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To NOT support England ???

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Shaketherombooga · 15/07/2024 11:49

I’m not English. I have lived in England for a very long time. I do not support the England football team, I frequently support their opposition!

Colleague has taken the England loss hard, and said ‘ I bet you’re glad they lost’ - I replied that I was essentially a neutral but thought Spain deserved the win.

Hes gone off in a big old rant about how if I live here I should be supporting England teams etc.
I think he should have a wee lie down and chill out!

YABU - you SHOULD support the team of a country you’ve made a life in - even if you are from a former colony of that country

YANBU - of course you don’t have to support a national team that’s not yours

OP posts:
Shaketherombooga · 15/07/2024 13:54

OneTC · 15/07/2024 13:53

The only people I know who don't support another UK team in a championship type thing are all pretend casual types tbf

Sorry, but hell would FrEEZE over before a scouser would support Man U ANYTHING 😂😂😂😂

OP posts:
Shaketherombooga · 15/07/2024 13:53

Ploughlifht · 15/07/2024 13:49

Changing your tune there aren’t you. In the OP you said you support England’s opposition, and now you’re apparently neutral. I imagine because none of this happened.
No one cares who you support or if you’re neutral, it’s this endless anti England crap (which really has nothing to do with the football) I think most of us are fed up with.

No, I told HIM I was a neutral but thought Spain deserved the win.
When asked.
because I didn’t want to start a whole fucking THING and I also know he really cared.
But that was enough for him to start in ‘what, so you weren’t supporting England. Why not??’
’well, I’m not a English m, am I?’
and then off he went on a rant.

OP posts:
OneTC · 15/07/2024 13:53

Shaketherombooga · 15/07/2024 13:51

So if I support - say Liverpool. And both Liverpool and Man U are in the Champions League then Liverpool get knock out
Would anyone realistically expect me to support Man U??

The only people I know who don't support another UK team in a championship type thing are all pretend casual types tbf

billycat321 · 15/07/2024 13:53

I read it as 'have a wee, lie down and chill out'!

EllaVoday · 15/07/2024 13:53

I think everyone should be free to support and not support who they want.

Here was a snap last night from my Pakistani cousin who lives there and was born and raised there. She was gutted.

My other cousin supported Spain even though she’s never been there.

No one judged anyone!

To NOT support England ???
x2boys · 15/07/2024 13:52

Wakemeuuuup · 15/07/2024 13:48

I'm Irish but living in England over 20 years.

Always support England unless they're playing Ireland.

England is where we work, kids were born and go to school etc etc . It makes sense to support them

And your kids are English!
Same with my Dad and his family ,he emigrated to England when he was 11 he's 82 now he supports England mainly, and him and his family have always been big Man u fans
I do remember us all dancing round the lounge though in 1990 when Ireland got through to the Quarter finals in on penalties.

Hatfullofwillow · 15/07/2024 13:51

Unless people are regularly going to England games then they're not really supporters. Most people in England will have mixed loyalties anyway. I favour Wales at rugby and football and England at cricket for example. There are no rules, unless you're Norman Tebbit.

Shaketherombooga · 15/07/2024 13:51

So if I support - say Liverpool. And both Liverpool and Man U are in the Champions League then Liverpool get knock out
Would anyone realistically expect me to support Man U??

OP posts:
Ploughlifht · 15/07/2024 13:49

Shaketherombooga · 15/07/2024 13:45

Yes basically! But somehow work colleagues xenophobia is also my fault! How dare I say I was a neutral hoping for a good final…

let’s just say he was tired and emotional. He’s also a Man U fan so is going through a tough time in general 😅

Changing your tune there aren’t you. In the OP you said you support England’s opposition, and now you’re apparently neutral. I imagine because none of this happened.
No one cares who you support or if you’re neutral, it’s this endless anti England crap (which really has nothing to do with the football) I think most of us are fed up with.

Shaketherombooga · 15/07/2024 13:48

mynameisnot · 15/07/2024 13:31

Any jobs going at your place OP? Looking for a job where I can mess around on mumsnet all day and still get paid.

Indeed. Summer innit, very quiet time of year for us as we work with a load of Europeans…
lucky for Dave, eh? I would hate to think what he would have been putting out in the global Socials by the end of the day…
possibly declaring that all none English can all F off back to where they came from 😅

OP posts:
Wakemeuuuup · 15/07/2024 13:48

I'm Irish but living in England over 20 years.

