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To NOT support England ???

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Shaketherombooga · 15/07/2024 11:49

I’m not English. I have lived in England for a very long time. I do not support the England football team, I frequently support their opposition!

Colleague has taken the England loss hard, and said ‘ I bet you’re glad they lost’ - I replied that I was essentially a neutral but thought Spain deserved the win.

Hes gone off in a big old rant about how if I live here I should be supporting England teams etc.
I think he should have a wee lie down and chill out!

YABU - you SHOULD support the team of a country you’ve made a life in - even if you are from a former colony of that country

YANBU - of course you don’t have to support a national team that’s not yours

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lolly792 · 16/07/2024 15:47

To be fair we don't know what nationality the OP is as they're being very cagey about it!

GreyBlackLove · 16/07/2024 15:21

Wotcher · 16/07/2024 13:30

So you’re Scottish then 🥱

No obligation to support England, but the childish bitterness of the Scots is beyond boring, and really must waste a considerable amount of energy. I’d love to know why so many live in England when apparently they hate it so much 🙄

The OP isn't scottish. She's said that directly and indirectly.

At some point this fixation on Scotland starts to become a self fulfilling prophecy when your go to assumption is this

lolly792 · 16/07/2024 14:43

I simply don't see this 'triumphalist' bragging English mentality that so many here seem to think is so pervasive.

Me neither, and that's clearly disappointing to some!

Acapulco12 · 16/07/2024 14:36

IcedPurple · 16/07/2024 14:11

Every English football fan I know was pleasantly surprised England made it to the final, were well aware that Spain were the favourites and agreed that they lost to a superior side.

I simply don't see this 'triumphalist' bragging English mentality that so many here seem to think is so pervasive.

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I agree, and without wanting to sound like I’m giving Southgate credit for everything, I think he deserves some credit for changing our national mentality of football away from arrogance and triumphalism and towards humility and respect.

IcedPurple · 16/07/2024 14:11

malificent7 · 15/07/2024 22:36

I'm English and I thought Spain deserved to win...they were better.

Every English football fan I know was pleasantly surprised England made it to the final, were well aware that Spain were the favourites and agreed that they lost to a superior side.

I simply don't see this 'triumphalist' bragging English mentality that so many here seem to think is so pervasive.

TheEyesOfLucyJordon · 16/07/2024 14:09

Shaketherombooga · 16/07/2024 09:34

Dave update - he’s just messaged an apology for being ‘over the top’ yesterday apparently it has been a long day and a late night etc.
and I am free to support any team I choose… cheers Davy!

LJ update: I feel sorry for Dave.

IcedPurple · 16/07/2024 14:04

Clarabell77 · 15/07/2024 21:58

Yes really, you’re free to doubt it but I’m fairly certain.

No hatred though, just a bit of dislike for the triumphalist nature of England fans and media, and enjoy seeing them getting egg on their face, it’s really that simple.

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I doubt 'Europe' is anywhere near as fixated on England and the English as certain folks here are.

And I can't see how getting to the final and losing by one goal to a clearly better side is 'having egg on their face'. They did better than every other team except for the victors.

x2boys · 16/07/2024 13:40

Shaketherombooga · 16/07/2024 12:21

No, because I wasn’t in any way whatsoever other than saying that I was ‘basically a neutral’ for the England Spain game. Read the original post.

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I don't think you understand what neutral means

Adviceneeeeded · 16/07/2024 13:31

People go crazy over football. Its very weird

Wotcher · 16/07/2024 13:30

So you’re Scottish then 🥱

No obligation to support England, but the childish bitterness of the Scots is beyond boring, and really must waste a considerable amount of energy. I’d love to know why so many live in England when apparently they hate it so much 🙄

Acapulco12 · 16/07/2024 13:25

lolly792 · 16/07/2024 13:25

Imagine the thread when Gareth gets a knighthood? Grin

😂😂😂

lolly792 · 16/07/2024 13:25

Imagine the thread when Gareth gets a knighthood? Grin

Ploughlifht · 16/07/2024 13:04

Shaketherombooga · 16/07/2024 12:47

Mmm, always good to be hopefully. I mean, 60 years at some point surely the men’s team have got to win summat???

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Oh bless you OP, still so desperate for that reaction. It just isn’t working out for you is it?

lolly792 · 16/07/2024 12:53

@Saltedbutter never mind Davy and the work colleagues (who are no doubt imaginary) .... imagine the OP's poor family!!

Saltedbutter · 16/07/2024 12:50

Shaketherombooga · 16/07/2024 12:47

Mmm, always good to be hopefully. I mean, 60 years at some point surely the men’s team have got to win summat???

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Look at how antagonistic you are! Christ. I can guarantee ‘Davy’ and the team are rolling their eyes.

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Shaketherombooga · 16/07/2024 12:47

Mintchocco · 16/07/2024 12:32

condolences, England might actually win next, manager dependent. This must be tough news for you

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Mmm, always good to be hopefully. I mean, 60 years at some point surely the men’s team have got to win summat???

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Acapulco12 · 16/07/2024 12:39

Shaketherombooga · 16/07/2024 12:22

The FA obvs decided being constant runner up isn’t good enough. The only way to change the outcome is to change the method or manager.

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Thanks for this. Despite all of that, it’s without a doubt that GS has been the best England manager since Alf Ramsey (whose team won the 1966 World Cup). He has been outstanding.

Rainbowsponge · 16/07/2024 12:34

Shaketherombooga · 16/07/2024 12:22

The FA obvs decided being constant runner up isn’t good enough. The only way to change the outcome is to change the method or manager.

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What about countries who did even make the quarter finals? I think we should just dismantle them completely.

Mintchocco · 16/07/2024 12:32

Shaketherombooga · 16/07/2024 12:22

The FA obvs decided being constant runner up isn’t good enough. The only way to change the outcome is to change the method or manager.

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condolences, England might actually win next, manager dependent. This must be tough news for you

Saltedbutter · 16/07/2024 12:26

Shaketherombooga · 16/07/2024 12:21

No, because I wasn’t in any way whatsoever other than saying that I was ‘basically a neutral’ for the England Spain game. Read the original post.

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I’ve read your original post - and your subsequent ones. I don’t believe for a second that you implied you were neutral. Your posts on this thread show you to be quite argumentative and the type that would get a kick out of causing an issue whilst playing some victim complex.

lolly792 · 16/07/2024 12:26

No shit!

With such amazing insights and Sunday football experience (not to mention VERY flexible working hours) you should be in the running for the job.

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Shaketherombooga · 16/07/2024 12:22

Acapulco12 · 16/07/2024 11:37

I hope he’s proud of the fantastic work he has done. He has rebuilt the England team and achieved more consistently strong results than any other previous England manager. Well done Gareth. You’ll be missed 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

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The FA obvs decided being constant runner up isn’t good enough. The only way to change the outcome is to change the method or manager.

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Shaketherombooga · 16/07/2024 12:21

Saltedbutter · 16/07/2024 09:50

Will you be offering an apology for purposely being antagonistic and lacking of any tact?

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No, because I wasn’t in any way whatsoever other than saying that I was ‘basically a neutral’ for the England Spain game. Read the original post.

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lolly792 · 16/07/2024 11:53

@Acapulco12 he had a tough gig after the disasters of previous managers. Good bloke, no surprise at all that he's resigned, I bet he's looking forward to a rest from it!

TheOnionEyes · 16/07/2024 11:51

May I ask if there's something specific that you don't like about the English, which makes you support the opposition teams?