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Brown haired white kids never in photos

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StevieChicks · 16/07/2024 12:00

Just that really.
Seen the new school prospectus. Beautiful blond children everywhere, front cover and throughout, a few mixed race children, fewer black and Asian students (because racism) but without a doubt the least photographed children are kids like mine. Children with naturally brown, mousey or dark brown hair.
It's not the same as racism and I would not for a second think that this trivial matter is in any way similar to other discourses around representation. And maybe I have a chip on my shoulder from the eighties when I was never a Disney princess and had to be the evil witch. It doesn't feel like much has changed.
My son's hair is thick and dark brown/ black. He has very pale skin. I just don't see this as the desired aesthetic. The world still goes mad for blonde children.

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Demonhunter · 16/07/2024 13:25

Just looked at my kids school website. Just the front page... Filipino girl hair tied back, below that white, light brown hair boy blue eyes, below that red haired boy, green eyes, below that black girl with braids, below that white, dark brown hair boy with brown eyes. That's just scrolling down the front page!

Wotcher · 16/07/2024 13:25

LutonBeds · 16/07/2024 12:21

I wasn’t allowed to be an angel in my nativity play because I had dark hair. The school only
chose blond children.

Same. I remember being cast as a troll and a skeleton 🙄 but never anything nice or girly. Never an angel, or fairy.

There is definitely a bias and always has been.

EndOfTheDayItGetsDark · 16/07/2024 13:25

YABU, all dark-haired kids in ours! It's random. Honestly, staff haven't got time. I think you're overthinking it tbh. If anything they're so careful now to be inclusive of all cultures. It isn't the 90s.

Grimedd · 16/07/2024 13:24

I have a fair haired daughter and a dark haired daughter. The amount of fuss blonde kids get for their hair is silly. They subsequently sometimes struggle when they get older and it turns brown. I know 3 girls who really hated it when their hair darkened at puberty and begged for bleach. My fair daughter got loads of fuss and was told she was beautiful by complete strangers when she was small. No one has ever said that about my dark haired daughter and she is stunning.

Rollercoaster1920 · 16/07/2024 13:24

Marmite27 · 16/07/2024 12:52

Why would this matter?

My kids go to a Catholic school and there are children of all ethnic backgrounds that attend. The only common denominator, (other than human) is their parents choice of religion.

FYI, mine are both brown haired and feature prominently on the schools website.

The Catholic schools I know (in London) have a high proportion of Irish, Southern Europe, South American, and African families due to the geopolitical history of Catholicism. So a lot of brown haired kids. There was only one blond child in our daughter's class.

Taking photos of children for the prospectus to avoid brown hair would have been really hard.

Highfivemum · 16/07/2024 13:24

At our local school it is the kids whose parents are PTA or governors. It’s the same with the kids chosen each year to play lead roles in school shows. Always the same kiddies

RandomUsernameHere · 16/07/2024 13:23

Thick, dark hair for a male is a desired aesthetic though isn't it? That's where the phrase "tall, dark and handsome" comes from. It's a cliche but it's true that this is widely considered to be attractive. I know you're talking about children not adults, but I think it also applies to boys.

focacciamuffin · 16/07/2024 13:22

All pale skinned with brown or blonde hair. Roughly 50/50. No obvious ginger hair at all.

YouveGotAFastCar · 16/07/2024 13:20

I've just looked at my closest two schools - both have far more dark haired white children than blonde haired.

I suspect this is a personal bias, or an issue with your specific school.

sonjadog · 16/07/2024 13:20

I just checked out my old school and there is a mix of hair colours in all pictures. What there aren't, are photos of non-white children, but the school is in an area where there are few non-white people living, so I think it is probably more a representation of the school as it actually is rather than a deliberate oversight.

Plomant · 16/07/2024 13:17

Yazzi · 16/07/2024 12:36

I'm sure redheads everywhere will be fascinated to hear it's actually blonde hair which is openly mocked and disliked

As a (very!) blonde person I have spent a lot of my life having the piss taken out of me for my hair. Not so much now as an adult, although called a ‘dumb blonde’ a lot in my twenties, bullied for it as a teen.
It’s nothing compared to what red heads get though I know

GonnaGetWetter · 16/07/2024 13:16

In our school it's the nepo babies that are featured in every PR exercise. My stunningly beautiful blonde, blue eyed dc has never, ever been on any of these photos or videos. Nepo baby in dc's class on the other hand is featured all the time. Harumph.

brunettemic · 16/07/2024 13:13

Every picture on the website of my DS’s high school is a white kit with brown hair 😂

Bluebirdover · 16/07/2024 13:13

Fizzyjuice · 16/07/2024 12:14

My kids are ginger.

