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To NOT support England ???

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Shaketherombooga · 15/07/2024 11:49

I’m not English. I have lived in England for a very long time. I do not support the England football team, I frequently support their opposition!

Colleague has taken the England loss hard, and said ‘ I bet you’re glad they lost’ - I replied that I was essentially a neutral but thought Spain deserved the win.

Hes gone off in a big old rant about how if I live here I should be supporting England teams etc.
I think he should have a wee lie down and chill out!

YABU - you SHOULD support the team of a country you’ve made a life in - even if you are from a former colony of that country

YANBU - of course you don’t have to support a national team that’s not yours

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Rainbowsponge · 15/07/2024 21:12

DanielGault · 15/07/2024 20:53

And?

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So it’s easy to say something is your best sport if there’s zero opposition lol

GreyBlackLove · 15/07/2024 21:12

Goldenbear · 15/07/2024 21:05

But we don’t know their nationality do we or has it been revealed now!

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She responded to someone who called her scottish with a nope earlier in the thread, and referred to "the Scots" and queried a poster who suggested she move to Scotland.

Unless she's lied outright with her response it's clear she isn't Scottish.

DanielGault · 15/07/2024 21:12

Rizzola95 · 15/07/2024 21:07

"Oh, thanks. I was waiting for your permission. In case it has escaped your attention, I disagree with you. So I don't need persuading. You don't need to 'give up'. You can just go away."

I understand you're trying to wind people up @DanielGault but it's getting boring and it's not coming across as funny, you're just sounding like you can't follow a conversation.
We've established (more than once?) that you don't disagree with me because you haven't referenced anything I've said to either agree or disagree to. And no, you don't need anyone's permission..the very point being made 🥴. Nobody is expecting you to support one team or another.

Grand so. You win. There there.

Clarabell77 · 15/07/2024 21:12

NinaPersson · 15/07/2024 21:06

Sorry, assumption based on what I’ve seen is the Scottish attitude towards the English team.

I’ll take our kids on the final, was very proud of the young team

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I’ll remind you how we did, we never got out of the group stages, never have. Sometimes we haven’t even got into the competition, but we’ve won just as many tournaments as England in the last 58 years and at least our reputation is not in tatters - quite the opposite. For a country 10 times smaller most of us are happy with that.

Rainbowsponge · 15/07/2024 21:12

Clarabell77 · 15/07/2024 21:07

I’m Scottish. I don’t know a single person who supports England. Even a couple of family members who have married English people don’t want them to win.

However, there is a very small section of fans of one particular football club who align themselves with England, even over their own country. They also align themselves with Israel, orange walks and right-wing fascism. If your support for England is a result of you being part of that small section then you have absolutely no place calling anyone a bigot.

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But isn’t your first paragraph bigotry?

HowIrresponsible · 15/07/2024 21:11

Clarabell77 · 15/07/2024 21:07

I’m Scottish. I don’t know a single person who supports England. Even a couple of family members who have married English people don’t want them to win.

However, there is a very small section of fans of one particular football club who align themselves with England, even over their own country. They also align themselves with Israel, orange walks and right-wing fascism. If your support for England is a result of you being part of that small section then you have absolutely no place calling anyone a bigot.

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Supporting Israel is bigoted ?

Wow. Must be the only country on earth who isnt allowed to defend itself.

Rizzola95 · 15/07/2024 21:07

"Oh, thanks. I was waiting for your permission. In case it has escaped your attention, I disagree with you. So I don't need persuading. You don't need to 'give up'. You can just go away."

I understand you're trying to wind people up @DanielGault but it's getting boring and it's not coming across as funny, you're just sounding like you can't follow a conversation.
We've established (more than once?) that you don't disagree with me because you haven't referenced anything I've said to either agree or disagree to. And no, you don't need anyone's permission..the very point being made 🥴. Nobody is expecting you to support one team or another.

Clarabell77 · 15/07/2024 21:07

Countymayo · 15/07/2024 20:59

I’m Scottish. Your ‘anyone but England’ disgusts me and so many other Scots. If I’m being generous it marks you out to me as narrow minded and bigoted. There are so many vile racists in Scotland that think this sort of attitude is ‘just banter’. Pathetic.

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I’m Scottish. I don’t know a single person who supports England. Even a couple of family members who have married English people don’t want them to win.

However, there is a very small section of fans of one particular football club who align themselves with England, even over their own country. They also align themselves with Israel, orange walks and right-wing fascism. If your support for England is a result of you being part of that small section then you have absolutely no place calling anyone a bigot.

NinaPersson · 15/07/2024 21:06

GreyBlackLove · 15/07/2024 21:03

The OP isn't scottish, so what's your point?

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Sorry, assumption based on what I’ve seen is the Scottish attitude towards the English team.

