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To wonder why DS's school is closed this afternoon?

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cottonwoolbrain · 16/07/2024 15:58

It's been in the calendar since the start of term. It does not really cause us an issue as he's 11 and in year 7 and there's usually one of us working from home anyway.

But they're being very vague as to why. Usually they tell us - teacher training, planned repairs etc. but all they've said this time is school closed. DS says someone asked in registration this morning and was just told "because it is"

I can't help wondering if the staff are having an absolutely well deserved party as they reach the end of the school year - I certainly wouldn't begrudge it I'd want a break if I had to spend all year in the company of a thousand noisy kids!!

It just seems - odd Confused

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queenofthewild · 17/07/2024 13:09

Unfortunately threats in schools are rarely from unknown terrorist bogeymen, but usually from violent parents and ex partners (almost always men).

Our laws are in a poor state when it gets to the point that police can visit schools to brief staff about dangerous threats a parent has made, but don't actually have the power to do anything about the threats until they are followed through on.

Children, ex partners and school staff are so often put at risk. Lockdown measures are sadly essential.

JudgeJ · 17/07/2024 12:41

KateDelRick · 16/07/2024 18:50

You are correct.
Times have changed. The school would be fined if it closed for any reason other than agreed INSETS.

I recall about 30 years ago the school where I was teaching had an early closure, 2pm rather than 3.30pm, unspecified to parents, in fact many of the staff, Head included, had tickets to go and see the Rolling Stones!

Kentuckycriedfrickin · 17/07/2024 11:54

I work in a school and we did lockdown training where we went through all the protocols for different types of lockdown, how to handle staff/children missing during a lockdown (e.g., at the toilet), practiced barricading classroom doors with a security wedge thingie, and consider where to hide children. It's not necessarily about terrorism, a lockdown could be needed for all sorts of scenarios - someone taken seriously ill/injured in the corridor and children need to be kept in classrooms, dog in the playground, chemical spill (we're a rural school and the nearby farms use various substances), air ambulance landing (they've used our field in the past), parent kicking off/attempting to do an unauthorised pick up (E.g., parent who doesn't have custody). That was a half day training session.

Apolloneuro · 16/07/2024 22:34

It won’t be a jolly.

I teach in a small, southern, English school. We had whole school training in the event of a terrorist attack. We had to practise evacuating all the children. Probably a couple of years after 9/11. Not particularly relevant, but I was reminded.

Wideskye · 16/07/2024 21:54

School being taken over by a new academy?
New Head taking over?
Discussing arrangements regarding problems with the building such as asbestos etc

BarcardiWithGadaffia · 16/07/2024 21:52

YellowPolkaDotBikini1980 · 16/07/2024 21:45

Maybe youngsters being radicalised. What to look out for, how to dob them in.

Aaah, That makes sense, for some reason I was imagining how to stop terrorists getting into the school, like American school shooters

Chiano · 16/07/2024 21:51

autumn1610 · 16/07/2024 20:11

obviously they don’t call it that to the parents. But it definitely happened I’m not a teacher my housemate was and he said I’m off today it’s Christmas shopping day and then they had their Christmas party in the evening. I lived there for two years and it happened both years

Yes it does happen but the point is the hours will already have been made up elsewhere, e.g. first aid training from 4-6 one day, then two other similar trainings on other days.

Motherofacertainage · 16/07/2024 21:51

It could possibly be disaggregated training time. In layman's terms they use half a day of the 5 allocated as INSET days but give staff time off and do the training in extra after school sessions outside of directed time. So it could be one big jolly or they could be recognizing that lots of mock marking/report writing now happens at this time of year and are giving staff some time, having covered the 2 or 3 hours training in twilight sessions earlier in the year.

YellowPolkaDotBikini1980 · 16/07/2024 21:45

BarcardiWithGadaffia · 16/07/2024 21:38

Where do you live that the risk of terrorism if so high that the staff need special training.

What could civilians learn in half a day that would stop terrorists anyway, that's some pretty high skilled stuff

Maybe youngsters being radicalised. What to look out for, how to dob them in.

Poolstream · 16/07/2024 21:41

They’re all on Amazon buying prime bargains!

BarcardiWithGadaffia · 16/07/2024 21:38

Bornnotbourne · 16/07/2024 21:19

My kids school did this. Some parents were up in arms till they found out it was terrorism training

Where do you live that the risk of terrorism if so high that the staff need special training.

What could civilians learn in half a day that would stop terrorists anyway, that's some pretty high skilled stuff

TimeandMotion · 16/07/2024 21:35

Bornnotbourne · 16/07/2024 21:19

My kids school did this. Some parents were up in arms till they found out it was terrorism training

I think you meant anti- terrorism training!

