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To think this is scandalous yet in plain sight because the patriarchy has no shame

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Webjisroommate · 15/07/2024 19:46

A year ago I separated from my DD’s father and she was in the middle of her first year of nursery. He paid the cms amount every month, without fail. This was 360 a month, even though I was left to pay over 1,300 on nursery fees alone. Obviously the situation has now changed slightly with the hours but his 360 contribution is quite literally nowhere near half her costs. I have spoken about this with other mum friends and have learned that 360 is actually pretty fortunate! Some women are being paid less than 200 and others have to chase cms when their ex is self employed. I was not aware of any of this before having Dd.

My career is now hugely clipped as I am doing 95% of childcare while ex sees her a day a week… the day I use mostly to clean and get the house in order to start the week again. And yes, I suggested 50/50, he didn’t want that.

I honestly feel like this is a huge joke player on women in plain sight while nothing is actually done about it?! I also can’t fathom how HMRC can chase tax from the self employed but Cms can’t chase these men to pay for their children. It’s a disgrace. Why is this allowed to happen?!

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WednesdysChild · 15/07/2024 20:17

It’s disgusting. I completely agree that if govt wanted to, it could give CMS stronger powers to investigate real earnings/wealth and force men to pay up when they abandon their families

Webjisroommate · 15/07/2024 20:16

Ws2210 · 15/07/2024 19:51

It disgusts me how the DWP terrorise disabled people...yet do absolutely nothing to chase CMS

@Ws2210 this is so true!!!!

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coxesorangepippin · 15/07/2024 20:14

Really, tiny yellow?

Oh well that excuses everything then

Sounds like the patriarchy talking, again

Webjisroommate · 15/07/2024 20:06

TinyYellow · 15/07/2024 19:50

Because on the whole, women want to be primary carers for their children.

@TinyYellow that doesn’t mean they should also pay more

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RishiIsACuntWaffle · 15/07/2024 19:56

Are you getting tax free childcare?

SaxaSoLow · 15/07/2024 19:54

Yes I agree but there was a thread on here recently where a woman in the same position was told to be grateful and that working is a life choice ! 😮

newlyblended · 15/07/2024 19:54

I had 3 children, in a committed marriage, after we bought a house etc. Not "willynilly". Separated in 2014 and bar a year when he claimed benefits and i got £28 a month, ive not received a penny from his actual earnings, and he hasnt had any contact. I work every hour i can to make sure they have a good life, with holidays and hobbies etc. He got off scott free.

The system is disgusting.

Summerhillsquare · 15/07/2024 19:52

Patriarchy - men have the power to change it and many of them have fucked off so won't punish other men. Also the squeaky wheel gets the oil, and women are too bloody busy to make a noise about it.

Ws2210 · 15/07/2024 19:51

It disgusts me how the DWP terrorise disabled people...yet do absolutely nothing to chase CMS

OceanStorm · 15/07/2024 19:50

Yes and no.

Yes men should pay, however there needs to be a deterrent to stop people having children with whoever Willy nilly

TinyYellow · 15/07/2024 19:50

Because on the whole, women want to be primary carers for their children.

CuriousGeorge80 · 15/07/2024 19:50

Totally agree OP, it’s an absolutely disgrace.

Cinocino · 15/07/2024 19:49

While I agree with you that it’s ridiculous what men legally are on the hook to pay for, and I really feel for anyone with a shitty enough ex who refuses to be reasonable and contribute an actual fair amount. But at the same time I can’t see how a mechanism for childcare payment could really be set up fairly. The ex would need to have a say in the facility and it all gets a bit messy.

coxesorangepippin · 15/07/2024 19:48

Yes, it's disgraceful and is discussed often on here

How are men allowed to get away with it? And how do they have the moral conscience to let it happen??