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I don’t understand why he wants me to stay

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Diabla · 16/07/2024 07:42

I’m in a tough spot and need some advice. Yesterday, I told my husband that I want to separate because he hasn’t been contributing at home. We have a 6-year-old child. His response was to tell me that I need to explain to our son that I’m the one breaking up the family. He also said he would stop picking our son up from school and taking him to football practice, leaving it all to me.

I don’t have feelings for my husband anymore. He doesn’t help around the house, doesn’t contribute financially, and neglects his own well-being. We haven’t been getting along, and it’s affecting our son’s behavior. I feel stuck in a vicious cycle. My husband insists on keeping the family together because he grew up with a single parent.

I can’t continue living like this—I resent him every day. He watches me through cameras at home, leaving me no privacy.

Why does he want me to stay, and what should I do? Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

OP posts:
IdLikeToBeAFraser · 16/07/2024 13:29

ByLoudSeal · 16/07/2024 13:25

I had depression for about a year and I didn’t even know what it was. It just hadn’t occurred to me because depression presents differently and I had different ideas about what it was the original posters. Husbands might be very paranoid about a break in, Hence, the cameras. There could be all kinds of reasons linked to his mental health as to why he behaves the way that he does. I know you’re right about mental health is not being an excuse for abuse and he should definitely be doing something about it, but it is a reason and not an excuse. And unless I have missed anything from what’s the original poster has described, it really doesn’t sound like abuse to me

I appreciate that your own experience is driving your view on this, but the only comment OP made that might be considered a sign of him having a problem is tha the doesn't care for himself. Everythign else is abusive. And whether or not that is due to mental health, if he's not willing to even consider that he's the problem, then no, she doesn't have to stick with him.

Let's list:
He doesn't contribute at home - lazy or abusive
If they break up, she must tell her son that SHE is breaking up the family - abusive and controlling
Threatens to withdraw care for child if they separate - abusive and controlling
Doesn't contribute financially (while also not contributing practically) - financially abusive. Also lazy.
Watches her through cameras - abusive and massive invasion of privacy. Also, controlling

ByLoudSeal · 16/07/2024 13:25

IdLikeToBeAFraser · 16/07/2024 13:03

For a start, any health issue does NOT justify abuse.

Second, even if he IS unwell, if he's not doing anything about it, then she does not have to put up with it. I'm there supporting DH in any illness, including mental health, he might suffer. I'm gone the day he expects his illness to be something he doesn't have to acknowledge or deal with while expecting me to completely change my life to accomodate it.

I had depression for about a year and I didn’t even know what it was. It just hadn’t occurred to me because depression presents differently and I had different ideas about what it was the original posters. Husbands might be very paranoid about a break in, Hence, the cameras. There could be all kinds of reasons linked to his mental health as to why he behaves the way that he does. I know you’re right about mental health is not being an excuse for abuse and he should definitely be doing something about it, but it is a reason and not an excuse. And unless I have missed anything from what’s the original poster has described, it really doesn’t sound like abuse to me

PivotPivotmakingmargaritas · 16/07/2024 13:25

Unplug or throw a towel on the cameras when you are there

but run he wants you to stay as life is easier and cheaper

you will have financial freedom even if your son has to go to wrap around care you want have a man child to feed etc and put a cms claim in asap

Run now see a lawyer go go go

Wontletmeusemynormalname · 16/07/2024 13:09

Diabla · 16/07/2024 12:00

To me, these are clear indications he’s keeping an eye on me too

Yes.....so unplug them.

KeirSpoutsTwaddle · 16/07/2024 13:06

OP, you haven’t told us enough about your circumstances. Where does he go when he’s watching you on the cameras? Does he work?

Who’s house it it? Rented? Social? Owned with a mortgage?

He’s abusive, without doubt. The answers to the above impact what you can do about it.

IdLikeToBeAFraser · 16/07/2024 13:03

ByLoudSeal · 16/07/2024 12:55

You committed to marrying him through sickness and health. He is mentally unwell, from what you describe possibly depressed. You should talk to him about that possibility, and ask him to make small changes until he becomes well again

For a start, any health issue does NOT justify abuse.

Second, even if he IS unwell, if he's not doing anything about it, then she does not have to put up with it. I'm there supporting DH in any illness, including mental health, he might suffer. I'm gone the day he expects his illness to be something he doesn't have to acknowledge or deal with while expecting me to completely change my life to accomodate it.

MrsSlocombesCat · 16/07/2024 13:02

ByLoudSeal · 16/07/2024 12:55

You committed to marrying him through sickness and health. He is mentally unwell, from what you describe possibly depressed. You should talk to him about that possibility, and ask him to make small changes until he becomes well again

I literally have no words. What planet are you on?

Cheeseandpickleroll · 16/07/2024 12:58

ByLoudSeal · 16/07/2024 12:55

You committed to marrying him through sickness and health. He is mentally unwell, from what you describe possibly depressed. You should talk to him about that possibility, and ask him to make small changes until he becomes well again

Or he could take responsibility for his own actions and let the OP leave without continuing to display what a dangerous arsehole he is

SamW98 · 16/07/2024 12:58

ByLoudSeal · 16/07/2024 12:55

You committed to marrying him through sickness and health. He is mentally unwell, from what you describe possibly depressed. You should talk to him about that possibility, and ask him to make small changes until he becomes well again

Unwell? No he sounds like an abusive controlling manipulative cocklodging wanker. Not sure that’s a recognised mental illness tbh

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 16/07/2024 12:57

ByLoudSeal · 16/07/2024 12:55

You committed to marrying him through sickness and health. He is mentally unwell, from what you describe possibly depressed. You should talk to him about that possibility, and ask him to make small changes until he becomes well again

He's filming her without her consent because he's depressed, is he?

