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To NOT support England ???

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Shaketherombooga · 15/07/2024 11:49

I’m not English. I have lived in England for a very long time. I do not support the England football team, I frequently support their opposition!

Colleague has taken the England loss hard, and said ‘ I bet you’re glad they lost’ - I replied that I was essentially a neutral but thought Spain deserved the win.

Hes gone off in a big old rant about how if I live here I should be supporting England teams etc.
I think he should have a wee lie down and chill out!

YABU - you SHOULD support the team of a country you’ve made a life in - even if you are from a former colony of that country

YANBU - of course you don’t have to support a national team that’s not yours

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IwillNOTplayfastandloosewithpublicfinances · 15/07/2024 22:59

All this is a non issue. It’s just kicking a ball - what a fuss.

lolly792 · 15/07/2024 22:52

@Liv999 they haven't decided yet!!

Liv999 · 15/07/2024 22:49

Is the OP definitely Irish though?

StickyStones · 15/07/2024 22:42

OP, I'm Irish and I find your attitude embarrassing.

You live in England, you're going to have to suck up the wall to wall coverage and the 'it's coming home' schtick.

As an Irish person you've been exposed to British media your whole life and of course it's going to get tedious. If we were constantly exposed to Spanish or French media they'd be no different to the way the English go on. I'm sure of it. Only difference is we don't speak the same language as the Spanish and French and also don't follow their media.

I can just imagine the imperious way you go on in work, you purposely needle your colleague which is very unpleasant. I'm sure they all think you're an eejit.

lolly792 · 15/07/2024 22:39

😜😜😜

Charlie2121 · 15/07/2024 22:38

Clarabell77 · 15/07/2024 22:20

I’ve explained why. To put it more simply, I find England football fans and English pundits/commentators/media to be over-confident, cocky, entitled and annoying, and that’s when they’re playing poorly, so they’d be insufferable if they won something.

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Having just got back home from Berlin I think I’m fairly well qualified to comment on this.

I simply don’t recognise the fan stereotype you describe, at least not among those who actually travel abroad and attend games. If anything the fans are pessimistic and the complete opposite of how you portray them.

malificent7 · 15/07/2024 22:36

I'm English and I thought Spain deserved to win...they were better.

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Shaketherombooga · 15/07/2024 22:35

All the other MNetters unemployed then? Is that how it works?? 😂😜

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lolly792 · 15/07/2024 22:34

Private company, VERY flexible working, allowed to chat shit all day on Mumsnet 🤣

Hobbitlover · 15/07/2024 22:31

Can not stand football, I'm a Scottish rugby girly. It's anyone but Ireland in our house🤣, but we always have good banter who ever the opposition are 🏉🏉🏉

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Shaketherombooga · 15/07/2024 22:30

Rizzola95 · 15/07/2024 21:33

"Likewise!"

Yes @DanielGault but I haven't claimed to be at work arguing with a "colleague" who was later sent home for pouting about a football match have I?

He wasn’t sent home, it was suggested a half day might benefit him because he was in a right state.
still he made it in I suppose, a couple of others didn’t.
Don’t worry, private company, flexible working, duvet days are a thing… no public services failed 😅

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WithACatLikeTread · 15/07/2024 22:23

Clarabell77 · 15/07/2024 22:14

You really are hurting aren’t you? 😂

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No. Keep salting those chips.

Rizzola95 · 15/07/2024 22:20

"It really feels like you're not engaging in good faith."

Reflecting your intentions onto someone else again?

@DanielGault I'm done with arguing with you, it's annoying and boring. I mean, I was done with you earlier but you kept tagging my posts that weren't actually addressed to you in the first place 🤔🤔🤔
Anyway, enjoy your evening 🧦 😉

Clarabell77 · 15/07/2024 22:20

Rainbowsponge · 15/07/2024 21:21

Because as you well know it’s not about ‘not wanting a team to win’, it’s about why.

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I’ve explained why. To put it more simply, I find England football fans and English pundits/commentators/media to be over-confident, cocky, entitled and annoying, and that’s when they’re playing poorly, so they’d be insufferable if they won something.

tennesseewhiskey1 · 15/07/2024 22:18

I am not English, i support another team (clearly the best team who got knocked out and im bitter) but if they get knocked out (which they did) - then i support england (which i did), my husband and children are English, i have two jerseys - they have the one. Ive been here over 20 years, so i love this country and i feel this is now my home.

Clarabell77 · 15/07/2024 22:14

WithACatLikeTread · 15/07/2024 22:04

Maybe you are so full of bile you struggle to differentiate between the two?

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You really are hurting aren’t you? 😂

DanielGault · 15/07/2024 22:14

Rizzola95 · 15/07/2024 22:13

"Just because you say something, and call it explaining, it doesn't make it true"

Yes it does, in my case earlier I was explaining a point that I had made and that you had misinterpreted.
So yes, I can explain the intention of my own words and that makes it true because I know what point I was making and that you misrepresented it.

See above.

Rizzola95 · 15/07/2024 22:13

"Just because you say something, and call it explaining, it doesn't make it true"

Yes it does, in my case earlier I was explaining a point that I had made and that you had misinterpreted.
So yes, I can explain the intention of my own words and that makes it true because I know what point I was making and that you misrepresented it.

DanielGault · 15/07/2024 22:11

Rizzola95 · 15/07/2024 22:08

"I was talking about the Media earlier and made a point of saying it wasn't the fans or the team"

Ok but I haven't said otherwise?

It really feels like you're not engaging in good faith.

Rizzola95 · 15/07/2024 22:08

"I was talking about the Media earlier and made a point of saying it wasn't the fans or the team"

Ok but I haven't said otherwise?

DanielGault · 15/07/2024 22:08

WithACatLikeTread · 15/07/2024 22:06

Clairabelle is making it about the fans though.

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Well there seems to be quite a bit of mud slinging on here tbh. I've no idea why.

WildLemur · 15/07/2024 22:07

Were I English, I don't think I'd want fans of neighboring nations rooting for us. Winning is more fun when you can lord it over others - it'd take a lot of the fun out if Scotish/Welsh supportrs (for example) responded with "Delighted for you! We were rooting for you the whole time!"

DanielGault · 15/07/2024 22:06

Rizzola95 · 15/07/2024 22:04

@DanielGault if it's not deliberate after the number of times it's been explained then I don't know what to say 😅

Just because you say something, and call it explaining, it doesn't make it true

WithACatLikeTread · 15/07/2024 22:06

DanielGault · 15/07/2024 22:05

I was talking about the Media earlier and made a point of saying it wasn't the fans or the team.

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Clairabelle is making it about the fans though.

Rizzola95 · 15/07/2024 22:05

No it's not @Clarabell77 that's the point.