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To NOT support England ???

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Shaketherombooga · 15/07/2024 11:49

I’m not English. I have lived in England for a very long time. I do not support the England football team, I frequently support their opposition!

Colleague has taken the England loss hard, and said ‘ I bet you’re glad they lost’ - I replied that I was essentially a neutral but thought Spain deserved the win.

Hes gone off in a big old rant about how if I live here I should be supporting England teams etc.
I think he should have a wee lie down and chill out!

YABU - you SHOULD support the team of a country you’ve made a life in - even if you are from a former colony of that country

YANBU - of course you don’t have to support a national team that’s not yours

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Shaketherombooga · 15/07/2024 12:32

JustSaltPlease · 15/07/2024 12:28

I'm a welsh gal and when it comes to rugby I will support any team but england. It's just been bred into me.

That said wales didn't make it through so I'd hoped england would win. I watched their games and cheered them on.

Each to their own isn't it.

This thread is just goady and the OP is clearly just trying to wind up the English this morning.

I support Wales in rugby! Unless their against mine team, obvs… but a wales rugby fans, we’ll all rugby fans really, are much better winners and losers…

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blacksocks33 · 15/07/2024 12:32

To be honest I couldn't care less what team anyone supports so you just do you and enjoy!

No sure your responses are coming off all the well though OP. As others have stated, you've posted on AIBU... which is a page for asking for opinions and then one of your first responses is telling someone, who didn't agree with you, to "feck off" and then continued to be quite hostile since and generalising all English people 🤷🏼‍♀️. (Ps, I'm English and not as you described!!).

Like I said, just you do you, the majority of people really don't care. If your college is bothering you the just ignore him. That's what I tell my 7 and 4 year old to do 👍🏼😊

AzureAnt · 15/07/2024 12:31

I'll probably get my arse flamed for saying this but isn't it about time people got over the atrocities that happened half a millennium ago? It's wasn't just Britain and certainly not just England, yet on and on they go, bleating the same old shite as if we in the here and now, are oppressing all you whinging sops.
And before anyone jumps in, The British were at the forefront of banning the slave trade, as well you all know!!

Cooper77 · 15/07/2024 12:30

Seems a bit weird that you "frequently support the opposition." That suggests to me that you dislike England or the English. Not liking football and not caring who wins is different. I'm not a football fan either – in fact I hate sport full stop – but I don't want England to lose, which is basically what you're saying. If I moved to another country, and stayed there for a long time, it would be because I'd developed an affection for the place and its people.

mugboat · 15/07/2024 12:30

I'm guessing you're Irish based on your use of the word "feck". I totally wouldn't assume or expect an Irish person to support England.

Personally, if I'm watching a match and my own country is not playing, I always support the underdog. Supporting the odds on favourite is very boring.

As I am English, this means I'm always supporting the underdog, regardless of who's playing.

Iloveshoes123 · 15/07/2024 12:30

Longma · 15/07/2024 11:59

I frequently support their opposition!

Why do you frequently support the opposition?
It is because 'it's not England' or because you have an affinity with the other team?

I suspect the answer could be in that partially, or how others perceive the way you support different oppositions.

I think this is what it comes down to. I'm not English but would support them unless they were playing my home country.
If you are supporting 'anyone but England' whilst living here I can see why it would piss people off although I suspect most people wouldn't care.

LyndzB · 15/07/2024 12:29

Shaketherombooga · 15/07/2024 12:09

Are you telling me that all those ex-pats from England living in Spain were cheering for Spain? Not sure I believe that.

No, because they aren't Spanish. I'm sure if it were Spain vs Germany, they'd support Spain, what with it being the country they live in. That's surely not difficult to understand?

SpoonerChasm · 15/07/2024 12:29

I'm guessing your Irish living in England, there's still a shocking amount of racism towards Irish people in England, 'paddy' jokes etc. Supporting the opposition in a football game is hardly comparable. Your colleague needs to get a grip.

Feck isn't really a swear word in Ireland, where there's a more relaxed attitude to such things.

VolvoFan · 15/07/2024 12:29

Why would you support a kickyball team that doesn't represent your nation? If you're Scottish, Irish or Welsh, you still wouldn't support England.

What's all the fuss about?

JustSaltPlease · 15/07/2024 12:28

I'm a welsh gal and when it comes to rugby I will support any team but england. It's just been bred into me.

That said wales didn't make it through so I'd hoped england would win. I watched their games and cheered them on.