Jesus wept.

ByLoudSeal · 16/07/2024 12:55

You committed to marrying him through sickness and health. He is mentally unwell, from what you describe possibly depressed. You should talk to him about that possibility, and ask him to make small changes until he becomes well again

BobbyBiscuits · 16/07/2024 12:53

Get him out of the house. If it's his house then get yourself and kid to your family's, or a mates.
You can tell your son the truth, that his dad does nothing and makes you really sad so we're not going to live together anymore.
He's an arsehole.

RunningJo · 16/07/2024 12:52

Chickenuggetsticks · 16/07/2024 07:44

He wants you to stay precisely because he’s not financially contributing or doing anything around the house. You are what makes his life easier, if you go he has to do more himself. It’s got nothing to do with growing up with a single parent and everything to do with him losing his life crutch.

Absolutely this

Aligirlbear · 16/07/2024 12:50

Chickenuggetsticks · 16/07/2024 07:44

He wants you to stay precisely because he’s not financially contributing or doing anything around the house. You are what makes his life easier, if you go he has to do more himself. It’s got nothing to do with growing up with a single parent and everything to do with him losing his life crutch.

This exactly - why would he want to separate when effectively he has domestic staff and a magic money tree ( i.e. you) at his beck and call

Cheeseandpickleroll · 16/07/2024 12:47

Diabla · 16/07/2024 11:59

he’s been keeping an eye on our dog who has separation anxiety, but it turns out he’s also keeping an eye on me. The other day, he called to ask if I had come home after dropping the LO off at school because he didn’t see me on the camera.

Then this morning, while I was getting the bikes ready for another school drop-off, he saw me on the camera again and reminded me to lock them up …

Leave. Now, today if you can. He's dangerous and I'm not saying that to be hysterical. His behaviour is escalating already and he's conditioning you to accept it.

IdLikeToBeAFraser · 16/07/2024 12:05

So turn the cameras off when you're there and leave them on when you're not.

But really, you just need to get away from him as quickly as possible.

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 16/07/2024 12:02

He doesn't get to decide whether you divorce him or not. And you should divorce him because he's an abusive cocklodger who doesn't love you and refuses to provide for your child.

Break the cameras.

Diabla · 16/07/2024 12:00

To me, these are clear indications he’s keeping an eye on me too

OP posts:
Diabla · 16/07/2024 11:59

he’s been keeping an eye on our dog who has separation anxiety, but it turns out he’s also keeping an eye on me. The other day, he called to ask if I had come home after dropping the LO off at school because he didn’t see me on the camera.

Then this morning, while I was getting the bikes ready for another school drop-off, he saw me on the camera again and reminded me to lock them up …

OP posts:
pauletteRebchuck · 16/07/2024 11:54

First response is spot on.

Why has he put cameras around the house?

Dweetfidilove · 16/07/2024 10:50

Chickenuggetsticks · 16/07/2024 07:44

He wants you to stay precisely because he’s not financially contributing or doing anything around the house. You are what makes his life easier, if you go he has to do more himself. It’s got nothing to do with growing up with a single parent and everything to do with him losing his life crutch.

Pretty much. You haven't even said anything about him trying to make changes.

You carry on with your plans and leave him to figure himself out.

You've already noticed it's affecting your son's behaviour, so please give him the gift of a healthy atmosphere.

ThreeEggOmlette · 16/07/2024 10:46

Oh and fuck that shit with the cameras.

Turn the fuckers off.

ThreeEggOmlette · 16/07/2024 10:45

An adult reaction to you announcing you want to separate would be (after maybe an initial shocked period):

"I didn't realise things were this bad. Can we sit down and discuss this and see if we can find a way forward? I love you, I don't want to break up and I want to be a good father and I want us to be a team"

Or words to that effect.

You got:
"Waaaah! I'm not doing anything at all then. My revenge is to be shit dad. You're MEAN!"

Personally, I would feel secure and reassured that leaving was the right thing to do. And while it will be painful now, in the long run you will be happier and healthier.

Sicario · 16/07/2024 10:39

Please contact Women's Aid. They can give you advice about leaving an abusive relationship. And get rid of his cameras. That is full-on controlling behaviour and is against the law.

He doesn't own you.
You have full autonomy over your life.

IdLikeToBeAFraser · 16/07/2024 10:35

You don't have to convince him. This is a decision you get to make as a complete standalone. He does not contribute and he is invading your privacy. The trck is figuring out how you get rid of him - experience tells me that with men like this you can't get rid of him unless YOU leave. Do you have the finances to find somewhere else to rent?

YOu will also have to accept that he will most likely stop seeing your DS as a way to punish you. That's really awful but there is an argument that a man who can and would do this is not someone who would have been a good and reliable father long term so it's not like you're losing out there.

As for your son - he will tell him stuff. You will have to manage that. That will be difficult. But please, do NOT lie to him. Obviously, don't rant and rave about your ex but that doesn't mean you should take responsibility either.