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To NOT support England ???

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Shaketherombooga · 15/07/2024 11:49

I’m not English. I have lived in England for a very long time. I do not support the England football team, I frequently support their opposition!

Colleague has taken the England loss hard, and said ‘ I bet you’re glad they lost’ - I replied that I was essentially a neutral but thought Spain deserved the win.

Hes gone off in a big old rant about how if I live here I should be supporting England teams etc.
I think he should have a wee lie down and chill out!

YABU - you SHOULD support the team of a country you’ve made a life in - even if you are from a former colony of that country

YANBU - of course you don’t have to support a national team that’s not yours

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User79853257976 · 15/07/2024 18:35

DanielGault · 15/07/2024 17:55

Again, it's that attitude. We don't owe you our support. Mind yourselves, and the rest of us will support who we like, with or without your approval. As for you always doing better, apparently the trophy cabinet tells a different story, so get down off your high horse.

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It’s deliberately supporting our opponents that people oppose, not that you don’t actively support us.

SnipSnipMrBurgess · 15/07/2024 18:34

Of course OP is Irish and of course we don't want England to win anything ?

It's not xenophobia, it's not due to your colonising ways (which aren't in the past, get out of our county, thanks)

It's the unbelievable smugness, the little englander mentality, the fact that the women's team actually won last year yet the men's mediocrity is celebrated.

But most of all it's the It's coming Home song.

AntnDecs We're on the Ball was much better.

To NOT support England ???
Rainbowsponge · 15/07/2024 18:34

Clarabell77 · 15/07/2024 18:33

Another bad loser 😂😂

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Scotland lost though?

It’s not like the other countries didn’t enter, they did and they got knocked out much sooner than England.

They then became utterly obsessed with our team and whether or not it won the final Confused if England are losers what does that make teams knocked out weeks ago?

Clarabell77 · 15/07/2024 18:33

Skinglow · 15/07/2024 12:02

Another Scottish whinger.

Another bad loser 😂😂

EllaVoday · 15/07/2024 18:32

Rizzola95 · 15/07/2024 18:18

"Haha your thread got deleted"

Are you lost @EllaVoday? Cbeebies is that way 👉

Did that sound witty in your wee head?

Goldenbear · 15/07/2024 18:31

DanielGault · 15/07/2024 18:23

I know plenty about football thanks. And I don't need your permission to say that. Idk why you're saying things about people not going near a football pitch, how could you possibly know that?

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You have just stated categorically (as if anyone cares) that England played badly, they got to the final how could they have played badly, it is clear from that contradictory comment you don’t know much about football.

Caerulea · 15/07/2024 18:27

You're entirely not wrong about being under no obligations to support anyone other than your home country. Plenty of of ppl do, however, support the country they live in or are only a few generations into living here (anyone see that INCREDIBLE video from Edgebaston during the India vs Packistan cricket match? Literally the best thing I've seen in terms of wholesome crowd fun from this Euros) but at some point they feel British or English alongside their ancestral history - this is their home as much as mine or anyone elses & I bloody love this country for that. But they don't have to & neither do you, that's fine.

The guy behind me in the pub last night? Croatian. But he was as passionate about the match as I was.

The issue with you is you. You're not impartial in the least & are taking an unpleasant amount joy from others sadness & that's just not a nice characteristic. Being smug is near top of my list for gross behaviour, it's just horrible. Doesn't matter if you were English doing it about other countries either.

Anyone taking pleasure from others misery, sneering & mocking, isn't a good person imo. Gentle ribbing between the UK nations is fine, but in the past few years it's become something else & it's plain nasty.

Obvs none of the above applies to Ronaldo, I will revel in every tear shed.

DanielGault · 15/07/2024 18:26

Goldenbear · 15/07/2024 18:20

If you are referring to me I can bet my bottom dollar that my heritage my DH’s and my DCs is more divers than yours.

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I didn't question how 'divers' your background was?

WithACatLikeTread · 15/07/2024 18:25

Shaketherombooga · 15/07/2024 18:11

Telling Dave that I wasn’t supporting England last night was hardly ‘bitching and moaning’ about England…
Little Britainers may hate when forinners live here, but nowt you can do about it. Must be annoying when people from countries you conquer follow you home and THEN have the gall not to support your football team 😂

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Bullshit. Most English don't mind and we don't care about the English team being so diverse. It shows how welcoming we are.

WithACatLikeTread · 15/07/2024 18:24

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 15/07/2024 18:13

I think I would support Scotland if they got through- but I totally understand them not supporting England. Not every street is or has to be two way.

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Funny that they would support Spain. Conveniently forgetting Spain beat up Catalans and preventing independence..

DanielGault · 15/07/2024 18:23

Goldenbear · 15/07/2024 18:18

The got the final or is that all down to luck, you clearly know naff all about football, what gets my goat more is people who clearly have limited football knowledge declaring categorically that England played badly throughout the tournament and the hilarious observations of the youthful male team as being ‘beige’ again what does that even mean. Frankly, it is embarrassing to hear people state such nonsense when they don’t go near a football pitch.

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I know plenty about football thanks. And I don't need your permission to say that. Idk why you're saying things about people not going near a football pitch, how could you possibly know that?

