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To NOT support England ???

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Shaketherombooga · 15/07/2024 11:49

I’m not English. I have lived in England for a very long time. I do not support the England football team, I frequently support their opposition!

Colleague has taken the England loss hard, and said ‘ I bet you’re glad they lost’ - I replied that I was essentially a neutral but thought Spain deserved the win.

Hes gone off in a big old rant about how if I live here I should be supporting England teams etc.
I think he should have a wee lie down and chill out!

YABU - you SHOULD support the team of a country you’ve made a life in - even if you are from a former colony of that country

YANBU - of course you don’t have to support a national team that’s not yours

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Rainbowsponge · 15/07/2024 20:17

wellington77 · 15/07/2024 20:16

I do find it a bit silly when people have that mentality “ anyone but England” if you see England and the people as the former colony and colonisers then there must be some sort of hatred there and I don’t get why would you live there? Are you just using it for economic reasons? You can support who you want but find it odd why you wouldn’t. Also you do realise that unless your really old no English person was involved in Empire. Most of the country were dirt poor anyways when it was going on.

Well, this is it - OP is very happy to profit from a country built on things she apparently finds reprehensible. Worse than English people who live here because they have no choice in family ties!

DanielGault · 15/07/2024 20:17

Rizzola95 · 15/07/2024 20:14

"No, I won't thanks. I feel quite comfortable in my choices in who I support from game to game. And as I explained, it's the media that irritate me enough to stop me supporting England. Not the people, or the team or the manager."

I give up 😁 I can't tell whether you're deliberately missing the point or if you're just on the wind up here but you carry on and support whatever team you like and cheer them on to your little hearts content.

Oh, thanks. I was waiting for your permission. In case it has escaped your attention, I disagree with you. So I don't need persuading. You don't need to 'give up'. You can just go away.

wellington77 · 15/07/2024 20:16

I do find it a bit silly when people have that mentality “ anyone but England” if you see England and the people as the former colony and colonisers then there must be some sort of hatred there and I don’t get why would you live there? Are you just using it for economic reasons? You can support who you want but find it odd why you wouldn’t. Also you do realise that unless your really old no English person was involved in Empire. Most of the country were dirt poor anyways when it was going on.

WithACatLikeTread · 15/07/2024 20:16

Shaketherombooga · 15/07/2024 20:11

‘I don't mind banter but some stuff has been proper hatred particularly from Scots.’

Oh poor little England, are the mean Scots not being nice?? Have you tried saying ‘Stop it, I don’t like it’?? 😂

Are you six?

NooNakedJacuzziness · 15/07/2024 20:15

Shaketherombooga · 15/07/2024 20:13

Well, it’s not come home. It wasn’t coming home. It’s unlikely to come home anytime soon for the Men’s team.
But at least we have teams like Spain to watch and show the rest of us how to actually play football

😆 what a productive day you've had and you're still going, absolutely batshit.

Rainbowsponge · 15/07/2024 20:15

Shaketherombooga · 15/07/2024 20:13

Well, it’s not come home. It wasn’t coming home. It’s unlikely to come home anytime soon for the Men’s team.
But at least we have teams like Spain to watch and show the rest of us how to actually play football

Well we wouldn’t watch Ireland for that, that’s for sure

WithACatLikeTread · 15/07/2024 20:14

Shaketherombooga · 15/07/2024 20:13

Well, it’s not come home. It wasn’t coming home. It’s unlikely to come home anytime soon for the Men’s team.
But at least we have teams like Spain to watch and show the rest of us how to actually play football

Don't you need to understand the rules first??

Liv999 · 15/07/2024 20:14

WingSluts · 15/07/2024 12:08

But they are a good team. Or do you get to the final on a rotation basis now? Win a raffle? Draw straws?

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They're an OK team but they're not world class, a lot of the players completely over rated like Kane and Bellingham, they were never going to beat Spain in fairness

Rizzola95 · 15/07/2024 20:14

"No, I won't thanks. I feel quite comfortable in my choices in who I support from game to game. And as I explained, it's the media that irritate me enough to stop me supporting England. Not the people, or the team or the manager."

I give up 😁 I can't tell whether you're deliberately missing the point or if you're just on the wind up here but you carry on and support whatever team you like and cheer them on to your little hearts content.

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Shaketherombooga · 15/07/2024 20:13

Well, it’s not come home. It wasn’t coming home. It’s unlikely to come home anytime soon for the Men’s team.
But at least we have teams like Spain to watch and show the rest of us how to actually play football

OP posts:
whereaw · 15/07/2024 20:13

It's a shame your home team aren't better and then this wouldn't be such a problem for you to contend with.

lolly792 · 15/07/2024 20:13

Decided on a nationality yet OP?

Rainbowsponge · 15/07/2024 20:12

Shaketherombooga · 15/07/2024 20:11

‘I don't mind banter but some stuff has been proper hatred particularly from Scots.’

