To get irritated by surveys that ask for my 'gender' but not for my sex?

I think the most ridiculous place I encountered this was when looking at nurseries. The form asked child's gender. Options were male, female, non binary 😳 I mean FFS are there really any non binary 3 year olds and under? 🤨

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You mean "Mrs" or "Miss"? I haven't seen that for many a year. I can't remember what it actually says (probably Mrs or Ms). Anyway I've always been a Ms, before I married and now.

You did ask if you were BU to get irritated. Some people are going to say you are.

Absurdly, I had to fill in a veterinary survey which asked whether I knew my dog's 'gender' (no question about my dog's sex). I actually ended up emailing the originator because there was no way to reframe the question online. And it made absolutely no sense.

To be fair, I did get a reply apologising for the wording 😆

I just answer the question. I sometimes give a passing thought to whether someone's getting annoyed about it.

Yes, it really does matter. In 2024, your 'gender' is male if you feel like masculine stereotypes suit you better than feminine ones - though your sex may well be female.

Being logged by systems as a man, you'll receive inappropriate health advice (one 'man' nearly died of an ectopic pregnancy because her health records said she was male).

You'll be included in men-only things and excluded from women-only ones, leading to conflicts of many kinds.

You will be defined and limited by stereotypical masculinity - as many men are, to be sure, but yours will doubtless be even more limiting because of your female body and background.

You're welcome not to care about any of it if your answer to "What is a man?" is something like "A person, male or female, who thinks of themselves in terms of Action Man stereotypes".

I'm welcome to think this is backward-looking bullshit; I don't define myself or other people as any kind of stereotype, and I certainly don't think gender stereotypes matter more than sex.

WiseBiscuit · Today 23:18
On DD’s school application where it had Gender- I put “no idea she’s 4. However her biological sex is Female”

I write similar on any form”

A really sensible reply. It will be her choice when she’s an adult.

On DD’s school application where it had Gender- I put “no idea she’s 4. However her biological sex is Female”

I write similar on any form.

It hacks me off too. If there's room on such questionnaires, I tell them exactly what I think. And yes, it's bowing to the whole identity bullocks.

My other one is age range. On many questionnaires, 60-65 is the last age range. After that you are demographically dead, even though such an age group will have lots of cashed-up "Boomers" in it, whose spending power and preferences are worth knowing about I'd have thought.

I am GC as they come but I just take it to mean sex as there are only two choices in reality. Everyone is either male/female. It’s their problem if they get skewed inaccurate results with skewed thinking.

It's just a word.. does it really matter

Me too. What lives some people must live when they are so easily annoyed. It's a question on a form, end of.

Thats because people got caught up in a cult and got coy about the use of the word sex. The dictionary definition didnt change. If someone asks you the gender of your cat you point out that a cat has no concept of gender but you know its sex is M or F.

@Kriscross as much as I appreciate your reply, the post wasn't about any of the things you've just mentioned. It was about a tick box on a letter saying 'gender' rather than 'sex'.

Run along and do your more important things then.

Leave the protection of female spaces, sports, etc to others. How on earth did you spare the time to answer.

Sadly, some of us work with young people very damaged by this social contagion. I worry about children and the damage it's doing to them, some very confused young people, who are very vulnerable need protection. Give them time to grow and love themselves as they are, rather than assuming changing their body, identity etc is a fix all.

I agree OP, I don’t have a gender, the same as some people don’t have a religion.

People who don’t have a religion shouldn’t have to chose between Jewish / Muslim / prefer not to say. They should be able to chose “ none “ or “ write in” so they can write Buddist / whatever.

People who don’t have a gender should be given the option of “ none”.

Depends on the context. A lot of people still use gender to mean biological sex, especially in the US.
If someone asks what gender your cat is, you can safely assume they're not asking about the societal expectations placed upon it.

Honestly, I have more important things to worry about in life. I'd love to have the time to get so worked up about something this small.

Yes I mean, we know we are, we don't have to 'identify' as one.

The latest crap is what we're you 'assigned' at birth! Beyond stupid.

Sex and gender were never the same thing. Sex has always been biological sex. Gender has always been constructed by society & culture. People never thought gender would or should override sex until recently.

Why should people get behind nonsense though?

Some of us want sex based rights to remain, female spaces, sports etc, not the drip drip drip erasure of biological sex into a female being defined by a man who feels that wearing his hair long, popping on dangling earrings and a skirt means he is one or a ridiculous stereotype of what a woman is. No wonder so many children present as confused with adults leading the confusion.