Bornnotbourne · 16/07/2024 21:19

My kids school did this. Some parents were up in arms till they found out it was terrorism training

Kentuckycriedfrickin · 16/07/2024 20:44

Possibly time put aside for end of term jobs in school.whjch are far easier and faster to do when there are no children in school as you can have all hands on deck rather than just 2-3 LSAs released from normal duties. For example, doing an inventory and sort out of resources, cataloguing the library books, taking down displays, putting up fresh backing paper, organising the reading books and repairing all the ripped ones, organising classroom cupboards, putting away the new school supplies, preparing next terms exercise books with labels and tags, putting new tags on coat pegs and drawers, etc.

CaptainMyCaptain · 16/07/2024 20:24

scarletbegoniass · 16/07/2024 20:00

I assumed you meant there was a half day after they received the offer, which is in the school year. So you got a half day in honour of students from the previous year getting the grades for their Oxbridge offer? That’s just bizarre

The context of my post was the OP about a whole school being closed for the day so I assumed people would realise I meant the whole school would close.

Looking back on it I suppose it was bizarre. But it was the 60s/very early 70s and we didn't question it.

CaptainMyCaptain · 16/07/2024 20:22

Octavia64 · 16/07/2024 19:14

A school near me has an inset day early December.

They then do the actual training early over a few evenings.

Staff then get the day off as a Christmas shopping day.

They've been doing it twenty years and still going.

I'm pretty envious to be honest.

It's called a disaggregated training day.

ItsBinDayToday · 16/07/2024 20:17

I doubt it’s a party. DDs school finishes early on friday, all the schools I’ve worked in finished early last day of term and we encouraged everyone to leave asap.
On a Tuesday is seems a bit random. It isn’t somewhere that’s becoming an academy or changing MAT so they can speak to all the staff?

autumn1610 · 16/07/2024 20:11

KateDelRick · 16/07/2024 19:09

No I didn't, the point is that random days and late closures will result in the school being fined.
I've never heard of a closure for Christmas shopping since about 1983, but if folks claims it happens....

obviously they don’t call it that to the parents. But it definitely happened I’m not a teacher my housemate was and he said I’m off today it’s Christmas shopping day and then they had their Christmas party in the evening. I lived there for two years and it happened both years

Ratsoffasinkingsauage · 16/07/2024 20:01

@KateDelRick That’s not true. When the teachers co tracts we’re rewritten in the 80s and it was decided to disaggregate pay over 12 months, rather than paying teacher for just the months in school (same money spread over more months) they also took five days of paid holidays allowance to make the inset days. Schools can calendar onset as they see fit and use them for any purpose- some give staff time back. Next year my school has one at the beginning of each term yo allow us to get up and running.

scarletbegoniass · 16/07/2024 20:00

CaptainMyCaptain · 16/07/2024 19:02

Because the people who had got into Oxford or Cambridge had already left school.

I assumed you meant there was a half day after they received the offer, which is in the school year. So you got a half day in honour of students from the previous year getting the grades for their Oxbridge offer? That’s just bizarre

Onelifeonly · 16/07/2024 19:58

It is likely staff related if they won't say why. Probably not a leaving do as I've never known one to be in school hours and a party wouldn't be on a Tuesday, surely, if they finish on Friday. End of academic year not a good time for training, especially if staff are leaving. Maybe putting on a show for the students?

In my experience, secondary schools often aggregate hours and have odd times off though - they seem to get away with little or no explanation, compared to primary schools where childcare is a big issue.

Hugesunflower · 16/07/2024 19:50

Presentation afternoon for the staff who are leaving is my guess.

surreygirl1987 · 16/07/2024 19:49

TheNinthLock · 16/07/2024 16:49

It’s clear enough.
The clue is WE HAD half a day off….
Not - we GAVE half a day off to anyone who got into Oxford or Cambridge, but we had.
We had = All of us received

Ha, no, I'm sorry, but I agree with the others... it's clear as mud.

BarcardiWithGadaffia · 16/07/2024 19:46

KateDelRick · 16/07/2024 19:09

No I didn't, the point is that random days and late closures will result in the school being fined.
I've never heard of a closure for Christmas shopping since about 1983, but if folks claims it happens....

I was speaking to a teacher at a party recently and this subject came up, she said they have it at her school but maybe they call it something else. Secondary school but no idea if it's an academy

WittyFatball · 16/07/2024 19:22

Is it an academy? My child's school does this at least once a term - sends the children home after registration so it still counts as a full day!

Sometimes it is for a specific reason like they have an open evening or parent's evening later, sometimes it's just because it is the end of term.