Always support England unless they're playing Ireland.

England is where we work, kids were born and go to school etc etc . It makes sense to support them

Rainbowsponge · 15/07/2024 13:48

EllaVoday · 15/07/2024 13:46

Haha your thread got deleted

Yes it hit a few nerves for sure!

EllaVoday · 15/07/2024 13:46

Rainbowsponge · 15/07/2024 12:39

Not caring is fine but actively supporting whoever the opposition is? Why do you live here if you dislike the country?

Haha your thread got deleted

Shaketherombooga · 15/07/2024 13:45

DramaLlamaBangBang · 15/07/2024 13:41

He seems to be following op around banging on about how its her fault England lost the football, because she is not English so doesn't support England. DH is Welsh. He has lived in England since he was 12. He supports Wales. No one follows him around at work berating him over it! It doesn't have to be something OP goes through with, just a threat if he's getting too irritating. It's bordering on Tebbits cricket test.

Yes basically! But somehow work colleagues xenophobia is also my fault! How dare I say I was a neutral hoping for a good final…

let’s just say he was tired and emotional. He’s also a Man U fan so is going through a tough time in general 😅

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Rainbowsponge · 15/07/2024 13:44

Mercurial123 · 15/07/2024 13:34

I have an Irish friend OP who supports any other team than England. She would go to pubs to watch a game dressed in the opposition football shirt. Nobody cares.

How exhausting and expensive

Shaketherombooga · 15/07/2024 13:43

Gingerdancedbackwards · 15/07/2024 13:22

Soccer or aussie rules?

football football.

OP posts:
DramaLlamaBangBang · 15/07/2024 13:41

Bex5490 · 15/07/2024 12:03

I think this is a little extreme - how is it harassment?

He seems to be following op around banging on about how its her fault England lost the football, because she is not English so doesn't support England. DH is Welsh. He has lived in England since he was 12. He supports Wales. No one follows him around at work berating him over it! It doesn't have to be something OP goes through with, just a threat if he's getting too irritating. It's bordering on Tebbits cricket test.

Goldenbear · 15/07/2024 13:41

MrsGarethSouthgate · 15/07/2024 13:37

Did you live in England in 1994 when England didn’t qualify for the World Cup, and Ireland did? 🤔 I certainly remember everyone getting behind the Irish team 🇮🇪

The OP probably won’t believe you as apparently English people are just that no
diversity In their heritage whatsoever and we all have to stick rigidly to these silly tribal notions!

x2boys · 15/07/2024 13:38

Mercurial123 · 15/07/2024 13:34

I have an Irish friend OP who supports any other team than England. She would go to pubs to watch a game dressed in the opposition football shirt. Nobody cares.

That's a bit daft of her whilst I certainly dint agree with violence after football, why would you deliberately antagonise fans?

MrsGarethSouthgate · 15/07/2024 13:37

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Did you live in England in 1994 when England didn’t qualify for the World Cup, and Ireland did? 🤔 I certainly remember everyone getting behind the Irish team 🇮🇪

cupcaske123 · 15/07/2024 13:37

Mercurial123 · 15/07/2024 13:34

I have an Irish friend OP who supports any other team than England. She would go to pubs to watch a game dressed in the opposition football shirt. Nobody cares.

She goes to a lot of trouble to get her point across. Buying expensive football shirts and finding out England supporting pubs instead of ones for her side.

Mercurial123 · 15/07/2024 13:34

I have an Irish friend OP who supports any other team than England. She would go to pubs to watch a game dressed in the opposition football shirt. Nobody cares.

Zonder · 15/07/2024 13:32

Just because Ireland weren't in it!

Seems a bit mean to frequently support the opposition rather than England - like it's not just that you have loyalties elsewhere.

mynameisnot · 15/07/2024 13:31

Any jobs going at your place OP? Looking for a job where I can mess around on mumsnet all day and still get paid.

Saltedbutter · 15/07/2024 13:29

Well, I think it’s a bit weird of you but entirely your choice.
From my Facebook newsfeed, I gather a lot of people feel edgy or superior if they don’t support England, which is fine.
As a lot of posters have said, I’d support the country I lived in (unless competing with my country of birth) and I also support any country in the U.K remaining in a competition.
The ‘anti-England’ thing is a little tedious.

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