Page 15 | To NOT support England ???

Rizzola95 · 15/07/2024 19:01

"No, the football didn’t colonise or subjugate anyone, but a lot of the fans still demonstrate the same triumphalism that went with it - as do the media. The fans also tend to cause trouble and behave rather obnoxiously wherever they go. It’s bad enough when they're not even playing great and just scraping by, so it would be quite unbearable if they did win something (as 1966 has proved)."

God it's all so petty. As someone who doesn't support football, all countries fans sound the same, cheering singing and hyping themselves and eachother up. Personally I think it's nice to see, usually people are so negative and dreary and it's nice to see some positivity, excitement and hope. How is 1966 annoying? They clearly know it was a very long time ago and are being self deprecating and tongue in cheek. The songs are hopeful. It's lovely seeing people like this. And I've no doubt that every country has fans the same, you just don't see or hear from them as much if you don't share their country. It's only ever applied negatively to English fans.

LivelyBlake · 15/07/2024 19:01

Shaketherombooga · 15/07/2024 15:47

I support Team GB all day long.

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Why? You know, OP, you don’t have to support a national team that’s not yours.

OneTC · 15/07/2024 19:00

DanielGault · 15/07/2024 18:55

Nobody's blaming the team though!

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Aside from the ones that clearly are though? Beige, boring, shit at football etc

WithACatLikeTread · 15/07/2024 19:00

So if it is the media people take unbridge with and rightly so why do so many post xenophobic posts against the English?The media is not our fault and I was thinking "calm it down a bit".

DanielGault · 15/07/2024 18:59

Goldenbear · 15/07/2024 18:56

You do realise the team were actually supporters of football and are don’t you, why are they any different?

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I don't understand your point here, sorry.

DanielGault · 15/07/2024 18:58

Rizzola95 · 15/07/2024 18:51

You didn't disagree with anything I actually said though @DanielGault and you didn't explain anything either. You proposed that I thought people should support a football team. I didn't say anything like that. The actual point of my post went over your head.

No idea why you feel I owe you an explanation? My posts are very clear.

WithACatLikeTread · 15/07/2024 18:57

Goldenbear · 15/07/2024 18:55

Despite this though the England team is much more diverse than the Scottish, and Welsh and the Irish as are the supporters which you would know if you visited and supported any London teams.

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We are apparently racist though but if I were non white I know where I would like to live.

Not just London. All over the country.

Goldenbear · 15/07/2024 18:56

DanielGault · 15/07/2024 18:55

Nobody's blaming the team though!

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You do realise the team were actually supporters of football and are don’t you, why are they any different?

Goldenbear · 15/07/2024 18:55

Clarabell77 · 15/07/2024 18:48

No, the football didn’t colonise or subjugate anyone, but a lot of the fans still demonstrate the same triumphalism that went with it - as do the media. The fans also tend to cause trouble and behave rather obnoxiously wherever they go. It’s bad enough when they're not even playing great and just scraping by, so it would be quite unbearable if they did win something (as 1966 has proved).

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Despite this though the England team is much more diverse than the Scottish, and Welsh and the Irish as are the supporters which you would know if you visited and supported any London teams.

DanielGault · 15/07/2024 18:55

GreyBlackLove · 15/07/2024 18:54

I'm not from England, but am from the UK and did hope they'd win.

Can understand the frustration with English media coverage, but I don't think you can really blame the team or fans for that since it's a regular thing regardless of the sport...and Three Lions On The Shirt is undeniably a catchy tune 😂

Nobody's blaming the team though!

DanielGault · 15/07/2024 18:54

Goldenbear · 15/07/2024 18:51

My friend is Spanish, living in London and believe me the Spanish press were just as vocal about it- it was the final of course they are. England’s fate throughout the tournament is always going to be well covered in the press as it has a huge population compared to Scotland and Wales and many clubs that are playing at championship level compared to Scotland and Wales. It is not exactly a surprise!

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It's not the fact that they cover it. It's the fact that they blow everything up out of all proportion. Not the team or the manager, but the press is woeful for it. Every single time.

GreyBlackLove · 15/07/2024 18:54

I'm not from England, but am from the UK and did hope they'd win.

Can understand the frustration with English media coverage, but I don't think you can really blame the team or fans for that since it's a regular thing regardless of the sport...and Three Lions On The Shirt is undeniably a catchy tune 😂

WithACatLikeTread · 15/07/2024 18:54

Curious why you are not keen to say the nationality?

