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Friend let son (9) go to shop with no adult

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pinkTowel1 · 17/07/2024 14:23

I left my 9 year old son with a friend and have discovered that she let him and their daughter (also aged 9) go to the nearby shops on their own. She never asked me if this was ok with me. It is not something I would have said yes to. He has never done this before. Am I being unreasonable to be upset about this?

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Tiredalwaystired · 17/07/2024 17:35

Whilst I do agree it should be your choice it kind of depends how nearby you mean when you say nearby.

If there are no roads (and especially if the other parent has older kids and has been through this before) it probably never occurred to the other parent it would be an issue. it’s easy to forget that other families might not be where you are.

Alalalalalongalalalalalonglonglilong · 17/07/2024 17:34

They probably should have checked with you but possibly forgot as it's normal for their kid to do this. I personally wouldn't make a big deal of this. It's well about time your DC learned to do this, so it's a good thing.

Delphiniumandlupins · 17/07/2024 17:33

If your friend's daughter is used to doing this it may not have occurred to mum that she needed to let you know in advance.

pinkyredrose · 17/07/2024 17:33

Failing to see the problem. He was probably thrilled to be allowed some independence..

MikeRafone · 17/07/2024 17:33

Why didn’t you stipulate this before you left? If you don’t want your schedule doing stuff you need to say before the event.

Growlybear83 · 17/07/2024 17:33

I would have been furious if anyone had let my daughter go to the shops without an adult at that age. I accept that many people may feel their children woukd be safe in the area where they live, but I would not have considered two 9 year olds were safe in the area of south London where I live. The friend's mother should have asked your permission first.

BeethovenNinth · 17/07/2024 17:31

It depends on the area. Totally fine here. Are you in a city?

Teeheehee1579 · 17/07/2024 17:30

Feelsodrained · 17/07/2024 17:27

Until what age? What if the children are 13? Should she still check? And should she check other minor things with you before he can do them? What if her child plays a computer game and she’s not sure whether you would be happy with him having screen time? Should she check that? What if she takes them to the park but she’s not sure you normally let him on the big slide?

The problem with many parents is that this is exactly what they expect. Full control over every aspect of everything said child does. Can you tell I’ve had a bad week with this sort of thing 😀

Apollo365 · 17/07/2024 17:29

If it was a bus ride YANBU.
local shop (few mins walk, no major roads) YABU

CurlsnSunshinetime4tea · 17/07/2024 17:29

Wow, totally would have expected that a nine year old be able to go to a safe route safe distance on their own and make a simple transaction.

Feelsodrained · 17/07/2024 17:27

auntpanty · 17/07/2024 17:22

I wouldn't be happy. It doesn't matter whether your child is perceived to be old enough she should have checked.

Until what age? What if the children are 13? Should she still check? And should she check other minor things with you before he can do them? What if her child plays a computer game and she’s not sure whether you would be happy with him having screen time? Should she check that? What if she takes them to the park but she’s not sure you normally let him on the big slide?

jolies1 · 17/07/2024 17:25

The shop here is about 5 mins slow walk from our small estate, regularly see kids buying their ice lollies in little groups during the hols. No busy roads to cross & most of the mums know each other (kids know not to misbehave as they will always be caught!). Summer of Y4, especially with an older sibling or start of Y5 seems about the age most allow their kids a bit more independence.

Maria1979 · 17/07/2024 17:25

My DS 11 told me exactly the same thing after having stayed with a friend and I was so proud of him🙂. I'm too afraid to let him out on his own so I'm happy he went with a friend to shop some groceries nearby.

Teeheehee1579 · 17/07/2024 17:25

bebanjo · 17/07/2024 17:24

Of course if you want to look at statistics, a child is far more likely to come to harm in their own home by a member of their own family or a close family friend.

This 100%

bebanjo · 17/07/2024 17:24

Of course if you want to look at statistics, a child is far more likely to come to harm in their own home by a member of their own family or a close family friend.

Teeheehee1579 · 17/07/2024 17:23

Well heaps of praise for your son who had done his first trip to the shops by himself, yes? You cannot control aspects of a play date. It would not occur to me to seek your permission for a presumably perfectly able child. I’ve had a bar this week of parents trying to control all aspects of their perfectly able child's day (child care setting) though so am probably biased. 9 is perfectly fine to go to a shop and unless other parent is barking mad (presumably not since you deemed them fine to care for your child) then I assume they are capable of risk assessing a trip to the shop without your permission and you would do well not to make these things into something more than they are.

auntpanty · 17/07/2024 17:22

I wouldn't be happy. It doesn't matter whether your child is perceived to be old enough she should have checked.

Comedycook · 17/07/2024 17:22

Soontobe60 · 17/07/2024 17:19

Maybe the other parent didnt think that someone would be so protective of a 9 year old that they have never let them out of their sight.

OP, Of course its OK for your DS to go to the shop with a friend at their age.

It's not "of course". It's on the cusp. Some parents will be fine with it, others not. Neither is wrong necessarily

LondonFox · 17/07/2024 17:19

Thc or simmilar shop? No.
Sex shop? Also no.
Pretty much any other type of shop? Of course.
Children older than 7 are capable of navigating shop unless it is accross highway.

Soontobe60 · 17/07/2024 17:19

Starlight1979 · 17/07/2024 15:33

I mean, randomly naming two abduction cases from over 20 years ago is definitely relevant to this thread and really helpful isn't it 🙄That's like me saying I'm never going to go on holiday abroad again because of 9/11.

I agree OP should have been asked but even if she'd been asked and said yes, it doesn't prevent child abduction does it??

What age do you suggest letting children have a bit of freedom @Happygogoat ?

Maybe the other parent didnt think that someone would be so protective of a 9 year old that they have never let them out of their sight.

OP, Of course its OK for your DS to go to the shop with a friend at their age.

lazyarse123 · 17/07/2024 17:19

How do these children learn independence? I bet he also doesn't play out.

InTheRainOnATrain · 17/07/2024 17:18

Pair of 9YOs and assuming a corner shop in a normal residential area with no sketchy roads to cross then it sounds fine and it probably didn’t occur to her that your DS hasn’t done similar before.

cloudy477654 · 17/07/2024 17:17

I let my 9yo go to the shop on her own. It's just down the road so no busy roads to cross. Only during the day too. I would ask the parents if I didn't know if the friend was allowed though.

floradora · 17/07/2024 17:15

Happygogoat · 17/07/2024 15:29

Sarah Payne, Holly and Jessica….. Broad daylight and not alone. And those are just the notoriously famous cases that have stuck with me. There will be many more.

Its nice some people have this confidence. Even in nice areas it only takes one weirdo.

www.statista.com/statistics/303536/child-abduction-in-england-and-wales-uk/#:~:text=There%20were%20approximately%201%2C122%20child,compared%20with%20the%20previous%20year.

Either way, OP should have been asked.

One of the key things about the Holly and Jessica case is that they were not "abducted off the street" - they went with someone they knew and thought they could trust, which prompted a massive tightening of safer recruiting practices and the precursor of DBS checks.

redalex261 · 17/07/2024 17:12

If it’s the local corner shop in a normal residential area I don’t see a problem. TBH nine year olds should be able to do this unless there is some issue with either the area or the child’s competence. Unless the OP expected two 9yo to only play indoors or in their garden? It would be reasonable to expect they could play up and down the street - it’s not a big leap from that to both children walking along to the shop.

For what it’s worth I don’t think risks are higher than they were in the 70s/80s but I do think parents’ fear of “something bad” drives them to be excessively cautious and restrict children from doing anything independently of the parent.