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To NOT support England ???

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Shaketherombooga · 15/07/2024 11:49

I’m not English. I have lived in England for a very long time. I do not support the England football team, I frequently support their opposition!

Colleague has taken the England loss hard, and said ‘ I bet you’re glad they lost’ - I replied that I was essentially a neutral but thought Spain deserved the win.

Hes gone off in a big old rant about how if I live here I should be supporting England teams etc.
I think he should have a wee lie down and chill out!

YABU - you SHOULD support the team of a country you’ve made a life in - even if you are from a former colony of that country

YANBU - of course you don’t have to support a national team that’s not yours

OP posts:
Glitterybee · 15/07/2024 18:45

As an Irish person I will NEVER support England. I will cheer for whoever the opposition is everytime!!!

And on that note I was delighted for spain last night 🎉🎉🇪🇸🇪🇸

WithACatLikeTread · 15/07/2024 18:45

Clarabell77 · 15/07/2024 18:43

How is it sour grapes when the actual England fans were wanting Southgate sacked? For a country of its size England should be romping it against Slovenia, Denmark and Switzerland, and they didn’t. They relied on a lot of decisions going their way.

Maybe give up the football talk and stick to something else. You obviously don't realise the quality of a couple of those teams.

SnipSnipMrBurgess · 15/07/2024 18:44

Rainbowsponge · 15/07/2024 18:41

No, I meant in response to ‘little Englander, colonialism’ blah blah - there is PLENTY we could say in return but can’t, as they would go sobbing to the mods as they can’t take it in reverse.

Rainbow, sweetheart, have at it, doesn't bother me in the slightest girl!

DanielGault · 15/07/2024 18:43

Goldenbear · 15/07/2024 18:39

They couldn’t have got the the final if they played that badly, it’s just nonsense that it is all luck and that they don’t have interesting young players, just rubbish, said by folk that is really just sour grapes.

It's not just sour grapes, it's a rational reaction to the OTT way the British media goes on about the team. Of course people laugh at it. It's cringe worthy. The general population doesn't seem to carry on like that, but I'm looking at the news, so getting a small sample.

Beautiful3 · 15/07/2024 18:43

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Wow you're so rude. Of course you should support either your home country's team or the country you're living in. Otherwise it sounds like you hate us?!

Clarabell77 · 15/07/2024 18:43

Goldenbear · 15/07/2024 18:39

They couldn’t have got the the final if they played that badly, it’s just nonsense that it is all luck and that they don’t have interesting young players, just rubbish, said by folk that is really just sour grapes.

How is it sour grapes when the actual England fans were wanting Southgate sacked? For a country of its size England should be romping it against Slovenia, Denmark and Switzerland, and they didn’t. They relied on a lot of decisions going their way.

Goldenbear · 15/07/2024 18:43

Littlebitpsycho · 15/07/2024 18:38

@Shaketherombooga I'm English through and through and actively hoped they wouldn't make it as far as they did.

I just can't be doing with all the 'footballs coming home' crap - no it isn't. And it won't until they're less shit. And even if they eventually become less shit I still won't care, and still won't want them to win.

I went to bed before 8pm last night with my takeaway kebab, put my phone on silent and banned anyone in the house from talking to me about the result because I. Just. Don't. Care.

So yeah your colleague is being unreasonable. I think you've been remarkably polite. I wouldn't have been!

Awaits the horrible comments (which I also won't care about)

So you are a self-confessed non football fan and yet you have the knowledge and insight to state they are ‘shit so this is not something you really know is it?

Fine to be a but miserable about it all of course - hope the kebab was nice.

lemonmeringueno3 · 15/07/2024 18:42

In my place of work, we have a Spanish national who obviously supported Spain. We also had lots of discussion about how Spain were the stronger team and deserved to win. So I think we were grown-up and subjective about it all.

But then there is just that one twat who bleats on about 'supporting the other team on principle' and came in laughing about it.

I think being known for anti-English sentiment, especially among co-workers who you presumably want to get along with, is not particularly big or clever. The football didn't colonise or subjugate anyone and neither did their fans. It particularly rankles if the person being loudly and aggressively anti-English has chosen to build a life in England because then it's as if they're whining on just to piss people off.

WithACatLikeTread · 15/07/2024 18:41

Clarabell77 · 15/07/2024 18:40

oh and it was the diving/decisions and also the luck of the draw in not getting any bigger teams to play really until the semi final.

So? You can only beat the teams in front of you. Do you watch much football?

Rainbowsponge · 15/07/2024 18:41

DanielGault · 15/07/2024 18:39

In football terms, go nuts! You'll be here all night though.

No, I meant in response to ‘little Englander, colonialism’ blah blah - there is PLENTY we could say in return but can’t, as they would go sobbing to the mods as they can’t take it in reverse.

Rizzola95 · 15/07/2024 18:40

@EllaVoday that was meant to be more lighthearted than it sounded reading it back as opposed to trying to insulting. However I do think your comment was really unnecessary and childish.

Clarabell77 · 15/07/2024 18:40

Goldenbear · 15/07/2024 18:31

You have just stated categorically (as if anyone cares) that England played badly, they got to the final how could they have played badly, it is clear from that contradictory comment you don’t know much about football.

oh and it was the diving/decisions and also the luck of the draw in not getting any bigger teams to play really until the semi final.

