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To NOT support England ???

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Shaketherombooga · 15/07/2024 11:49

I’m not English. I have lived in England for a very long time. I do not support the England football team, I frequently support their opposition!

Colleague has taken the England loss hard, and said ‘ I bet you’re glad they lost’ - I replied that I was essentially a neutral but thought Spain deserved the win.

Hes gone off in a big old rant about how if I live here I should be supporting England teams etc.
I think he should have a wee lie down and chill out!

YABU - you SHOULD support the team of a country you’ve made a life in - even if you are from a former colony of that country

YANBU - of course you don’t have to support a national team that’s not yours

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Zonder · 15/07/2024 14:33

Mercurial123 · 15/07/2024 13:34

I have an Irish friend OP who supports any other team than England. She would go to pubs to watch a game dressed in the opposition football shirt. Nobody cares.

I think your friend is the OP 😄

gamerchick · 15/07/2024 14:32

Been a lot of obvious anti English posts on here of late. People need to get a grip.

turquoisebays · 15/07/2024 14:29

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Wow. The hatred is tangible.

Itisjustmyopinion · 15/07/2024 14:27

Crunchymum · 15/07/2024 14:23

Quite.

The "anyone but England" mentality is pathetic.

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The everyone has to support another team just because we live on the same land mass is equally pathetic

cupcaske123 · 15/07/2024 14:23

Shaketherombooga · 15/07/2024 14:21

Dave is decidedly English in that Engerland dressing up as St George for sporting events kind of way. Bizarre that you would think he was Scottish!

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Does he wear a suit of armour with a dragon under his arm?

Crunchymum · 15/07/2024 14:23

araiwa · 15/07/2024 11:55

Big difference between not supporting the country you moved to and supporting the opposition to the country you live in

Quite.

The "anyone but England" mentality is pathetic.

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Shaketherombooga · 15/07/2024 14:21

Skinglow · 15/07/2024 12:02

Another Scottish whinger.

Dave is decidedly English in that Engerland dressing up as St George for sporting events kind of way. Bizarre that you would think he was Scottish!

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Mercurial123 · 15/07/2024 14:20

Rainbowsponge · 15/07/2024 13:44

How exhausting and expensive

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She wanted to make a statement, but nobody ever made it a big deal.

cupcaske123 · 15/07/2024 14:17

x2boys · 15/07/2024 14:15

By and large though England tend to do far better than the other Home nations

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In football but Scotland and Wales do very well at rugby.

cardibach · 15/07/2024 14:16

x2boys · 15/07/2024 14:15

By and large though England tend to do far better than the other Home nations

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Well yes. They’ve far more people to choose from. Wales should be compared with North London rather than the whole of England.
What’s that got to do with endless bloody boring chat in every type of media for one team doing well and little expect sports reports for the others?

x2boys · 15/07/2024 14:15

cardibach · 15/07/2024 14:08

Nope. I’m in Wales. They always go on and on about it. Every bit of chat between presenters on Radio 2, the news, BBC News app updates. And it’s always the same.

Edit: and I think this is something that does wind up the other home nations. National media going on and on, not just in sports programmes or sports news, when England are in a tournament, but much, much less if it’s not England but one of the other home nations. It’s very obvious. England does not equal Britain.

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By and large though England tend to do far better than the other Home nations

Longma · 15/07/2024 14:14

Shaketherombooga · 15/07/2024 13:51

So if I support - say Liverpool. And both Liverpool and Man U are in the Champions League then Liverpool get knock out
Would anyone realistically expect me to support Man U??

But that isn't what you suggested in your OP.

You said you frequently support the opposition in matches. This suggests who you support varies depending on who England is playing perhaps.

Hence asking:
is it more than you don't support England and support someone else entirely? So the same team in each competition.
Or that you support 'anyone but England'?

Because the answer makes a difference in this kind of situation.

NoSuchThingAsTooManyDogs · 15/07/2024 14:13

I do not support the England football team, I frequently support their opposition!

So you just support the opposition purely to be against England? Support who you like, you're irrelevant really but that seems strange to me. To just support anyone in order to not support England seems a bit attention seeking, like you want a reaction from someone.

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People are allowed a different opinion - and you did ask!

cardibach · 15/07/2024 14:12

Maggiethecat · 15/07/2024 14:05

Precisely my view. If you’ve settled
reasonably well in a country why would you not support them outside of them playing your home country.

Dh (not born here) does same as the OP and I swear it’s to wind me up!

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Because you aren’t interested in the sport?
Because the endless going on and on is boring?
I’m British living in Britain (Wales) but I think this is, as I’ve said before, too reminiscent of the ‘Tebbit Test’ to be comfortable to read. Google it if you don’t remember it.

