AIBU to feel frustrated with restaurant?

So unlikely, it actually hasn’t happened.

@mutationseagull I don't believe it and nothing you've said in any way changes my mind!

You've spouted utter nonsense about a different drink completely l!

Give it up!

Is a single cup of coffee going to kill someone with an underlying heart defect? I agree it is extremely unlikely, but the amount of caffeine in a single drink can vary massively, so I don’t think it is completely outwith the realms of possibility.

@mutationseagull I don't believe it, how many more times can I say this to you!!

I don't vive a cup of caffeinated coffee will kill anyone!

I've said it numerous times!

I.don't,believe,it!!

But at 390 milligrams, the large Charged Lemonade has more caffeine than any size of Panera’s dark roast coffee, the complaint says — numbers that the nutrition facts on Panera’s website confirm. It also has guarana extract, another stimulant, as well as the equivalent of nearly 30 teaspoons of sugar
Guarana is a herbal extract which is known for being a stimulant. It also has caffeine in it and substances that mimic what caffeine does. It used to be used in herbal highs, people would use it to enhance their performance in the bedroom. The lemonade drink wasn’t just full of caffeine but other stimulants too. You can not use it as an example of someone dying from drinking coffee.

As I have said twice now, I was mistaken that the deaths were a result of lemonade. and not coffee. I still
believe that is an immaterial factor. The point is that the Panera case highlighted the dangers of serving drinks high in caffeine to people who should not be consuming them.

This. Exactly.

No, as with anything the dose makes the poison. The vast majority of people can handle some amount of caffeine. Some people have a much lower tolerance but I don’t think anybody is going to be adversely affected by small amounts like that found in decaffeinated coffee, or chocolate etc. I don’t believe that the lemonade contained “herbal highs” beyond the plant based ingredients that provided the caffeine content.

@mutationseagull I'm not denying they should've got decaf, the same as if I ask for semi skimmed milk and get served full cream,

I'm calling bullshit at people (plural) dying because of a cup of caffeinated coffee in a restaurant.

HTH,

It contains a very small amount of caffeine, which is generally safe, even for people with heart conditions. Anybody requesting decaf has a reasonable expectation that they are not going to be served a drink that is high in caffeine. With the lemonade it was not adequately signposted as being high in caffeine and/or serving staff were unaware, which is the crux of the wrongful death lawsuits.

Decaf contains caffeine. Are you saying 5mg of caffeine would kill someone because caffeine is caffeine and the varying amounts don’t make any difference or indeed that fact the Lemonade are also contained herbal highs?

@mutationseagull they asked for decaf..... which contains caffeine

Caffeine is caffeine whether it is in lemonade or coffee. This entire thread is about the OP being served caffeine when they asked for no caffeine. I posted the article to illustrate the dangers of people with certain conditions inadvertently consuming caffeine.

If isn’t imaginary coffee. It is comparing the lemonade with the caffeine content of standard iced coffee drinks from Starbucks. All of this info is available on the Panera and Starbucks websites.

If you're addressing someone specifically, you'd be best either quoting the post or using the @?

Assuming you're directing this comment at me, you've found one random thing on the internet an used it as leverage for your argument about coffee, when you were mistaken as it's lemonade! It's just nonsense really.

In what way do you think I am confused?
An independent food health watchdog reported that the caffeine content of the lemonade when diluted with ice was on a par with Starbucks iced coffee.

It's that article about the lemonade or the imaginary coffee?

I think you're very very confused!

No one is agreeing with you!

Give up.

It seems like there was some confusion in the initial articles over the caffeine content with the 390mg figure applying to the drink without ice dilution. The figures in the second article account for ice dilution.

Jesus. You are hard work. Neither of those even have anywhere the amount of coffee in them either! 😂 Sorry. I know it’s hard to be wrong. I have expended enough energy trying to explain the difference. I’m sorry it’s too tricky for you to grasp,

That comment was based on other articles such as this one that compare the caffeine content of the lemonade drink to standard coffees such as those sold at Starbucks.

“With ice, a “regular” size of a Panera Charged drink has nearly as much caffeine as a grande (16 oz.) Starbucks iced coffee, which has 185 milligrams of caffeine. A “large” Charged drink is in the same ballpark as a venti (24 oz.) Starbucks iced coffee, which has 265 mg of caffeine.”

Did you read your own article?
‘But at 390 milligrams, the large Charged Lemonade has more caffeine than any size of Panera’s dark roast coffee’
Regular Coffee contains an average of 95mg per cup…so over three times the amount, so no, it does not compare at all! 🙄

As I previously said, the lemonade contained the same amount of caffeine as many coffees do.

It’s not immaterial if you have a massive amount more caffeine in one drink than the other! Surely you can understand this? It’s just not the same. Sorry but I think there is something wrong with you comprehension if you can’t understand this?

@mutationseagull for someone who made a mistake of a cup coffee and a super charged lemonade, you'll excuse me for not taking you seriously?