DanielGault · 15/07/2024 18:39

Rainbowsponge · 15/07/2024 18:38

Yet if we discussed Ireland’s many faults no doubt you would go crying to the mods!

In football terms, go nuts! You'll be here all night though.

Goldenbear · 15/07/2024 18:39

Clarabell77 · 15/07/2024 18:36

They did play badly. That’s why the England supporters wanted Southgate sacked a few weeks ago. They were very, very lucky to get to the final with that quality of play. The luck mostly came from referee decisions going their way even when they were blatantly diving.

They couldn’t have got the the final if they played that badly, it’s just nonsense that it is all luck and that they don’t have interesting young players, just rubbish, said by folk that is really just sour grapes.

Rainbowsponge · 15/07/2024 18:38

SnipSnipMrBurgess · 15/07/2024 18:34

Of course OP is Irish and of course we don't want England to win anything ?

It's not xenophobia, it's not due to your colonising ways (which aren't in the past, get out of our county, thanks)

It's the unbelievable smugness, the little englander mentality, the fact that the women's team actually won last year yet the men's mediocrity is celebrated.

But most of all it's the It's coming Home song.

AntnDecs We're on the Ball was much better.

Yet if we discussed Ireland’s many faults no doubt you would go crying to the mods!

Littlebitpsycho · 15/07/2024 18:38

@Shaketherombooga I'm English through and through and actively hoped they wouldn't make it as far as they did.

I just can't be doing with all the 'footballs coming home' crap - no it isn't. And it won't until they're less shit. And even if they eventually become less shit I still won't care, and still won't want them to win.

I went to bed before 8pm last night with my takeaway kebab, put my phone on silent and banned anyone in the house from talking to me about the result because I. Just. Don't. Care.

So yeah your colleague is being unreasonable. I think you've been remarkably polite. I wouldn't have been!

Awaits the horrible comments (which I also won't care about)

DanielGault · 15/07/2024 18:38

Rizzola95 · 15/07/2024 18:37

"Perhaps take the time to peruse the previous comments which explains in detail why people might not support England. HTH."

@DanielGault perhaps take the time to read the post you're replying to and explain where I said that it matters who supports who?
Your attitude absolutely stinks and you're so blinded by your own prejudice that you're seeing things that aren't there. HTH pet.

What the fuck are you on about? HTH pet loveen.

User79853257976 · 15/07/2024 18:37

Where are you from, OP?

WithACatLikeTread · 15/07/2024 18:37

Clarabell77 · 15/07/2024 18:36

They did play badly. That’s why the England supporters wanted Southgate sacked a few weeks ago. They were very, very lucky to get to the final with that quality of play. The luck mostly came from referee decisions going their way even when they were blatantly diving.

Actually they played pretty well yesterday hence why it took ages for Spain to score. I think they should be happy with that performance.

Davros · 15/07/2024 18:37

I remember supporting Scotland in the 1974 World Cup. England hadn't qualified so Scotland it was, despite being English with an Irish mother. You're riddled with prejudice OP

Rizzola95 · 15/07/2024 18:37

"Perhaps take the time to peruse the previous comments which explains in detail why people might not support England. HTH."

@DanielGault perhaps take the time to read the post you're replying to and explain where I said that it matters who supports who?
Your attitude absolutely stinks and you're so blinded by your own prejudice that you're seeing things that aren't there. HTH pet.

Caerulea · 15/07/2024 18:37

And for anyone that hasn't seen it - English ppl, men & women, girls & boys on tenterhooks & then feeling pure elation at the final successful penalty in the semis. Wanna bet OP wouldn't be smug & sneering in their faces like she was to Dave?

https://twitter.com/HarjapBhangal/status/1809659744950288488?t=F5yfyNDMwi8JzXCKJK10fw&s=19

x.com

https://twitter.com/HarjapBhangal/status/1809659744950288488?s=19&t=F5yfyNDMwi8JzXCKJK10fw

WithACatLikeTread · 15/07/2024 18:36

SnipSnipMrBurgess · 15/07/2024 18:34

Of course OP is Irish and of course we don't want England to win anything ?

It's not xenophobia, it's not due to your colonising ways (which aren't in the past, get out of our county, thanks)

It's the unbelievable smugness, the little englander mentality, the fact that the women's team actually won last year yet the men's mediocrity is celebrated.

But most of all it's the It's coming Home song.

AntnDecs We're on the Ball was much better.

You say it is your country but quite a few in NI would disagree. Are you going to ignore that fact?

Clarabell77 · 15/07/2024 18:36

Goldenbear · 15/07/2024 18:31

You have just stated categorically (as if anyone cares) that England played badly, they got to the final how could they have played badly, it is clear from that contradictory comment you don’t know much about football.

They did play badly. That’s why the England supporters wanted Southgate sacked a few weeks ago. They were very, very lucky to get to the final with that quality of play. The luck mostly came from referee decisions going their way even when they were blatantly diving.

DanielGault · 15/07/2024 18:35

WithACatLikeTread · 15/07/2024 18:25

Bullshit. Most English don't mind and we don't care about the English team being so diverse. It shows how welcoming we are.

But surely you can see from the thread how some people feel they're 'owed' support? That's exactly the kind of attitude that switches the rest of us off. I always started the matches supporting England but by roughly half time I switched because the commentators were so insufferable. It's not a dislike of English people, rather the OTT coverage of the football team.