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Royal Children - Time for State school?

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microplastic · 17/07/2024 15:45

Should the Royal Family children be educated in state schools? Why do they get to attend private schools on taxpayers money? Is this something the Labour government could push for?

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DeadlyKnightshade · 17/07/2024 17:17

Precipice · 17/07/2024 15:47

There shouldn't be "royal" children at all. The UK should become a democracy.

The UK is a democracy. I think you mean a republic.

cupcaske123 · 17/07/2024 17:17

NighttimeNightmare · 17/07/2024 17:15

No, I mean that on the whole they aren’t state school educated.

They currently are, if you check out the current cabinet for example and the PM was state educated. However I take your point that in the past, many politicians have been privately educated.

Cheetahcubs · 17/07/2024 17:16

Nanny0gg · 17/07/2024 17:15

That's the problem

At the moment it's not good enough for my cat

Hahaha that’s so true as well 👏

Janieforever · 17/07/2024 17:16

artandtalk · 17/07/2024 17:13

And where did the Duchy of Cornwall money come from? They didn’t earn it. There’s a strong argument that every single thing they own belongs to us really.

And totally agree with the PP who said that a state boarding school would be totally doable.

Well it doesn’t belong to us, no matter how much you want it to, and they can send their kids any where they please. Their money, their kids, their choice,

Cheetahcubs · 17/07/2024 17:16

What a silly thread! I think OP is trying to wind people up and it’s working!

Nanny0gg · 17/07/2024 17:15

microplastic · 17/07/2024 15:53

Why not? We've had threads heavily debating the VAT, with posters saying that private school parents are snobs. Surely the UK state school system is good enough for the royal family. It's good enough for the rest of us.

That's the problem

At the moment it's not good enough for my cat

florasl · 17/07/2024 17:15

@llamajohn the MOD (aka the taxpayer) pay up to 90% of school fees, most places provide a bursary for the remaining 10% that we looked at. You don’t have to be posted overseas, just reasonably expect that you might be posted more than 50 miles away in the next four years, as postings are 2/3 years it’s reasonably likely for most people.

NighttimeNightmare · 17/07/2024 17:15

cupcaske123 · 17/07/2024 16:45

Sorry don't understand. Do you mean the UK doesn't have a democratically elected PM?

No, I mean that on the whole they aren’t state school educated.

Janieforever · 17/07/2024 17:15

serialcatbuyer · 17/07/2024 17:12

I don't understand why the english are so disrespectful to the royal family. Of course not

The op isn’t English and you can see it’s not the majority just a tiny minority and I suspect that’s due to resentment and envy over the privalge.

artandtalk · 17/07/2024 17:14

LiterallyOnFire · 17/07/2024 17:11

The whole history of how the Duchies of Cornwall and Lancaster came to own so much land and solely benefit the Monarch and the heir is not a democratic history.

Yes.

artandtalk · 17/07/2024 17:13

And where did the Duchy of Cornwall money come from? They didn’t earn it. There’s a strong argument that every single thing they own belongs to us really.

And totally agree with the PP who said that a state boarding school would be totally doable.

Hankunamatata · 17/07/2024 17:13

I may be wrong but I dont think l the taxes pay for royal children's school fees. It's their own investments and income I believe

serialcatbuyer · 17/07/2024 17:12

I don't understand why the english are so disrespectful to the royal family. Of course not

LiterallyOnFire · 17/07/2024 17:11

OhmygodDont · 17/07/2024 15:55

Do we actually pay… doesn’t the Dutchy pay presumably for their schooling if
they are of that part of the line. Id hazard a guess Charles would of used the Dutchy to pay for both Williams and Harry’s children when he was Prince rather then king (had harrry had school age children at the time)

Presumably Harry from his income will pay for his children abroad.

The sisters (Andrew’s daughters) will pay for their childrens via their jobs/their husband.

The whole history of how the Duchies of Cornwall and Lancaster came to own so much land and solely benefit the Monarch and the heir is not a democratic history.

Bananabreadandstrawberries · 17/07/2024 17:10

microplastic · 17/07/2024 15:53

Why not? We've had threads heavily debating the VAT, with posters saying that private school parents are snobs. Surely the UK state school system is good enough for the royal family. It's good enough for the rest of us.

There’s “good enough” which I believe state schools should be, and then there’s “the very best” which is impractical for most state schools but if people can pay to attend or have the privilege to attend, then of course they would.

Pretty sure the future king is going to attend “the very best”. As he should.

IdLikeToBeAFraser · 17/07/2024 17:09

microplastic · 17/07/2024 16:53

Exactly! The state schools should be good enough for them.

