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AIBU to not leave the GP without antibiotics

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Turtlegurl888 · 15/07/2024 07:51

I suspect I have bacterial tonsillitis. I've had a raging fever of between 39 and 40 even when maxxing out the daily allowance of paracetamol and ibuprofen. I can hardly open my mouth or turn my head/neck. My glands are like painful golf balls. Yesterday and the day before, my tonsils were covered in white and yellow patches, but that seems to have lessened today. I was awake every hour last night in sheer agony. I don't know how else to describe this pain. It's like being stabbed in the throat and neck. This started on Friday and its been worse every day since. I can't even speak today.

I have had tonsillitis MANY times, I'd venture to say on at least 100 times throughout my childhood, I really suffered. This feels different. The pain is next level. I can't eat or even drink. I am forcing myself to sip water but I'm screaming internally every time I have to swallow.

I know the Dr will say its viral and to wait it out but I can't. I need something. I have my 15 month old all week with no childcare or another adults help and I'm not going to be able to cope like this. Can I be like, I'm not leaving until I have antibiotics? Or at least a swab test for bacterial? I'm usually a massive pushover and willing to accept a doctor knows more than I do but it's so bad I think I need to stand up for myself.

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Nannyfannybanny · 15/07/2024 08:29

You could try and get a consult in a pharmacy first,see what they say
I was "prescribed" hydrogen peroxide diluted as a mouthwash by dentist for soft gums. Used to use it in the ED for cleaning out open wounds.

Turtlegurl888 · 15/07/2024 08:29

Clearly you lot have more effective GPs than I do! I've been meaning to switch for months and haven't gotten around to it. I've called them 278 times since 8am and constantly engaged so not sure I'll be seeing anyone today regardless. Thanks for helpful comments.

I assume they will say it is viral because they always do. My son had a bacterial infection a few months back and was ill for weeks until they finally conceded and gave antibiotics after which he miraculously recovered. I totally understand antibiotic resistance. However, the last time I had antibiotics, I was about 4, so I feel like I've done my bit for humanity (I am only joking, I know it doesn't work like that)

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FloofPaws · 15/07/2024 08:28

Also ask for pain meds. I hope your child is in nursery so you can get some rest
Good luck ... and tell the GP about the spots as that's often the marker

NotSorry · 15/07/2024 08:28

Mine wasn’t tonsillitis but when I phoned they said there were no appointments. When I said I couldn’t eat or drink (I couldn’t, my mouth was a festering mess of sores) they got me in sharpish and gave me the appropriate medication. Make sure they know you can’t swallow

MrsPelligrinoPetrichor · 15/07/2024 08:28

You have no idea what the GP will say.

OoodlesofNoodles · 15/07/2024 08:27

I also hope you feel better soon as it's sounds miserable!

OoodlesofNoodles · 15/07/2024 08:26

The assumption that the GP will just disregard your symptoms/pain and you will have to beg for antibiotics is astounding, get in there and see then and give them a chance first!!

wippandzipp · 15/07/2024 08:24

It could be strep throat, a bacteria, and antibiotics will be prescribed.

user1471538275 · 15/07/2024 08:24

You could use pharmacy 1st to assess you.

https://www.england.nhs.uk/primary-care/pharmacy/pharmacy-services/pharmacy-first/

If you meet the clinical threshold for treatment then they can prescribe.

Demanding a particular treatment never goes well - especially when you do not know whether it is viral or bacterial.

Requesting a swab for microbiology seems a very fair request and will identify the bacteria if it is bacterial. It will take a few days for the results though.

Most tonsillitis is viral and gets better on it's own in a week. Height of fever is not relevant to bacterial/viral differentiation.

We should all be very worried about the overuse of antibiotics and resistance, but it's fair to say that the use in livestock is a bigger issue.

NHS England » Pharmacy First

https://www.england.nhs.uk/primary-care/pharmacy/pharmacy-services/pharmacy-first

Bollockybollocky · 15/07/2024 08:24

BlahBlahBaa · 15/07/2024 08:12

OMG do NOT pour a bleaching agent down your throat!! Insane advice.

Not insane. It just has to be properly diluted.