OneTC · 15/07/2024 18:52

C) Giving a damn about their national sports team/s!

But you do though, you seem to care a lot

Notreat · 15/07/2024 18:52

I'm English and I don't support them. It's not compulsory though it does sometimes seem to be. Apparently a You Gov poll showed about 50% of people in England didn't care who won. I think the media hype up the interest.

Goldenbear · 15/07/2024 18:51

DanielGault · 15/07/2024 18:43

It's not just sour grapes, it's a rational reaction to the OTT way the British media goes on about the team. Of course people laugh at it. It's cringe worthy. The general population doesn't seem to carry on like that, but I'm looking at the news, so getting a small sample.

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My friend is Spanish, living in London and believe me the Spanish press were just as vocal about it- it was the final of course they are. England’s fate throughout the tournament is always going to be well covered in the press as it has a huge population compared to Scotland and Wales and many clubs that are playing at championship level compared to Scotland and Wales. It is not exactly a surprise!

Rizzola95 · 15/07/2024 18:51

You didn't disagree with anything I actually said though @DanielGault and you didn't explain anything either. You proposed that I thought people should support a football team. I didn't say anything like that. The actual point of my post went over your head.

Angeljayne · 15/07/2024 18:50

Fecking hell it's like kids bickering in a playground. My mum is better than your mum. Grow up.

Idontpostmuch · 15/07/2024 18:49

@Shaketherombooga Haha are you by any chance scottish? Supporting the opposition's a national sport, Having said that, England have done brilliantly.

DanielGault · 15/07/2024 18:49

Clarabell77 · 15/07/2024 18:48

No, the football didn’t colonise or subjugate anyone, but a lot of the fans still demonstrate the same triumphalism that went with it - as do the media. The fans also tend to cause trouble and behave rather obnoxiously wherever they go. It’s bad enough when they're not even playing great and just scraping by, so it would be quite unbearable if they did win something (as 1966 has proved).

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Ain't that the truth!

Clarabell77 · 15/07/2024 18:48

lemonmeringueno3 · 15/07/2024 18:42

In my place of work, we have a Spanish national who obviously supported Spain. We also had lots of discussion about how Spain were the stronger team and deserved to win. So I think we were grown-up and subjective about it all.

But then there is just that one twat who bleats on about 'supporting the other team on principle' and came in laughing about it.

I think being known for anti-English sentiment, especially among co-workers who you presumably want to get along with, is not particularly big or clever. The football didn't colonise or subjugate anyone and neither did their fans. It particularly rankles if the person being loudly and aggressively anti-English has chosen to build a life in England because then it's as if they're whining on just to piss people off.

No, the football didn’t colonise or subjugate anyone, but a lot of the fans still demonstrate the same triumphalism that went with it - as do the media. The fans also tend to cause trouble and behave rather obnoxiously wherever they go. It’s bad enough when they're not even playing great and just scraping by, so it would be quite unbearable if they did win something (as 1966 has proved).

DanielGault · 15/07/2024 18:48

Rizzola95 · 15/07/2024 18:46

What is difficult to understand @DanielGault?

Although, reading your posts and seeing how you've completely missed the point of most posts and have convinced yourself that English posters think they are "owed" support, I'm not surprised you don't get the point.

And 'disagrees with' is not the same as ' does not understand '.

DanielGault · 15/07/2024 18:47

Rizzola95 · 15/07/2024 18:46

What is difficult to understand @DanielGault?

Although, reading your posts and seeing how you've completely missed the point of most posts and have convinced yourself that English posters think they are "owed" support, I'm not surprised you don't get the point.

I say anything was difficult to understand. I explained to you what irritated me

WithACatLikeTread · 15/07/2024 18:46

Goldenbear · 15/07/2024 18:43

So you are a self-confessed non football fan and yet you have the knowledge and insight to state they are ‘shit so this is not something you really know is it?

Fine to be a but miserable about it all of course - hope the kebab was nice.

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Quite a few plastic football fans on here isn't there?. England are currently 5th in the world rankings.

Rizzola95 · 15/07/2024 18:46

What is difficult to understand @DanielGault?

Although, reading your posts and seeing how you've completely missed the point of most posts and have convinced yourself that English posters think they are "owed" support, I'm not surprised you don't get the point.