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To NOT support England ???

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Shaketherombooga · 15/07/2024 11:49

I’m not English. I have lived in England for a very long time. I do not support the England football team, I frequently support their opposition!

Colleague has taken the England loss hard, and said ‘ I bet you’re glad they lost’ - I replied that I was essentially a neutral but thought Spain deserved the win.

Hes gone off in a big old rant about how if I live here I should be supporting England teams etc.
I think he should have a wee lie down and chill out!

YABU - you SHOULD support the team of a country you’ve made a life in - even if you are from a former colony of that country

YANBU - of course you don’t have to support a national team that’s not yours

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DanielGault · 15/07/2024 22:05

Rizzola95 · 15/07/2024 22:01

"dislike for the triumphalist nature of England fans"

Hold the front pages!
"Fans cheering on their team and hyping eachother up" shocker!!! 😆

I was talking about the Media earlier and made a point of saying it wasn't the fans or the team.

WithACatLikeTread · 15/07/2024 22:05

DanielGault · 15/07/2024 22:03

I'm not seeing any banter here.

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Neither am I. That is the point.

Rizzola95 · 15/07/2024 22:04

@DanielGault if it's not deliberate after the number of times it's been explained then I don't know what to say 😅

WithACatLikeTread · 15/07/2024 22:04

Clarabell77 · 15/07/2024 22:02

I’ve read most of the posts on the thread and know exactly what I’ve posted. What parts do you think seem like more than dislike?

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Maybe you are so full of bile you struggle to differentiate between the two?

Clarabell77 · 15/07/2024 22:03

Rizzola95 · 15/07/2024 22:01

"dislike for the triumphalist nature of England fans"

Hold the front pages!
"Fans cheering on their team and hyping eachother up" shocker!!! 😆

Good one, but that’s not triumphalism.

DanielGault · 15/07/2024 22:03

WithACatLikeTread · 15/07/2024 22:02

I haven't decided. I am a bit confused?? Maybe that poster is right and there has been a mix up. You can't decide what is hate and what is banter when you aren't the target of it.

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I'm not seeing any banter here.

WithACatLikeTread · 15/07/2024 22:02

DanielGault · 15/07/2024 21:58

You're just totally making it up though. You have decided I dislike and hate. Which is not true. I think your media tend to big you up too much.

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I haven't decided. I am a bit confused?? Maybe that poster is right and there has been a mix up. You can't decide what is hate and what is banter when you aren't the target of it.

Clarabell77 · 15/07/2024 22:02

WithACatLikeTread · 15/07/2024 21:59

Read back. It comes across as more than dislike.

Most England fans were realistic about our chances but you obviously think we believe all the hype.

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I’ve read most of the posts on the thread and know exactly what I’ve posted. What parts do you think seem like more than dislike?

Rizzola95 · 15/07/2024 22:01

"dislike for the triumphalist nature of England fans"

Hold the front pages!
"Fans cheering on their team and hyping eachother up" shocker!!! 😆

DanielGault · 15/07/2024 22:01

Rizzola95 · 15/07/2024 21:59

Yes @Ploughlifht and I think there are a couple on here. The posting style, the deliberate misconstruing and the twisting of words.. I mean either that or this is a depressingly nasty place.

There is no 'style', nor deliberate misconstruing of anything. Report it/me by all means though if you're that concerned.

Clarabell77 · 15/07/2024 22:00

WithACatLikeTread · 15/07/2024 21:57

Conveniently. The Nationalist. Luckily many Scots have been rather embarrassed by it.

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It’s not convenient, I can’t find what you’re talking about. You’d have been quicker posting the link and making your point than replying and having me reply again ffs.

WithACatLikeTread · 15/07/2024 21:59

Clarabell77 · 15/07/2024 21:58

Yes really, you’re free to doubt it but I’m fairly certain.

No hatred though, just a bit of dislike for the triumphalist nature of England fans and media, and enjoy seeing them getting egg on their face, it’s really that simple.

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Read back. It comes across as more than dislike.

Most England fans were realistic about our chances but you obviously think we believe all the hype.

Rizzola95 · 15/07/2024 21:59

Yes @Ploughlifht and I think there are a couple on here. The posting style, the deliberate misconstruing and the twisting of words.. I mean either that or this is a depressingly nasty place.

Clarabell77 · 15/07/2024 21:58

WithACatLikeTread · 15/07/2024 21:49

The whole of Europe? Really? I doubt it. I quite like to support opponents of Man City being a Man Utd fan but the extent of your hatred is stupid. Get a grip.

