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To NOT support England ???

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Shaketherombooga · 15/07/2024 11:49

I’m not English. I have lived in England for a very long time. I do not support the England football team, I frequently support their opposition!

Colleague has taken the England loss hard, and said ‘ I bet you’re glad they lost’ - I replied that I was essentially a neutral but thought Spain deserved the win.

Hes gone off in a big old rant about how if I live here I should be supporting England teams etc.
I think he should have a wee lie down and chill out!

YABU - you SHOULD support the team of a country you’ve made a life in - even if you are from a former colony of that country

YANBU - of course you don’t have to support a national team that’s not yours

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Shaketherombooga · 15/07/2024 12:07

Sarah2891 · 15/07/2024 12:03

You sound absolutely charming. Telling a poster to 'feck off' who only responded to you in a polite manner....

That clearly has come across as a bit much, it’s more of a ‘heck as like you would’ than any kind of actual swear.

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TheThingIsYeah · 15/07/2024 12:06

Shaketherombooga · 15/07/2024 12:05

‘I'm not English, but if they're playing any other team then I support England.’

That is big of you. Bit random though. I’d probably choose a team that won more TBH… Brazil, Germany maybe?
I mean if you are going to support a national team that’s not yours, make it a good one!

How boring would that be.

User79853257976 · 15/07/2024 12:06

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That’s true though - a lot of us do support the other home nations.

Heidi75 · 15/07/2024 12:06

OneTC · 15/07/2024 12:02

I'm not English, but if they're playing any other team then I support England. Most of my non English friends don't though. I find the "come on the other team" mentality to be a bit 6th form edge-lord and petty.

If I was visiting France and they were playing some other random country then I'd cheer on France.

Exactly this 'any team but England' vitriol is childish and pathetic. They are all just bitter they didn;t make it out of the group stages ;-)

Leah5678 · 15/07/2024 12:05

"I frequently support their opposition" why? You sound assy. It's one thing to not care about football or to think Spain deserved to win because they played well. But seeing as you've asked yeah I'd say you sound annoying. Why did you choose to move here and live here so long if you feel this way?

cupcaske123 · 15/07/2024 12:05

Shaketherombooga · 15/07/2024 12:00

He is RANCIDLY hungover to be fair. It’s a wonder he made it in. We are allowed duvet days here.

There you go

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Shaketherombooga · 15/07/2024 12:05

‘I'm not English, but if they're playing any other team then I support England.’

That is big of you. Bit random though. I’d probably choose a team that won more TBH… Brazil, Germany maybe?
I mean if you are going to support a national team that’s not yours, make it a good one!

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User79853257976 · 15/07/2024 12:04

It depends if you’re just not supporting them or hoping they will lose I suppose.

WaltzingWaters · 15/07/2024 12:04

Leftphalange100 · 15/07/2024 11:51

To be honest if I'd made a home in a country that I was happy and settled in, I'd support them. But that is up to you at the end of the day, its your choice. Different if they were playing against my home country but if not my home country I'd support them also as the country I live in.

I agree with this. It’s different if they were playing your home country, but in general to support the opposing team is a bit 🤨, but you can support who you like of course, though I wouldn’t make a show of it.

Last night Spain did genuinely deserve the win, but I of course still supported and wanted England to win, though not too upset that they didn’t as Spain played better throughout and England did amazingly to get this far.

Sarah2891 · 15/07/2024 12:03

You sound absolutely charming. Telling a poster to 'feck off' who only responded to you in a polite manner....

Bex5490 · 15/07/2024 12:03

DramaLlamaBangBang · 15/07/2024 12:01

If he's a work colleague, I'd threated him with HR or a word with your manager. It's inappropriate behaviour, bordering on harassment.

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I think this is a little extreme - how is it harassment?

Skinglow · 15/07/2024 12:02

Another Scottish whinger.

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Shaketherombooga · 15/07/2024 12:02

Willoo · 15/07/2024 12:00

I’ve lived in England over twenty years. My husband and son are English. I still don’t and never will, support England. Everyone at work knows this and we get along great. We have a lot of banter about it. I’m not back in work until Tuesday and I can’t wait.

If you’re looking for a Spanish shirt to wear I think the Scots already got them all, sorry!

By tomorrow some may have regained a sense of perspective and humor about it. Good luck!

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OneTC · 15/07/2024 12:02

I'm not English, but if they're playing any other team then I support England. Most of my non English friends don't though. I find the "come on the other team" mentality to be a bit 6th form edge-lord and petty.

If I was visiting France and they were playing some other random country then I'd cheer on France.

Midnightponderer · 15/07/2024 12:02

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You ok? You seem quite angry.

Bex5490 · 15/07/2024 12:02

You can support whoever you like! My family are from London but support Liverpool.

It’s just that those of us who do support England are a little hungover, sensitive and sad from last night’s events…your colleague will get over it!

DramaLlamaBangBang · 15/07/2024 12:01

Shaketherombooga · 15/07/2024 11:57

He’s now followed up with some blathering about this is why they lose because people like me don’t believe in them etc. 😅
I had no idea I held such power, to influence a national football team to play so badly…

I genuinely think he might have to go home early, the hangover has clearly sent the poor guy loopy…

If he's a work colleague, I'd threated him with HR or a word with your manager. It's inappropriate behaviour, bordering on harassment.

Willoo · 15/07/2024 12:00

I’ve lived in England over twenty years. My husband and son are English. I still don’t and never will, support England. Everyone at work knows this and we get along great. We have a lot of banter about it. I’m not back in work until Tuesday and I can’t wait.

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Shaketherombooga · 15/07/2024 12:00

He is RANCIDLY hungover to be fair. It’s a wonder he made it in. We are allowed duvet days here.

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DappledThings · 15/07/2024 11:59

I'm English and live in England and I don't support them. I don't not support them either, I'm by no means happy they lost but consensus seems to be Spain played better so fair enough they won.

OP's neutral response was entirely reasonable

Longma · 15/07/2024 11:59

I frequently support their opposition!

Why do you frequently support the opposition?
It is because 'it's not England' or because you have an affinity with the other team?

I suspect the answer could be in that partially, or how others perceive the way you support different oppositions.

cupcaske123 · 15/07/2024 11:58

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Spoken to all English people have you or are you going by generalisations? Many people would support the home nations if they got into a final. I imagine your colleague is a bit down and hungover. I would change the subject and get on with your day.

x2boys · 15/07/2024 11:57

It's over now
Why don't you join all the other miserable threads about football 🙄🙄

StrawberryMemories · 15/07/2024 11:57

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Shaketherombooga · 15/07/2024 11:57

He’s now followed up with some blathering about this is why they lose because people like me don’t believe in them etc. 😅
I had no idea I held such power, to influence a national football team to play so badly…

I genuinely think he might have to go home early, the hangover has clearly sent the poor guy loopy…

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