You don't even acknowledge their existence in your OP.

Well said!

Fizzyjuice · 16/07/2024 13:12

Yazzi · 16/07/2024 12:36

I'm sure redheads everywhere will be fascinated to hear it's actually blonde hair which is openly mocked and disliked

I've never heard anyone question a blonde person if they have a soul.

UniversalAunt · 16/07/2024 13:12

There is a photogenic bias which for the subject may just have the luck of the genetic draw, e.g good facial features, bone structure, eye colour, swishy hair, athletic build etc.

Take a look at mainstream movies, TV etc at the casting for the heroes & sometimes villains, you will find a disproportionate number of people with blue or green eyes with skin & hair colour secondary/discretionary.

Recently mass media & commercials have featured a disproportionate number of people of mixed race &/or ethic variation. This works because consumers like to buy that lifestyle or that representation of society. Should this no longer ‘sell’ the ideas, goods &/or services, then the format will adapt to what consumers prefer & that may be something entirely new. Nothing is fixed.

Azandme · 16/07/2024 13:10

StevieChicks · 16/07/2024 12:10

@Samdrad do you have children? You will notice if they look like mine.

I'm blonde - never noticed any difference in how I was treated vs friends with brown hair.

My dd12 has brown hair and brown eyes and never noticed her being treated differently to blonde kids either.

This is your issue, not "an issue".

50shadedofmagnolia · 16/07/2024 13:10

I've just checked my child's school prospectus and loads of brown haired white kids🤷‍♀️.
It looks like they picked the kids that were dressed in full school logo uniform and were nicely presented 🤣

Helpimfalling · 16/07/2024 13:08

Fizzyjuice · 16/07/2024 12:14

My kids are ginger.

You don't even acknowledge their existence in your OP.

👏

Helpimfalling · 16/07/2024 13:08

StevieChicks · 16/07/2024 12:10

@Samdrad do you have children? You will notice if they look like mine.

Well thank the lord they're actually starting to represent mine.

Instead of the ones that represent myself.

StevieChicks · 16/07/2024 13:04

@LateAF oh completely! Yes my friend stopped permission for her gorgeous son to be used by the same reason.
When I speak about my kids colouring not being included, I also think the Syrian, Kurdish, Italian and Spanish kids who are very dark haired. We're in an inner city, there is no excuse for the prospectus to look how it does.

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SeaGalz · 16/07/2024 12:59

Any images would need parental permission to be used. I always used to deny permission when mine were at school ( blond and brown haired) perhaps the schools just work with whatever images they are allowed to use.

Mammillaria · 16/07/2024 12:59

Just checked the prospectuses for my DC's schools out of curiosity.

Definitely not a thing at either of their schools.

What was surprising was that they both only featured thin kids, even though I know DD's school got the drama students to pose for the last set of photos and as a group they are a diverse-sized bunch.

LateAF · 16/07/2024 12:58

As someone with black kids in a very white school, we have the opposite problem. Racism is swept under the rug by the teachers and staff but they then want to push our children on all the school promotional material to show diversity. What matters more than the photos is how your children are treated at school - do they discriminate against darker haired/skinned children? Do they respond adequately to complaints or pretend that racist comments / bullying never happened? Do they automatically believe the white blonde child over your darker haired child without question?

That said, I don't doubt you that the person selecting the prospectus photographs may have had a blonde bias that day. But if your children are otherwise happy and treated well at the school, it doesn't seem to me that this is the hill to die on.

MrsSunshine2b · 16/07/2024 12:56

Poolstream · 16/07/2024 12:51

Surely it depends what the demographic is in the school.
@MrsSunshine2b you obviously have acting talent, Olivia Coleman is brown haired and white.

It's something I enjoy and work hard at, but it does always amaze me the way (some) parents will find any reason why their child has been unfairly penalised by not being cast in a lead role, rather than the usual reasons:

  • They are painfully shy and will clam up on stage
  • They can't remember what they had for breakfast, let alone lines
  • They/the parents have a track record of not turning up on time or at all for various things
  • Another child was better than them.
It's rarely a declaration that the child is "untalented", I'd say it's much rarer that all the children on stage are talented, they are just reliable, confident and can remember their lines.

And it's definitely not because of their hair colour.