SavetheNHS · 15/07/2024 08:22

Your GP is the expert, if it looks bacterial (tell them about the white spots) they will give antibiotics.

You say this throat pain is on a different level, I too have had tonsillitis++ through my life. I had the worst tonsil/throat pain a few weeks ago, with a fever. I tested and it was Covid. Might be worth testing. I bought some local anaesthetic throat spray as I couldn't cope with the pain.

This is a known symptom of covid so worth considering.
Either way, I hope you feel better soon.

DodoTired · 15/07/2024 08:20

Can’t you now get antibiotics prescribed by a pharmacist?

Catza · 15/07/2024 08:17

BlahBlahBaa · 15/07/2024 08:12

OMG do NOT pour a bleaching agent down your throat!! Insane advice.

Hydrogen peroxide is widely used on many tissues during surgery. It's not insane, just needs to be properly diluted.

borntobequiet · 15/07/2024 08:15

If you’ve got all the sympotoms of a bacterial infection, as you describe, the doctor will probably give you antibiotics. Why would you assume otherwise?

Catza · 15/07/2024 08:14

You can threaten all you like but if the GP deems it is likely to be a viral infection, they should not be prescribing you antibiotics. Ask for a swab, although things are likely to improve by the time the results come anyway.

BlahBlahBaa · 15/07/2024 08:12

JanefromLondon1 · 15/07/2024 08:09

Get some hydrogen peroxide from the chemist. Dilute as per instructions and gargle. If it fizzes up in your throat it's the bacteria oxidising and dying.

Had mine out eventually as antibiotics didn't work in the end and I got it each month with period and this method did clear it up.

OMG do NOT pour a bleaching agent down your throat!! Insane advice.

guivdsfhub · 15/07/2024 08:11

You can use online pharmacies such as Superdrug/boots and they will prescribe you antibiotics and you can pick them a couple of hours later or they will post them to you next day delivery.

Poppet77 · 15/07/2024 08:11

Antibiotics only work on bacterial infections and will do nothing to destroy/remove a viral infection. If you do not have a bacterial infection, then antibiotics would be useless. Incorrectly prescribing antibiotics in this way contributes to the overuse of antibiotics and encourages and speeds up the antibiotic resistance process, rendering the antibiotic eventually ineffective at treating anybody. This is one of the biggest health issues of today: bacteria are developing resistance to antibiotics at a faster rate than new ones can be created. Unless we use them appropriately, diseases that were once killers and then became curable by antibiotics, will once again be untreatable. Obviously, if antibiotics will help cure you, it sounds like you need them. But if you have a viral strain of tonsillitis, they wont help and it would be negligent of any GP to prescribe them knowing they wouldn't help. I hope you get better soon.

JanefromLondon1 · 15/07/2024 08:09

Get some hydrogen peroxide from the chemist. Dilute as per instructions and gargle. If it fizzes up in your throat it's the bacteria oxidising and dying.

Had mine out eventually as antibiotics didn't work in the end and I got it each month with period and this method did clear it up.

Wordsmithery · 15/07/2024 08:03

It's a tricky one. If it's viral, antibiotics won't help and you'll be taking a medicine that isn't good for your body. Usually my doc gives me a prescription and tells me to wait a day before going ahead with treatment, but you may not be able to wait that long.

OneSharpGoose · 15/07/2024 07:59

So sorry you feel so unwell. It's awful for you with childcare to worry about as there's no break however poorly you feel. I've been there so my heart goes out to you. If the GP says it's viral then antibiotics will not help but it does sound like full on tonsillitis though I'm not a GP. Just a mother of a DS who has tonsillitis at least 3 times a year and always v ill with it ( and 42 years old,). To help himself he uses an antiseptic spray on his throat and lots of ice-cream or iced water. Rest when you can and sip fluids through a straw if necessary. Good luck at GP .

TurtleTackle · 15/07/2024 07:58

Has the doctor mentioned glandular fever in which case they shouldn't give you antibiotics for that but should offer alternative treatment also would need to swab to rule it out because that sounds like it is bacterial and would need antibiotics with a temperature that high.

fatphalange · 15/07/2024 07:58

Why would you think your GP will say it's viral? And why assume he will withhold treatment?