GiveItAGoMalcom · 15/07/2024 18:23

Ploughlifht · 15/07/2024 18:20

I promise you, no one cares who you support. I’m sorry you’re not getting the reaction you were hoping for on this thread - you’re now desperately turning to laughing emojis. And stop pretending Dave is real, we all know he isn’t.

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🤣🤣🤣

The OP probably thinks they're the only person to start this tiresome thread that comes up every 2 years, what with the Euros and the world cup.

Oh dear...

Goldenbear · 15/07/2024 18:23

Shaketherombooga · 15/07/2024 18:11

Telling Dave that I wasn’t supporting England last night was hardly ‘bitching and moaning’ about England…
Little Britainers may hate when forinners live here, but nowt you can do about it. Must be annoying when people from countries you conquer follow you home and THEN have the gall not to support your football team 😂

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What country are you from then? It was England playing in the final last night Britain, I think you’ve lost your argument 😂

WithACatLikeTread · 15/07/2024 18:22

Shaketherombooga · 15/07/2024 18:06

To be clear I like living where I live I’m just not a supporter of the England football team!
it is possible to live in a country while not thinking A) it’s perfect B) changing nationality C) Giving a damn about their national sports team/s!

I reckon you might be Scouse.

WithACatLikeTread · 15/07/2024 18:20

DanielGault · 15/07/2024 18:05

I am Irish, but that doesn't negate my point. England have had very little actual success, despite a very prominent league. And England should do well compared to the other UK countries by sheer dint of its size. But they have been poor. I don't count this team in those terms, they just came up against a better team in Spain. But there seems to be quite a few people knocking around that believe you're 'owed' a trophy for some reason. That gets my goat tbh.

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Despite that they are ranked extremely highly in the world rankings. In the top five. That isn't a fluke

Ploughlifht · 15/07/2024 18:20

Shaketherombooga · 15/07/2024 18:11

Telling Dave that I wasn’t supporting England last night was hardly ‘bitching and moaning’ about England…
Little Britainers may hate when forinners live here, but nowt you can do about it. Must be annoying when people from countries you conquer follow you home and THEN have the gall not to support your football team 😂

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I promise you, no one cares who you support. I’m sorry you’re not getting the reaction you were hoping for on this thread - you’re now desperately turning to laughing emojis. And stop pretending Dave is real, we all know he isn’t.

Goldenbear · 15/07/2024 18:20

DanielGault · 15/07/2024 18:16

Perhaps take the time to peruse the previous comments which explains in detail why people might not support England. HTH.

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If you are referring to me I can bet my bottom dollar that my heritage my DH’s and my DCs is more divers than yours.

Davros · 15/07/2024 18:19

Are you telling me that all those ex-pats from England living in Spain were cheering for Spain? Not sure I believe that.
Maybe not against England but against another country, yeah, I reckon they'd support Spain

StrawberryMemories · 15/07/2024 18:18

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Goldenbear · 15/07/2024 18:18

DanielGault · 15/07/2024 18:05

I am Irish, but that doesn't negate my point. England have had very little actual success, despite a very prominent league. And England should do well compared to the other UK countries by sheer dint of its size. But they have been poor. I don't count this team in those terms, they just came up against a better team in Spain. But there seems to be quite a few people knocking around that believe you're 'owed' a trophy for some reason. That gets my goat tbh.

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The got the final or is that all down to luck, you clearly know naff all about football, what gets my goat more is people who clearly have limited football knowledge declaring categorically that England played badly throughout the tournament and the hilarious observations of the youthful male team as being ‘beige’ again what does that even mean. Frankly, it is embarrassing to hear people state such nonsense when they don’t go near a football pitch.

Rizzola95 · 15/07/2024 18:18

"Haha your thread got deleted"

Are you lost @EllaVoday? Cbeebies is that way 👉

StrawberryMemories · 15/07/2024 18:18

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GiveItAGoMalcom · 15/07/2024 18:17

OrwellianTimes · 15/07/2024 11:50

Support who you like - normal people don’t care!

This ^^ 🙄

The dramatic CAPITAL LETTERS in the thread title and 3 question marks???

Did make me laugh though.

DanielGault · 15/07/2024 18:16

Rizzola95 · 15/07/2024 18:14

This.
I'm no football fan myself but I don't begrudge fans being happy and excited. In fact I think it's nice and I love seeing them singing and decorating with flags. I also don't like how them being hopeful and singing songs is always skewed by anglophobes into them being arrogant. Fans of the other nations don't seem to come under the same scrutiny despite seemingly behaving the same way (we are obviously exposed to our own fans and media more because we're in the same country as them).
What I find tiresome is the way it's inevitably used by anti English people and they seem to be a lot more vocally (and frequently) negative and toxic than anything I've seen coming from England fans tbh.

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Perhaps take the time to peruse the previous comments which explains in detail why people might not support England. HTH.

Maggiethecat · 15/07/2024 18:15

Itsjustnotcricket11 · 15/07/2024 17:47

I’m not from England but lived here for many, many years and could never support England and often support the opposition as well. My children get quite upset that I don’t support them as do most other people. I didnt choose to live here for the rest of my life and are stuck here now I fully support my home county still.

if your children are quite young have you tried explaining why you don’t support the country (presumably) of their birth?

it seems a bit mean not to support England even if just to support your Dc. What’s the worst that could happen?