Sunglow1921 · 15/07/2024 14:12

Bex5490 · 15/07/2024 13:14

I think people should be a bit careful labelling things with such strong words like ‘threatening and harassment.’

OP didn’t say this man had harassed her or seemed threatening. She doesn’t exactly seem intimidated.

Imagine they took your advice and went to HR on the basis of harassment over that conversation? Poor bloke could lose his job!

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I said it could be threatening depending on tone, not that the colleague was in this case. I did question what op might have said, as they clearly enjoy triggering people.

I didn’t make any recommendations regarding hr, but they are trained to deal with this kind of thing if required. You don’t lose your job for a one off snarky comment. But repeatedly telling a (foreign) colleague that England lost because of them, that they should be supporting England etc. could, under some circumstances, be bullying and harassment.

Rainbowsponge · 15/07/2024 14:09

cardibach · 15/07/2024 14:08

Nope. I’m in Wales. They always go on and on about it. Every bit of chat between presenters on Radio 2, the news, BBC News app updates. And it’s always the same.

Edit: and I think this is something that does wind up the other home nations. National media going on and on, not just in sports programmes or sports news, when England are in a tournament, but much, much less if it’s not England but one of the other home nations. It’s very obvious. England does not equal Britain.

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I definitely agree the whole ITS COMING HOME thing needs toning down, and can see how this is annoying.

cardibach · 15/07/2024 14:08

User79853257976 · 15/07/2024 14:05

Do you live in England? If so, that might be why it would feel like they were going on and on about it, but considering the men’s team hasn’t won anything in nearly 60 years this is a massive assumption. Sometimes the most vocal voices are the negative ones unfortunately, so that’s why I said ‘a lot’, rather than 100% of England fans support the other home nations despite being hated by all.

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Nope. I’m in Wales. They always go on and on about it. Every bit of chat between presenters on Radio 2, the news, BBC News app updates. And it’s always the same.

Edit: and I think this is something that does wind up the other home nations. National media going on and on, not just in sports programmes or sports news, when England are in a tournament, but much, much less if it’s not England but one of the other home nations. It’s very obvious. England does not equal Britain.

Maggiethecat · 15/07/2024 14:05

Leftphalange100 · 15/07/2024 11:51

To be honest if I'd made a home in a country that I was happy and settled in, I'd support them. But that is up to you at the end of the day, its your choice. Different if they were playing against my home country but if not my home country I'd support them also as the country I live in.

Precisely my view. If you’ve settled
reasonably well in a country why would you not support them outside of them playing your home country.

Dh (not born here) does same as the OP and I swear it’s to wind me up!

User79853257976 · 15/07/2024 14:05

cardibach · 15/07/2024 12:49

It’s not what I observed when Wales progressed further than England, to be honest.
I have zero interest in football so I don’t support any team. I was slightly dreading an England win for the inevitable going on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on about it on the tv and social media for the next zillion years though. I didn’t actively wish them to lose because I don’t have enough interest in it to do that, but England fans and the media do the team no favours.

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Do you live in England? If so, that might be why it would feel like they were going on and on about it, but considering the men’s team hasn’t won anything in nearly 60 years this is a massive assumption. Sometimes the most vocal voices are the negative ones unfortunately, so that’s why I said ‘a lot’, rather than 100% of England fans support the other home nations despite being hated by all.

lolly792 · 15/07/2024 14:05

Clearly a slow day at the office for the OP 😂🤣😂

LlynTegid · 15/07/2024 14:00

Ploughlifht · 15/07/2024 13:58

No but don’t go to Manchester and spend the whole tournament saying how much you hate people from Manchester, openly support any team Man U were playing and celebrate when they lose. Quick lesson on how not to be a knob for you.

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You could celebrate a Man U defeat in Manchester, alongside those who support Man City. Though I agree with you about hating Mancunians.

LlynTegid · 15/07/2024 13:58

I would have thought the OPs colleague would be used to people not supporting a team they have any connection with. Or are you in the rare position of having no Manchester United fans at your place of work?

Ploughlifht · 15/07/2024 13:58

Shaketherombooga · 15/07/2024 13:51

So if I support - say Liverpool. And both Liverpool and Man U are in the Champions League then Liverpool get knock out
Would anyone realistically expect me to support Man U??

No but don’t go to Manchester and spend the whole tournament saying how much you hate people from Manchester, openly support any team Man U were playing and celebrate when they lose. Quick lesson on how not to be a knob for you.

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Shaketherombooga · 15/07/2024 13:56

billycat321 · 15/07/2024 13:53

I read it as 'have a wee, lie down and chill out'!

it’ll be a while before he does have a wee, he’ll need some serious rehydration! I think beer has been his only source of liquid for quite a few weeks now…

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