I’ll take our kids on the final, was very proud of the young team

Goldenbear · 15/07/2024 21:05

GreyBlackLove · 15/07/2024 21:03

The OP isn't scottish, so what's your point?

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But we don’t know their nationality do we or has it been revealed now!

HowIrresponsible · 15/07/2024 21:04

Countymayo · 15/07/2024 20:59

I’m Scottish. Your ‘anyone but England’ disgusts me and so many other Scots. If I’m being generous it marks you out to me as narrow minded and bigoted. There are so many vile racists in Scotland that think this sort of attitude is ‘just banter’. Pathetic.

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It's sad. I see Scottish people as my fellow countrymen. We're all from the UK. Also my dearly and recently departed mum was Scottish and so I have a soft spot for Scotland. It was her home and part of my heritage.

I'd be delighted if Scotland made the final id England hadnt and I'd support them. It's a shame we can't all get along.

GreyBlackLove · 15/07/2024 21:03

NinaPersson · 15/07/2024 21:02

Of course you don’t have to support them. However I know lots of English people who were cheering on and hoping the Scottish team would get through.

Edited to add: I was cheering on the Scotland team but now think why did I do that seeing how much some Scottish people wanted England beat.

Remind me again, what is the best result the Scots have had in the euros?

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The OP isn't scottish, so what's your point?

NinaPersson · 15/07/2024 21:02

Of course you don’t have to support them. However I know lots of English people who were cheering on and hoping the Scottish team would get through.

Edited to add: I was cheering on the Scotland team but now think why did I do that seeing how much some Scottish people wanted England beat.

Remind me again, what is the best result the Scots have had in the euros?

Countymayo · 15/07/2024 20:59

Shaketherombooga · 15/07/2024 20:39

‘English people are not indignant that someone might not support their team. I mean, come on.’

Oh yes they are! Just read through the posts - still it’s heartening than only 30% have voted that you SHOULD have to support England if you live here 😅
Maybe Reform could add that to their mad manifesto for the next election, unless they’re planning on chucking all of us Johnny Foreigners out anyway 😀

I’m Scottish. Your ‘anyone but England’ disgusts me and so many other Scots. If I’m being generous it marks you out to me as narrow minded and bigoted. There are so many vile racists in Scotland that think this sort of attitude is ‘just banter’. Pathetic.

Goldenbear · 15/07/2024 20:59

Gorgonemilezola · 15/07/2024 20:58

The US has the World Series, so why not?

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That’s true, a bit like baseball?

Gorgonemilezola · 15/07/2024 20:58

Rainbowsponge · 15/07/2024 20:49

But you’re not going to have a hurling world cup are you?

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The US has the World Series, so why not?

Gorgonemilezola · 15/07/2024 20:57

#TeamDave
Poor bloke has a lot to put up with.

Goldenbear · 15/07/2024 20:56

lolly792 · 15/07/2024 15:11

.... if any of this is true that is!

Exactly

Buddysbunda · 15/07/2024 20:55

Goldenbear · 15/07/2024 20:44

On social media but that is literally almost the whole point of social media these days! Equally. dont be disingenuous, the100s of posts are not indignation though are they, many of them are pointing out that English people don’t give a shit as many of us don’t think along diversity lines as simply the Irish and the English, the English makeup is so diverse that it would ludicrous to think like that in 2024, this is why many are pointing out that the OP is wrong and it is more likely a personality clash. Equally, many posts have been asking what former colony the OP comes from as they genuinely believe the average person from England cares about that. You may feel it is a certain way as you are living in Ireland but I just don’t think it features on the average English person’s radar.

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That's perfect then. Other countries will enjoy taking the piss, England don't care and nobody gets hurt 🤷🏻‍♀️

DanielGault · 15/07/2024 20:53

Rainbowsponge · 15/07/2024 20:49

But you’re not going to have a hurling world cup are you?

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And?

K37529 · 15/07/2024 20:53

I don’t support England because they don’t support their own team. Look at all the hate those two boys got for missing the penalties at the last euros against Italy. Made it to the finals which is a great achievement in itself, but still so much hate from their own people.

DanielGault · 15/07/2024 20:50

Rainbowsponge · 15/07/2024 20:21

I know 😂😂😂 they’re such whingers when you use their own tactics on them!

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I have no idea who they are. Or what their tactics might be. I just disagree with you.

WildLemur · 15/07/2024 20:49

x2boys · 15/07/2024 19:26

Well that doesn't make sense as any team that plays against Wales is a rival surely ?

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Can I take it you don't generally have an interest in sports?

Rainbowsponge · 15/07/2024 20:49

Liv999 · 15/07/2024 20:47

You'd be wrong, Hurling and Gaelic football are our 'main' sports

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But you’re not going to have a hurling world cup are you?

Mintchocco · 15/07/2024 20:48

Not unreasonable not to support England, unreasonable to start a goady thread disguised as being about supporting the football team

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