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To NOT support England ???

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Shaketherombooga · 15/07/2024 11:49

I’m not English. I have lived in England for a very long time. I do not support the England football team, I frequently support their opposition!

Colleague has taken the England loss hard, and said ‘ I bet you’re glad they lost’ - I replied that I was essentially a neutral but thought Spain deserved the win.

Hes gone off in a big old rant about how if I live here I should be supporting England teams etc.
I think he should have a wee lie down and chill out!

YABU - you SHOULD support the team of a country you’ve made a life in - even if you are from a former colony of that country

YANBU - of course you don’t have to support a national team that’s not yours

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Ploughlifht · 15/07/2024 15:51

Shaketherombooga · 15/07/2024 15:04

Ouch, still some smarting from the result…

Ah, the true purpose of your thread revealed 😉

Rainbowsponge · 15/07/2024 15:48

JustAVeryWeirdWoman · 15/07/2024 15:46

We're on a thread about English people who feel offended that non-English people don't support England in footie! If you don't care, then this isn't about you, so move along, dear.

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Can you quote where somebody has said that please?

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Shaketherombooga · 15/07/2024 15:47

cupcaske123 · 15/07/2024 15:31

I feel proud of team GB in the Olympics and other athletic events and I was proud of Murray winning Wimbledon.

However, I take on board the oft cited criticism of British broadcasting treating the UK as though it's England. It must be very annoying.

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I support Team GB all day long.

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JustAVeryWeirdWoman · 15/07/2024 15:46

NoSuchThingAsTooManyDogs · 15/07/2024 15:43

I'm sorry, guys. I'll support you when you actually learn to play.

You sound full of self importance. You're sorry? No one cares that you don't support them. It's a bigger thing in your head than to sane person, I assure you.

We're on a thread about English people who feel offended that non-English people don't support England in footie! If you don't care, then this isn't about you, so move along, dear.

NoSuchThingAsTooManyDogs · 15/07/2024 15:43

I'm sorry, guys. I'll support you when you actually learn to play.

You sound full of self importance. You're sorry? No one cares that you don't support them. It's a bigger thing in your head than to sane person, I assure you.

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Shaketherombooga · 15/07/2024 15:42

derxa · 15/07/2024 15:27

Precisely. Good Morning Britain is especially guilty of this. England team is referred to 'us' and 'we'. And 'making the nation proud'. I thought the nation was the UK.

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It’s all like that, unfortunately.

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Arlanymor · 15/07/2024 15:42

derxa · 15/07/2024 15:27

Precisely. Good Morning Britain is especially guilty of this. England team is referred to 'us' and 'we'. And 'making the nation proud'. I thought the nation was the UK.

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Also in Wales. And to be clear I couldn’t care less about football, whether Wales are playing or not. But you see it loads in rugby too and it’s so annoying - you would think no one else in the UK played any kind of sport outside of England. I get the whole 68m v 3m people argument, but it is so disproportionate.

JustAVeryWeirdWoman · 15/07/2024 15:37

I get why the OP is annoyed, I find the UK media and general vibe to be insufferable whenever there's footie on.

I'm not English either and my native country was not in the final, so I approached it impartially: I like football and I support the team that plays the best, most entertaining game.

This means I can't support England. Nothing against it in principle. England invented the sport and popularised it, all credit due. It would be nice if they were good at playing it. The reality is that even when England won the World Cup in the 60s it was by cheating (massive help from the referee). This year England had the easiest draw of all the big teams and still struggled mightily in some extremely dull games, Kane moves like a grandpa etc.

I'm sorry, guys. I'll support you when you actually learn to play. I get the local emotional attachment, but t's unfair to expect a bunch of immigrants to support such an unexciting team.

cupcaske123 · 15/07/2024 15:31

Shaketherombooga · 15/07/2024 15:28

It’s all like that, unfortunately.

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I feel proud of team GB in the Olympics and other athletic events and I was proud of Murray winning Wimbledon.

However, I take on board the oft cited criticism of British broadcasting treating the UK as though it's England. It must be very annoying.

