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To NOT support England ???

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Shaketherombooga · 15/07/2024 11:49

I’m not English. I have lived in England for a very long time. I do not support the England football team, I frequently support their opposition!

Colleague has taken the England loss hard, and said ‘ I bet you’re glad they lost’ - I replied that I was essentially a neutral but thought Spain deserved the win.

Hes gone off in a big old rant about how if I live here I should be supporting England teams etc.
I think he should have a wee lie down and chill out!

YABU - you SHOULD support the team of a country you’ve made a life in - even if you are from a former colony of that country

YANBU - of course you don’t have to support a national team that’s not yours

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Rainbowsponge · 15/07/2024 19:40

DanielGault · 15/07/2024 19:39

I assume the slave trade involvement was tangled up with the English but feel free to educate me. As to the rest of our sins, they are indeed hideous, but it's pretty nasty to bring them up on a thread about football. Whatever makes you feel better though.

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I was responding not only to being directly asked but also to OP’s post about all her grievances with English history and why that’s related to her hatred of the football team Confused

www.historyireland.com/clean-hands-ireland-slavery-and-the-slave-trade/

Rizzola95 · 15/07/2024 19:40

"I haven't, no. Because why should I trawl through the posts and quote them? I think I've made it very obvious what my thoughts are. You can accept them or take offence. Up to you."

@DanielGault

Daniel Daniel Daniel. you replied to my post. You replied to my post supposing something I hadn't said (I mean, not even close to anything I said).
Stop telling me you're disagreeing with me when you're not then 😄 and I'm not offended, like I said I was pointing out that you'd misrepresented my post.

You're definitely on the wind up.

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Shaketherombooga · 15/07/2024 19:40

lolly792 · 15/07/2024 19:38

Chill OP. We all know none of this is real!

It’s only a game!

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Shaketherombooga · 15/07/2024 19:39

Goldenbear · 15/07/2024 19:34

Goodness me you are affronted by everything as they play for England and the OP said they were neutral about the tournament- they quite evidently aren’t!

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Not really minding who wins doesn’t mean you aren’t interested in the quality of the game or the football played… what a weird comment…

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DanielGault · 15/07/2024 19:39

Rainbowsponge · 15/07/2024 19:35

Their involvement with the slave trade, the appalling way in which they treated women by locking them away in institutions, and even recent events around misogyny and racism?

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I assume the slave trade involvement was tangled up with the English but feel free to educate me. As to the rest of our sins, they are indeed hideous, but it's pretty nasty to bring them up on a thread about football. Whatever makes you feel better though.

Livelovebehappy · 15/07/2024 19:38

I honestly don’t think people care? My mum hates football - absolutely doesn’t care whether they win or lose. And she’s English. Lots of people don’t care about football. It really is no big deal. Do you think maybe it’s you who’s making it into this big issue, trying to provoke him into a reaction by going on and on about it? I think if I worked with someone, I wouldn’t be actively trying to piss them off over something as trivial as this. Were you bored? Not enough work to do?

lolly792 · 15/07/2024 19:38

Chill OP. We all know none of this is real!

Goldenbear · 15/07/2024 19:37

DanielGault · 15/07/2024 19:36

Goodness me, do you have to be affronted by everything I say? You can just ignore my inane ramblings you know.

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You asked me a question so I thought it deserved a response.

DanielGault · 15/07/2024 19:36

Goldenbear · 15/07/2024 19:34

Goodness me you are affronted by everything as they play for England and the OP said they were neutral about the tournament- they quite evidently aren’t!

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Goodness me, do you have to be affronted by everything I say? You can just ignore my inane ramblings you know.

Rainbowsponge · 15/07/2024 19:35

DanielGault · 15/07/2024 19:32

What past is that?

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Their involvement with the slave trade, the appalling way in which they treated women by locking them away in institutions, and even recent events around misogyny and racism?

Jumpingthruhoops · 15/07/2024 19:34

Leah5678 · 15/07/2024 12:05

"I frequently support their opposition" why? You sound assy. It's one thing to not care about football or to think Spain deserved to win because they played well. But seeing as you've asked yeah I'd say you sound annoying. Why did you choose to move here and live here so long if you feel this way?

