To get irrationally irritated by waiting for latecomers when I’ve made the effort to be on time?

See, you’d annoy me more than a latecomer

You can’t do this because some people have lateness as a reasonable adjustment

Not being unreasonable at all.

why is their time more precious than you. Of course I fully understand shit happens & we can all be late at times, but that’s in rare circumstances!

As someone who is habitually early I cannot abide habitual lateness. Yes sometimes someone is held up unavoidably but if a thing is scheduled to start at a given time and most of the audience are there on time then bloody well start on time.

If you anticipate lateness then have a doors at 7 start at 7:15 type thing to give the latecomers a bit of leeway (but I’m not really a fan of this approach)

I present often and give a few minutes grace before I start. People arrive late for all sorts of reasons and I find it difficult to get into the flow when people arrive late and audience members feel that distraction too. It's not great for the people in the room but some appreciate that time to grab a coffee, use the facilities or have a chat. I'm an earlier arriver if that helps 😄

I present often and give a few minutes grace before I start. People arrive late for all sorts of reasons and I find it difficult to get into the flow when people arrive late and audience members feel that distraction too. It's not great for the people in the room but some appreciate that time to grab a coffee, use the facilities or have a chat. I'm an earlier arriver if that helps 😄

I present often and give a few minutes grace before I start. People arrive late for all sorts of reasons and I find it difficult to get into the flow when people arrive late and audience members feel that distraction too. It's not great for the people in the room but some appreciate that time to grab a coffee, use the facilities or have a chat. I'm an earlier arriver if that helps 😄

Where I work it used to be really easy to be late. You of course wouldn't be logged In on the tills but you could always argue that u didn't log In straight away and instead tidied up or ran shop errands etc

Eventually they switched to clock In methods where you had to physically be on the premises to be able to log in. Which was great for a while until people started coming in on time, clocking in then going for a cigarette/making a phone call/ getting changed and taking forever. So annoying when you are the person In first and you have waited hours to get anyone in and/or pee or get food and then they keep you waiting even bloody longer whilst being paid for fucking about

I do think there are neurological differences between people and it's not really instinctual to live to a '5 minute clock'.

I tend to find that the 'early' people are much more likely to be amongst the early risers too.
I have ADHD. But it's the ASD spectrum people who seem to be over represented in the always-on-time-if-not-early group.
The difference in time-keeping abilities and waking hours are one of the main reasons I object to the new adhd/autism (combined) diagnoses. They used to be mutually exclusive and should have stayed that way to ensure a better targeted help - quite a few psychiatrists agree.
The early people also seem to just love the clock! There is this need to have a clear time plan laid out for everything, no matter how casual the occasion - the start, the duration and the end times.
They are also the most likely to use the phrase "the day is running away" or "the day is over" - at like 12pm.

I'm sometimes late, not often. But the mental gymnastics and the physical fitness I need to put into it, is astounding. I'm not disrespecting anyone - why would I make myself feeling faint and nearly sick at work after running with a backpack and in a heavy coat for 30mins to make it there on time.
I'm like a 5-foot-nothing basketball player who has to put in disproportionate effort and jump higher and harder than the other players will ever have to, just to get to the ball. If I drop the effort... I come up short (literally and time-wise).
I've set up my life so that I barely need to be anywhere on the dot. I avoid timed things.
But I can understand the lateness annoyance. Probably similar to how I feel about folk with different ways.

People are diverse and most are in between the time keeping extremes. If you're a clock watcher, be glad - this world is mostly set up for your neurology!

Though sounds like Italy is calling my name 😁 The weather's better too... 🤔

I’m an academic. How do you suggest this is carried out across scheduled lectures and seminars? It’s all very well to police this with one-off small sessions, but if I have a weekly second-year lecture in a 300-seater theatre at 11 on Tuesdays with two doors at the back and me at a lectern down at the front, a long way from the entrances, are you suggesting the university employs security staff to bar latecomers at the door? I can’t lock the only fire exits to the theatre with hundreds of students inside before I begin, and I certainly can’t interrupt my lecture to tell latecomers to leave, as that is both monumentally frustrating for me and the people who are listening and arrived on time.

When I worked in industry and had several meetings per day, the firm had a rule that you could only book meetings to start on the hour and the booking was for a fixed 50 minutes. So everyone had at least a ten minute gap between meetings for the loo, make a drink, make a phone call, etc, and still have time to get to the next meeting on time, even for back to back meetings. Most meetings were less than 50 minutes so you had more time doing other. It meant meetings generally ran on time. If something couldn’t be fully discussed/resolved within 50 minutes, you’d book more than one session and break it down - the rule was that it had to be a different day, which meant managers could keep up with other things rather than spending a whole half day in one meeting. All worked really well.