Each to their own isn't it.

This thread is just goady and the OP is clearly just trying to wind up the English this morning.

Shaketherombooga · 15/07/2024 12:28

TBH I’m most happy about not having to hear the phrase ‘it’s coming home’ for a while!!

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Goldenbear · 15/07/2024 12:27

Shaketherombooga · 15/07/2024 12:23

‘I could be wrong but this absolutely stinks of Scottish/Irish/Welsh supporting the other team just because it's 'not England'. ’

Indeed, but given the history of England and Ireland/Scotland in particular do you blame them!??

Why don’t you say which ‘former colony’ you are from?

Shaketherombooga · 15/07/2024 12:27

Goldenbear · 15/07/2024 12:22

I’m confused as in your opening post you asked if you were not being unreasonable for not supporting England as the country you come from was a former colony of England but I thought Britain were the colonialists not England? Why won’t you say which country ‘England’ colonised that you are from?

Why? What difference would that make?

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Goldenbear · 15/07/2024 12:27

Are you Scottish?

inamarina · 15/07/2024 12:26

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Why do you start an AIBU and then tell people to fuck off because they disagree with you?

andthat · 15/07/2024 12:26

@Shaketherombooga YABU for thinking you ‘should’ do anything.

Support who you like for any reason you like!

OneTC · 15/07/2024 12:24

Shaketherombooga · 15/07/2024 12:05

‘I'm not English, but if they're playing any other team then I support England.’

That is big of you. Bit random though. I’d probably choose a team that won more TBH… Brazil, Germany maybe?
I mean if you are going to support a national team that’s not yours, make it a good one!

The league club I support isn't even in the premiership, it's not about glory hunting they're the team that's local to where I made my home in London.

I support England because I live here and it's pretty good to me and it just feels kinda polite and community minded. I wouldn't support them against my home team.

I don't really care what other people do, like I said most of my friends feel differently and light-heartedly give me grief for being too English

x2boys · 15/07/2024 12:23

Shaketherombooga · 15/07/2024 12:16

Mate, I both play football and coach football. And I’d put my house on Brazil showing up any day of the week and playing more creative, interesting football than this current national English men’s team.
They weren’t very good. Spain were much, much better. There’s no a commentator in the world who watched that game and thought England should have won.

It's obvious to everyone Spain were by far the better players, but England were not thrashed by them they did well to get a 2:1 finish
But why be obnoxious about it?

pointlessopportunity · 15/07/2024 12:23

Dave sounds like a pillock ..:.I hate blokes who mope at work because of football results. We have one at our place

It was fun getting to the final and watching it in the pub

Bad luck...never mind. Life goes on

Shaketherombooga · 15/07/2024 12:23

‘I could be wrong but this absolutely stinks of Scottish/Irish/Welsh supporting the other team just because it's 'not England'. ’

Indeed, but given the history of England and Ireland/Scotland in particular do you blame them!??

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cupcaske123 · 15/07/2024 12:23

zoemum2006 · 15/07/2024 12:21

You don’t need to support England but it’s always worth being considerate of other people’s feelings.

You’re coming across as rude and deliberately provocative.

That's always the point.

Skinglow · 15/07/2024 12:22

Shaketherombooga · 15/07/2024 12:20

Me too. And I do.

So you were born in Spain?

Goldenbear · 15/07/2024 12:22

Shaketherombooga · 15/07/2024 12:16

Mate, I both play football and coach football. And I’d put my house on Brazil showing up any day of the week and playing more creative, interesting football than this current national English men’s team.
They weren’t very good. Spain were much, much better. There’s no a commentator in the world who watched that game and thought England should have won.

I’m confused as in your opening post you asked if you were not being unreasonable for not supporting England as the country you come from was a former colony of England but I thought Britain were the colonialists not England? Why won’t you say which country ‘England’ colonised that you are from?

zoemum2006 · 15/07/2024 12:21

You don’t need to support England but it’s always worth being considerate of other people’s feelings.

You’re coming across as rude and deliberately provocative.

Shaketherombooga · 15/07/2024 12:21

LadyFeatheringt0n · 15/07/2024 12:18

Are you a british citizen?

If you plan to live/stay here indefinitely it seems a bit odd to almost deliberately support opposition when england play. Fine to be completely neutral or perhaps support your birth country etc.

No I came over on a small boat mwahahahahaha! And now I’m living in a mansion paid for by the state.

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