remove them from the craziness here, the screaming and yelling "is England not good enough for you" would be insane.

5 Security at private schools is already a nightmare in the context of the royal children. It would be 10x more complicated at most state schools which are significantly bigger and more crowded.

6 Agree or disagree with the existence of the royal family as you like, but at private school they are far less likely to be targeted for being super wealthy super privileged etc. At the local state, there will be a lot more families who will have ethical and moral issues with them and will be quite happy to make those clear to the children in person.

7 if they go to state school, there will be lots of whining about them taking up places that could be used by other children

CheeseCakeSunflowers · 17/07/2024 16:49

I was state educated, my dc were state educated, as were my entire family. I have no problem with others being privately educated as this saves me, as a tax payer, contributing to their education. If everyone currently in the private sector moved to state schools it would increase taxes.

Scentedjasmin · 17/07/2024 16:49

But does the tax payer pay for their school fees or does it come out of their personal income pots? If the latter, then shouldn't you be arguing against all private education? And presumably this would also include after school clubs, activities, tutoring, music and sports lessons and university? We could extend it to college courses, all forms of professional courses and training paid for privately. We could introduce rules to deter anyone from using any of their income towards self improvement and betterment. They could only spend it on disposable items.

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