I'm sure the education at a good state school would absolutely be good enough for them. But I'm guessing you've never been past the average state school have you? We have 3 excellent state high schools in our area. 2 are rated Outstanding and appear on the Sunday Times Best Schools list. From an education perspective, I am confident that the royal children would do just fine at either of those schools.

But the practicalities!? Oh my god.

Both schools are MASSIVE (6-8 form entry depending on year group) and while well funded and looked after, the additional costs to create the right kind of security - doors, windows, fences, walls etc would be massive. Both schools are in residential areas where traffic and parking is already a nightmare - an additional massive amount of traffic due to rubber neckers, additional security, media etc would be horrendous. I imagine that their security worry also about things like line of sight - so what houses are nearby/gardens are close to the school etc - in densely urban areas, that's going to be a lot more complicated to manage (I don't think it's a coincidence that as the children have started getting older they've moved to a more rural setting for their private school). The schools are both hugely diverse which I would say is actually a good thing, even more so for the royal children. BUT... it does make being able to figure out how to monitor risks or spot those children/families who might target them a lot harder.

Even extra curricular - both schools have strong extracurricular offerings. But NOTHING like what's on offer at a private school. This is more of an issue becuase again, if I was the W&C, I would want as much of what my children do to happen at school where security is already in place and to avoid too much driving around, background checking on groups etc etc etc.

LiterallyOnFire · 17/07/2024 17:09

microplastic · 17/07/2024 15:48

Why would security be an issue, I'm sure that can be accommodated. Don't think it's strong enough a reason.

I think a village school and then state boarding are eminently doable.

llamajohn · 17/07/2024 17:09

florasl · 17/07/2024 17:04

@llamajohn yes they are, the government fund about 8,000 boarding school places for service children.

No the MOD provide an allowance /% of fees of some service children, of their posted overseas bet. . They don't pay every military child's total fees.

It's around 4,000 funded places.

XDownwiththissortofthingX · 17/07/2024 17:08

AzureAnt · 17/07/2024 17:04

Why should we get rid of our monarchy? And replace with some grey bloke in a suit who will..live in a heavily fortified mansion with armed bodyguards and have their children educated privately (and also have bodyguards) why should be give up our traditions, the colour, the pomp, the parades? the excitement of schoolchildren waiting for the King/Queen to visit. The high profile visits to charities, the Knighthood ceremonies? The pride of the families of those who are knighted? The prestige of being honoured by the monarch?
Just leave is and our traditions alone. There is enough crap going on already? Don't make it more depressing
(And I'm not a raging monarchist btw)

How about we get rid of the Monarchy and don't replace it with some bloke in a suit?

We already have an elected Prime Minister who already attends most of the important engagements of the HoS anyway.

The nonsense of the Honours system, the "tradition", and the utter bullshit of the "tourism" argument are some of the reasons why we should begin living in the 21st century and stop pretending its still 15'something.

French murdered their royals, and yet the French tourist industry is just fine. How many Americans/Chinese/Japanese visit Buckingham Palace and actually see a Royal?

MouseofCommons · 17/07/2024 17:08

Do you want to sort out the security? The children, all the other pupils and staff need to be quite literally bombproof. No way could you keep them all safe.

AzureAnt · 17/07/2024 17:04

Why should we get rid of our monarchy? And replace with some grey bloke in a suit who will..live in a heavily fortified mansion with armed bodyguards and have their children educated privately (and also have bodyguards) why should be give up our traditions, the colour, the pomp, the parades? the excitement of schoolchildren waiting for the King/Queen to visit. The high profile visits to charities, the Knighthood ceremonies? The pride of the families of those who are knighted? The prestige of being honoured by the monarch?
Just leave is and our traditions alone. There is enough crap going on already? Don't make it more depressing
(And I'm not a raging monarchist btw)

florasl · 17/07/2024 17:04

@llamajohn yes they are, the government fund about 8,000 boarding school places for service children.

llamajohn · 17/07/2024 17:04

Boomer55 · 17/07/2024 16:52

It might be a good idea, in theory, but the disruption and security that would need to be involved, means it’s not realistic.

Anyway, I’m not sure William and Kate would want the kids mixing with the hoi-polloi🤷‍♀️

Perhaps they don't. But probably for the same sort of reasons you don't want your kids mixing with the county line kids, the kids who are taking knives around with them, the kids who are smoking and driving mopeds round at 4am etc etc

SemperIdem · 17/07/2024 17:03

microplastic · 17/07/2024 15:54

They currently attend schools you know. Surely security measures can be put in, More cost effective than the full cost of their private education.

No shit they attend schools now.

You seemingly don’t understand the cost of security details even slightly.

notbelieved · 17/07/2024 17:03

How ridiculous.

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