100% this! 👏👏

Rizzola95 · 15/07/2024 19:34

"If you’re hoping to get me deported I can assure you that I am legally fine to be living in London!"

wtf are you talking about @Shaketherombooga 😆😆😆
I'm getting serious second hand embarrassment for you, you spent a good portion of the day posting on MN about an imaginary scenario. Invented to incite hateful comments..how much energy do you expel thinking about this shite and how miserable does it make you?
On the contrary, I have enjoyed the atmosphere of all the fans (regardless of nationality) and have felt really positive and happy despite not being a fan. All the England fans I spoke to today have been happy and positive about the achievements of their team. Sucks to be you ig 😉

Goldenbear · 15/07/2024 19:34

DanielGault · 15/07/2024 19:30

Why do they have to be 'neutral' over the performances of Kane and Southgate?

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Goodness me you are affronted by everything as they play for England and the OP said they were neutral about the tournament- they quite evidently aren’t!

DanielGault · 15/07/2024 19:32

Rainbowsponge · 15/07/2024 19:31

And what about Ireland’s past? Should you be blamed for that in the present day?

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What past is that?

Rainbowsponge · 15/07/2024 19:31

Shaketherombooga · 15/07/2024 19:28

That the problem with your colonial past, left the door open for other people to come back to England legally… bit rich moaning about it now!

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And what about Ireland’s past? Should you be blamed for that in the present day?

Gorgonemilezola · 15/07/2024 19:31

Support who you like, OP, but perhaps don't be a gobshite about it, eh.

Jumpingthruhoops · 15/07/2024 19:31

Willoo · 15/07/2024 12:00

I’ve lived in England over twenty years. My husband and son are English. I still don’t and never will, support England. Everyone at work knows this and we get along great. We have a lot of banter about it. I’m not back in work until Tuesday and I can’t wait.

Not supporting England AND being vocal about supporting a rival national team - IN England - are two completely different things. You know that, right?

user1471453601 · 15/07/2024 19:30

I have neither the time nor, I'm afraid, the life expectancy to go through all the posts.

but I do have a view on the opening post. I'm born and bred English. I love football. Or, rather, I love the football club I support. I don't give a fuck about England. I have no ill will towards them , I just don't care.

I'm my view, the only reason to watch an England match is to see if any player from my club gets injured.

and, really a team that gets out of its group with one win and two draws is going to win? Well, I guess anything is possible. But Spain was by far the better team.

DanielGault · 15/07/2024 19:30

Goldenbear · 15/07/2024 19:28

Really demonstrating neutrality here aren’t you.

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Why do they have to be 'neutral' over the performances of Kane and Southgate?

Goldenbear · 15/07/2024 19:28

Shaketherombooga · 15/07/2024 19:27

Harry Kane’s gone. Southgate too probably. You can keep doing the same thing over and over and expect a different outcome.

Really demonstrating neutrality here aren’t you.

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Shaketherombooga · 15/07/2024 19:28

Jumpingthruhoops · 15/07/2024 19:25

This. I actually think it's exactly this attitude among some who migrate here that pisses a lot of natives off.

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That the problem with your colonial past, left the door open for other people to come back to England legally… bit rich moaning about it now!

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Rainbowsponge · 15/07/2024 19:28

Shaketherombooga · 15/07/2024 18:06

To be clear I like living where I live I’m just not a supporter of the England football team!
it is possible to live in a country while not thinking A) it’s perfect B) changing nationality C) Giving a damn about their national sports team/s!

But you said it went much further than that and is about the famine, Palestine and Northern Ireland?

Look, you’re being cowardly here. Stop making bold statements then attempting to row back on them, say your piece and stand by it.

DanielGault · 15/07/2024 19:28

Shaketherombooga · 15/07/2024 19:27

Harry Kane’s gone. Southgate too probably. You can keep doing the same thing over and over and expect a different outcome.

Harry was not at his best at all.

DanielGault · 15/07/2024 19:27

Rizzola95 · 15/07/2024 19:24

Agree with what @DanielGault? You haven't mentioned anything that I have actually said to either agree or disagree.

I haven't, no. Because why should I trawl through the posts and quote them? I think I've made it very obvious what my thoughts are. You can accept them or take offence. Up to you.

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Shaketherombooga · 15/07/2024 19:27

Harry Kane’s gone. Southgate too probably. You can keep doing the same thing over and over and expect a different outcome.

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