My son’s Uni careers dept had the right idea when they did “mock” job interviews and mock group interviews/group tasks over a few weeks. Students got one slot for each and were told they’d not be admitted if they were late. Students chose their own slots via an online booking system with lots of options and were told to choose dates/times that wouldn’t clash with lectures and which were do-able having regard to transport options etc. Basically no excuses for anyone being late. He said the doors did indeed close at exactly the start time and late students weren’t admitted and couldn’t rebook a future session - they lost out. The sessions started and finished bang on time and there were no interruptions etc. A great learning experience for the late students who missed out and better sessions for the majority who got there on time and didn’t have distractions.

He said he wished they’d done it with lectures and seminars as there was always a steady stream of latecomers disrupting the session, who just casually strolled in when they felt like it!

That makes no sense at all and is frankly the organisers' fault
Start the show on time FGS and refuse to let the barflies in - having wasted the price of their ticket they'll soon learn

I was running late for a lecture at uni. I ran, literally ran, in the old fashioned sense of the word ‘literally’, to class and the lecturer saw me running past the big glass windows at the end of the lecture hall. I snuck in quietly, mouthed ‘I’m sorry I’m late’ and sat down in the nearest seat as unobtrusively as possible.

I was still catching my breath 30 seconds later when two other students sauntered in, carrying coffees and talking away to each other. He exploded at them!

I’m so glad my parents taught me good manners. And that attitude is (almost) everything.

I was well-known for starting my trainings and meetings on the dot. To ensure people then weren't delayed for other obligations they had.

When people turned up late, it wasn't a problem - I always made sure there were minutes or handouts covering all material, so they could catch up later. But in fact, people began turning up on time.

And if you let timings slip, what happens is that people get fed up of waiting for others, so they then stop turning up on time. I've seen weekly meetings gradually shift their unofficial start times by over half an hour because of this 'lateness drift', especially when some of those who are habitually late were consultant doctors. When I chaired, these were back to their official start time within three weeks, because it turns out even consultants don't want to miss being part of decisions that are made in the first half of a meeting. It's also a simple task to delay a discussion where a particular person is needed.

Of course, occasionally people get delayed - but I wouldn't expect a whole meeting to wait for me in that case, and would suggest it's quite entitled to expect that.

My biggest pet hate. I used to be in uniformed services and the mantra was "if you're on time, you're late". I've now switched to another career where no one is on time and it infuriates me . I'm sick of hearing "let's wait 10 minutes for such and such". No, let's just start on time. Argggghhhhhhhh

Starting on time only inconveniences the latecomers. Waiting for latecomers inconveniences everyone else

This - the additional problem being that, once habitual latecomers know there'll be 10 minutes allowed, they'll just tack this onto the original start time (plus an extra 10 minutes in all likelihood)

When I used to train, especially if it was something attendees really needed to progress, I'd just refuse entry to the persistent ones; needless to say it sorted it out pretty fast

My yoga teacher is the same. She won't allow lateness. I'm thankful for her because we only get one hour and losing 5 minutes because of latecomers impacts our session over all.

I hate being late!!! Despise! My mother in law has no concept of time and when she is coming to visit us, she regularly misses her coach. She makes us late for any plans we have and she always prioritises herself over anyone else.

She wants a cup of tea first, she needs to do something on her phone etc etc

That sounds like complete stupidity on the part of the organisers. I sincerely doubt anyone was expecting the start time to be delayed 45 minutes for them personally.

I love that - a "6 minute rule" 😁

It is so specific - not 5 minutes, or 10 minutes, but 6 minutes!!

I wonder why he chose that amount?!

I don't work in an office environment, so work lateness doesn't affect me. At ticketed events though? Live shows like comedy, theatre etc all begin late as standard now because people can't drag themselves away from the bar. Ffs!

Yes hate people being late such a bad habit. My doctor did a thread about people late it effects her next apts. Then ranting to be seen. Same with office meetings and they breeze in then!

I can't stand people who are regularly late. Worse is knowingly being late and still doing it! It's egotistical - they're saying their time is more valuable than mine. If I have to be somewhere at a certain time, I plan the journey time plus a 10-15 min buffer because that's just good planning and good manners.

My kids had a sports event recently due to start at say 11am. So obvs we arrived before to queue, change and register. It was meant to be 2 hours. At 11.45 there were still parents traipsing their kids in. Not changed, not ready, just casually strolling in late. The event couldn't properly start til everyone arrived. How can you be the best part of an hour late?! There were no road accidents, plenty of parking, no apologies given. We ended up being sat there for well over 3.5 hours which is totally unfair on all the kids just waiting and waiting.

This used to drive me insane at uni, mainly because the people who were late lived literally across the road from the building most of out lectures were in.

I'm more lenient if you have two busses to catch or something else happened but not when it ia habitual.