Oh poor little England, are the mean Scots not being nice?? Have you tried saying ‘Stop it, I don’t like it’?? 😂

The fact your thread is still standing with few deletions is testament to the English! If this was about Ireland/Scotland, it would’ve been zapped in seconds.

Jumpingthruhoops · 15/07/2024 20:12

Shaketherombooga · 15/07/2024 19:28

That the problem with your colonial past, left the door open for other people to come back to England legally… bit rich moaning about it now!

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Wow! You really are a peach, aren't you?
I can totally see how you piss off your colleague - and not just when it comes to football...

DanielGault · 15/07/2024 20:11

Buddysbunda · 15/07/2024 20:11

It's on the list as soon as I finish reading the Daily Mail to learn about my culture.

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😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Goldenbear · 15/07/2024 20:11

Buddysbunda · 15/07/2024 20:02

I'm not sure what 'odd notions' of English people and English culture you got from my post tbh but as an English person who lives in Ireland I'm will to listen to your pov about the 'odd notions' that I seemingly have about myself.

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The indignation is a fallacy though, seen as many people just don’t care as they have a diverse heritage with friends who are the same, it is ridiculous to make out they do care as much as you say they do. They are excited about getting through to the final of a major tournament as I am sure Irish fans would be if they did the same. I don’t think I’ve heard once anyone say in pubs when watching the football or friends barbecues watching the football, ‘is anyone really pissed off about the Irish winding us up about our quality of play or losing to the Spanish’; sorry but it doesn’t even feature on their radar. Maybe, in different circles or different parts of the country but I’m in the south east and it is not even mentioned.

Buddysbunda · 15/07/2024 20:11

DanielGault · 15/07/2024 20:03

Get back to yer Morris dancing will ya 😂

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It's on the list as soon as I finish reading the Daily Mail to learn about my culture.

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Shaketherombooga · 15/07/2024 20:11

‘I don't mind banter but some stuff has been proper hatred particularly from Scots.’

Oh poor little England, are the mean Scots not being nice?? Have you tried saying ‘Stop it, I don’t like it’?? 😂

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Rizzola95 · 15/07/2024 20:10

" I was merely pointing out that England has been fucking up politically all over the world as recently as the 20th Century."

Do you mean Britain @Shaketherombooga? Scottish and Welsh people don't like it when people replace Britain with England 😉

And yes, Britain has a long and often brutal past. But you understand that there is a big world out there and only acknowledging the history of one country is pretty ignorant. Particularly considering it's regularly used to justify xenophobia. It's also very very silly attempting to apply it to people who hold no accountability.

DanielGault · 15/07/2024 20:06

Rizzola95 · 15/07/2024 20:03

"there have been some strange attitudes on this thread and they do get your back up tbh."

Yes there have been and they do get your back up. But when it does get our backs up people use it as an excuse to accuse us of "expecting everyone to support England"
Maybe reflect on that 😆

No, I won't thanks. I feel quite comfortable in my choices in who I support from game to game. And as I explained, it's the media that irritate me enough to stop me supporting England. Not the people, or the team or the manager.

Rainbowsponge · 15/07/2024 20:05

Livelovebehappy · 15/07/2024 20:04

Absolutely! We are very welcoming. 🙂

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Didn’t Irish women used to flee to England to avoid extreme misogynist treatment as recently as the 1980s? Sad

Livelovebehappy · 15/07/2024 20:04

WithACatLikeTread · 15/07/2024 19:56

We are genuinely very welcoming! Hence why English people are so diverse.

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Absolutely! We are very welcoming. 🙂

Rizzola95 · 15/07/2024 20:03

"there have been some strange attitudes on this thread and they do get your back up tbh."

Yes there have been and they do get your back up. But when it does get our backs up people use it as an excuse to accuse us of "expecting everyone to support England"
Maybe reflect on that 😆

DanielGault · 15/07/2024 20:03

Buddysbunda · 15/07/2024 20:02

I'm not sure what 'odd notions' of English people and English culture you got from my post tbh but as an English person who lives in Ireland I'm will to listen to your pov about the 'odd notions' that I seemingly have about myself.

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Get back to yer Morris dancing will ya 😂

Buddysbunda · 15/07/2024 20:02

Goldenbear · 15/07/2024 19:51

I think there are some odd notions of ‘English people’ and ‘English culture’ and a real misunderstanding as to how diverse England is. I was born in London, grew up in London and went to school with people with such a rich heritage that’s just a laughable notion that we are all Morris dancers and that we don’t understand difference and can’t accept it. People just read too many Daily Mail articles and come up with these completely inaccurate prejudices.

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I'm not sure what 'odd notions' of English people and English culture you got from my post tbh but as an English person who lives in Ireland I'm will to listen to your pov about the 'odd notions' that I seemingly have about myself.

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