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Yes really, you’re free to doubt it but I’m fairly certain.

No hatred though, just a bit of dislike for the triumphalist nature of England fans and media, and enjoy seeing them getting egg on their face, it’s really that simple.

WithACatLikeTread · 15/07/2024 21:58

GreyBlackLove · 15/07/2024 21:56

I'm pretty sure the poster has confused the (Irish) Nationalist with the (Scottish) National paper. And might have also confused the nationalities of who they're responding to.

Background context - the National paper posted a shit "joke" headline on Saturday, full of stereotypes and were forced to issue an apology after a number of complaints were made

Yeah that might be the case. I am talking about the Scottish one which conveniently forgets that many Brits actually the same way.

DanielGault · 15/07/2024 21:58

WithACatLikeTread · 15/07/2024 21:55

I think it is quite clearly dislike and hate. You can read it in that posters posts whereas some of the Irish commenting it has a different vibe which I have no issue with. I don't actually care if no one supports us from the home nations anyway. I wouldn't expect it.

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You're just totally making it up though. You have decided I dislike and hate. Which is not true. I think your media tend to big you up too much.

WithACatLikeTread · 15/07/2024 21:57

Clarabell77 · 15/07/2024 21:53

Can’t find anything, could you send the link
please?

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Conveniently. The Nationalist. Luckily many Scots have been rather embarrassed by it.

GreyBlackLove · 15/07/2024 21:56

I'm pretty sure the poster has confused the (Irish) Nationalist with the (Scottish) National paper. And might have also confused the nationalities of who they're responding to.

Background context - the National paper posted a shit "joke" headline on Saturday, full of stereotypes and were forced to issue an apology after a number of complaints were made

WithACatLikeTread · 15/07/2024 21:55

DanielGault · 15/07/2024 21:51

You're totally making stuff up there though. 'the extent of your hatred '. Sorry but no. Up for the other team does not in any way equate to hatred.

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I think it is quite clearly dislike and hate. You can read it in that posters posts whereas some of the Irish commenting it has a different vibe which I have no issue with. I don't actually care if no one supports us from the home nations anyway. I wouldn't expect it.

Bushmillsbabe · 15/07/2024 21:55

RedPony1 · 15/07/2024 12:09

This

My DP is Welsh, they didn't get through. He supported England all the way!

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Same, my husband is Irish but lived in England most of his life. If Ireland are playing England he will support Ireland, if England are playing anyone else then he will support them, as his wife and children are English (well the children are half Irish, but unless Ireland is playing thats not relevant to this particular debate)

Ploughlifht · 15/07/2024 21:55

Rizzola95 · 15/07/2024 21:53

"To be clear…We weren’t talking about who you support. As has been said multiple times on this thread, no one cares about you or anyone else not supporting England."

That poster knows this @Ploughlifht and is taking pleasure in winding people up and having them explain things to them over and over. They are twisting things deliberately..just like the OP has been.

Hmm I’ve just seen your post about sock puppetry…that would make sense

DanielGault · 15/07/2024 21:54

Rizzola95 · 15/07/2024 21:53

"To be clear…We weren’t talking about who you support. As has been said multiple times on this thread, no one cares about you or anyone else not supporting England."

That poster knows this @Ploughlifht and is taking pleasure in winding people up and having them explain things to them over and over. They are twisting things deliberately..just like the OP has been.

It's great that you now inhabit my mind, and can read my thoughts.

Rizzola95 · 15/07/2024 21:53

"To be clear…We weren’t talking about who you support. As has been said multiple times on this thread, no one cares about you or anyone else not supporting England."

That poster knows this @Ploughlifht and is taking pleasure in winding people up and having them explain things to them over and over. They are twisting things deliberately..just like the OP has been.

Clarabell77 · 15/07/2024 21:53

WithACatLikeTread · 15/07/2024 21:39

Of course it was. Google "The Nationalist" newspaper. There's banter and then there is hate. I think they crossed that line.

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Can’t find anything, could you send the link
please?

DanielGault · 15/07/2024 21:53

Ploughlifht · 15/07/2024 21:50

Read the post you responded to? We’re talking about the newspaper headlines and the general xenophobia towards the English. That is more than banter and you know it.
To be clear…We weren’t talking about who you support. As has been said multiple times on this thread, no one cares about you or anyone else not supporting England.

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Grand, whatever so. Poor put upon Brits, that victims of dreadful xenophobia. Right. What a load of absolute crap.