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To NOT support England ???

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Shaketherombooga · 15/07/2024 11:49

I’m not English. I have lived in England for a very long time. I do not support the England football team, I frequently support their opposition!

Colleague has taken the England loss hard, and said ‘ I bet you’re glad they lost’ - I replied that I was essentially a neutral but thought Spain deserved the win.

Hes gone off in a big old rant about how if I live here I should be supporting England teams etc.
I think he should have a wee lie down and chill out!

YABU - you SHOULD support the team of a country you’ve made a life in - even if you are from a former colony of that country

YANBU - of course you don’t have to support a national team that’s not yours

OP posts:
Itsjustnotcricket11 · 15/07/2024 17:47

I’m not from England but lived here for many, many years and could never support England and often support the opposition as well. My children get quite upset that I don’t support them as do most other people. I didnt choose to live here for the rest of my life and are stuck here now I fully support my home county still.

HPW26 · 15/07/2024 17:45

I am English, but live in Wales. I get really fed up of some Welsh people supporting the team England are playing - I have even seen Azerbaijani flags being flown.
I will always support a home nation team unless they are playing England.
I think it dangerous generalising about all English do this, or all Welsh do that. We are all individuals

DanielGault · 15/07/2024 17:40

Shaketherombooga · 15/07/2024 17:37

😅

Lol!!!!

Goldenbear · 15/07/2024 17:40

Shaketherombooga · 15/07/2024 17:38

Nope

Why won’t you say?

Shaketherombooga · 15/07/2024 17:39

NasiDagang · 15/07/2024 17:36

I was born in Malaysia but I would support England in a football match. This is my country now and I'm proud to be British. I don't understand your attitude OP, it literally stinks!

Well you crack on, I’m not English and don’t consider myself to be. If you want to change nationality then that’s entirely your choice.
I’ll keep mine as is.

OP posts:
Goldenbear · 15/07/2024 17:39

Shaketherombooga · 15/07/2024 17:38

Nope

Welsh?

Goldenbear · 15/07/2024 17:38

NasiDagang · 15/07/2024 17:36

I was born in Malaysia but I would support England in a football match. This is my country now and I'm proud to be British. I don't understand your attitude OP, it literally stinks!

Yes, it is so unnecessarily divisive. Maybe it’s different as DH and I grew up in London ms have diverse heritage are kids don’t have an English surname but I don’t understand all the lines that are drawn in such a hateful way.

Shaketherombooga · 15/07/2024 17:38

Noraise · 15/07/2024 16:38

Yep. 👍

Nope

OP posts:
Shaketherombooga · 15/07/2024 17:37

😅

OP posts:
NasiDagang · 15/07/2024 17:36

I was born in Malaysia but I would support England in a football match. This is my country now and I'm proud to be British. I don't understand your attitude OP, it literally stinks!

Bellsandthistle · 15/07/2024 17:29

YABU to say “even if you are from a former colony of that country”. 🙄

OneTC · 15/07/2024 17:02

It’s so much more than goals.

Says the glory hunter

Goldenbear · 15/07/2024 17:01

Shaketherombooga · 15/07/2024 16:56

Yup! Not particularly fussed at the start which team won but it became apparent that one team had more skill, flair and team spirit and deserved to win.
Now though, after this thread? ABE!

Again, what is the former colony country that you are from? Why won’t you say; you have been on this thread all day and it has still not been mentioned.

Shaketherombooga · 15/07/2024 16:56

cardibach · 15/07/2024 16:28

No, at different times. I’m totally neutral all the time, in that I don’t support any team ever.
However, the OP might support, say, Denmark if England play them, but then last night support neither Spain nor England, therefore being neutral on this occasion. Can you see that different football matches don’t happen ‘all at the same time’?

Yup! Not particularly fussed at the start which team won but it became apparent that one team had more skill, flair and team spirit and deserved to win.
Now though, after this thread? ABE!

OP posts:
Goldenbear · 15/07/2024 16:55

UptheHoop · 15/07/2024 16:40

Need some more characters in the game. Can anyone get behind this monotonous bunch of babyfaces. One of the reasons people love the Lionesses is the personality shown by the likes of Earps and Toone. Those tiktok videos they make are a hoot.

The men’s team is young and this was something that my sixth form son and his friends could relate to! But I don’t know anyone that didn’t enjoy the tournament!

Saka is from my neck of the woods so extra points there, he is magic, how anyone can describe him as bland is beyond me!

TinkerTiger · 15/07/2024 16:55

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I do agree though. I’m not originally from here and support them because it’s a nice way to feel part of the community that I’ve chosen as my home.

I have a friend who is also not from here and makes a point of not supporting the team, saying she hopes they lose whenever it’s a big match. Tbh hating England is a personality for her. It’s odd tbh, and I don’t understand why she continues to live here if she hates it so much.

Shaketherombooga · 15/07/2024 16:52

x2boys · 15/07/2024 16:20

Spain were the better team but if England were so shite
Why was it only 2/1 to Spain surely if they were great they would have scored more goals?

It’s football. It’s so much more than goals. If you’d prefer to see a team get the ball then sit on in in their own half for as long as possible running down the clock, hoping the other team don’t score then England is the team for you.
I prefer the attacking style, you know, quick skilful passing across an entire team leading to shots on target.
each to their own.

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Differentstarts · 15/07/2024 16:47

Yabu to say you frequently support the other teams. I would absolutely understand if you supported a specific team above england if it's your home team but it sounds like your actively supporting every team except england which seems strange. Since you live here but seem to dislike English people

UptheHoop · 15/07/2024 16:40

Need some more characters in the game. Can anyone get behind this monotonous bunch of babyfaces. One of the reasons people love the Lionesses is the personality shown by the likes of Earps and Toone. Those tiktok videos they make are a hoot.

Noraise · 15/07/2024 16:38

Skinglow · 15/07/2024 12:02

Another Scottish whinger.

Yep. 👍

cupcaske123 · 15/07/2024 16:31

Rainbowsponge · 15/07/2024 16:25

Neutral means having no opinion - not caring whether they win or lose.

No neutral means not taking sides. It's unlikely the OP would ever support England in a game. That's not neutral just because she didn't support Spain in one instance.

cardibach · 15/07/2024 16:29

Rainbowsponge · 15/07/2024 16:25

Neutral means having no opinion - not caring whether they win or lose.

Yes. I don’t care. That’s what ‘not supporting’ means for many people. It doesn’t mean supporting someone else - and even if you do, you could still be neutral in matches not involving your preferred team.

lolly792 · 15/07/2024 16:29

Cole Palmer also very enjoyable to watch imo

cardibach · 15/07/2024 16:28

Rainbowsponge · 15/07/2024 16:22

Schrodinger’s fan, both neutral and not neutral, all at the same time

No, at different times. I’m totally neutral all the time, in that I don’t support any team ever.
However, the OP might support, say, Denmark if England play them, but then last night support neither Spain nor England, therefore being neutral on this occasion. Can you see that different football matches don’t happen ‘all at the same time’?

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