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Shaketherombooga · 15/07/2024 15:28

derxa · 15/07/2024 15:27

Precisely. Good Morning Britain is especially guilty of this. England team is referred to 'us' and 'we'. And 'making the nation proud'. I thought the nation was the UK.

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It’s all like that, unfortunately.

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derxa · 15/07/2024 15:27

cardibach · 15/07/2024 14:08

Nope. I’m in Wales. They always go on and on about it. Every bit of chat between presenters on Radio 2, the news, BBC News app updates. And it’s always the same.

Edit: and I think this is something that does wind up the other home nations. National media going on and on, not just in sports programmes or sports news, when England are in a tournament, but much, much less if it’s not England but one of the other home nations. It’s very obvious. England does not equal Britain.

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Precisely. Good Morning Britain is especially guilty of this. England team is referred to 'us' and 'we'. And 'making the nation proud'. I thought the nation was the UK.

lolly792 · 15/07/2024 15:22

OP needs a duvet day - they're taking England's achievement in getting to the final very badly 😂

cupcaske123 · 15/07/2024 15:11

lolly792 · 15/07/2024 15:10

I think the co-workers are getting on with the work while Dave is winding the OP up and the OP is getting in a lather!! Grin

Dave and his inflatable dragon were sent home.

Arlanymor · 15/07/2024 15:11

cardibach · 15/07/2024 12:49

It’s not what I observed when Wales progressed further than England, to be honest.
I have zero interest in football so I don’t support any team. I was slightly dreading an England win for the inevitable going on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on about it on the tv and social media for the next zillion years though. I didn’t actively wish them to lose because I don’t have enough interest in it to do that, but England fans and the media do the team no favours.

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Absolutely! Couldn’t have put it better myself.

lolly792 · 15/07/2024 15:11

.... if any of this is true that is!

lolly792 · 15/07/2024 15:10

I think the co-workers are getting on with the work while Dave is winding the OP up and the OP is getting in a lather!! Grin

lolly792 · 15/07/2024 15:09

Spain deserved to win. England deserved to come second. Both pretty impressive really

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Mercurial123 · 15/07/2024 15:08

Shaketherombooga · 15/07/2024 15:04

Ouch, still some smarting from the result…

Or you're just stirring because you're bored.

Rainbowsponge · 15/07/2024 15:08

cupcaske123 · 15/07/2024 15:02

I'm team Dave. He throws his heart and soul into sporting events and is currently heartbroken.

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😂😂😂

I imagine their coworkers are hearing a lot of hissing about famines and dragons and feel utterly bemused

lolly792 · 15/07/2024 15:08

Ouch, still some smarting from the result

GrinGrinGrinGrin

Rainbowsponge · 15/07/2024 15:08

Shaketherombooga · 15/07/2024 15:04

Ouch, still some smarting from the result…

At least we had a final to watch 🤭

redalex261 · 15/07/2024 15:06

I’m Scottish, live in Scotland. I have no interest in football but I really wanted England to win, would’ve been nice for them. I was in England on holiday during the last Euros when they did quite well and the atmosphere was great in the run-up and during the matches. It’s petty when people from other parts of the UK support any team but England.

Would’ve found the endless 1966 World Cup-esque romanticised reminiscences on any football related news commentaries for the next ten years kind of irritating, but hey-ho. Can’t say the Scots, Welsh or Irish would be any different if they won an international competition…..
I do think Spain played better though and deserved the win. I feel sorry for the players and manager who have been turned on by their fans - it’s really cruel and nasty.

Original poster
Shaketherombooga · 15/07/2024 15:04

Ouch, still some smarting from the result…

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cupcaske123 · 15/07/2024 15:02

NooNakedJacuzziness · 15/07/2024 14:51

Never mind the football, I can't work out who I'm supporting on this thread - sad yet passionate Dave with his blow up dragon or goady yet not obsessed OP.

I'm team Dave. He throws his heart and soul into sporting events and is currently heartbroken.

x2boys · 15/07/2024 14:59

NoSuchThingAsTooManyDogs · 15/07/2024 14:53

Neither. I feel sorry for the rest of their work colleagues putting up with both of them.

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