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To find the Ambani wedding distasteful

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Soonenough · 14/07/2024 21:06

I know everyone can do what they like , it's their money . But such an extravagant event in a place where a large proportion of the population live in slum conditions is rather unsettling.? Plus the bride is stunning but the groom unfortunately does not come across as an individual with a lot

of intelligence . Before I get flamed , he and his family are encouraging the public to view them and I guess are expecting admiration.

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Grammarnut · 18/07/2024 15:59

Kinshipug · 18/07/2024 12:18

Why "particularly in India"?
Do other rich people get a free pass because they're a bit further away from abject poverty? Hoarding wealth is fine as long as you can't actually see the poor people?

It would be just as tone-deaf if it was taking place in many South American countries. The poverty of the favelas is just as great as that of the shanty towns of Mumbai.

Gladtobeout · 18/07/2024 15:44

"It's racist to tell someone they are racist because of their comment on MN about someone's wedding, btw."

Ah! You're one of those! Got it.

Gladtobeout · 18/07/2024 15:41

You really are clutching at straws there...

TakeMe2Insanity · 18/07/2024 15:41

Soonenough · 18/07/2024 14:41

I started this thread and it has evolved into very distinct categories. Unfortunately the poor will always be with us in every civilization . Individually we can only do so much but to try to be aware and compassionate . The vulgar display of wealth and all the participants like Boris and performers who took the money should be ashamed . There is no comparison to an extravagant wedding in any culture .Others have had extravagant events but didnt open it to social media or pay so called celebrities to attend . It was a display of obscene wealth juxtaposed next to some of the most poverty stricken in the world , specifically in Mumbai . Are the Ambani displaying this to share their joy in the marriage? My arse. Vulgar, tone deaf display in order to portray their power and position .

I read a stat somewhere that basically said it was the world’s cheapest wedding in that it only cost 0.05% of their wealth.

Grammarnut · 18/07/2024 15:38

ThisDaringGoldHedgehog · 18/07/2024 07:03

Not sure what you’re trying to say here?? The comparison is that they spent their own money but people are freaking out yet there wasn’t a complaint about the royal wedding when they used our tax money. There is a huge difference. Of course there is no obligation to invite anyone but they are a powerful family why wouldn’t they invite them? I have no idea what you are mad about?
this whole post and comments stinks of jealousy, and to be honest a bit of racism. Comments about looks and arranged marriages. I was quite shocked to read this all.

Yawn. Royal wedding. Paid for by RF. Security bill - because it's the Head of State and their family present - comes from tax, as would be the case at the wedding of the daughter of POTUS, the President of France etc.

Grammarnut · 18/07/2024 15:37

Gladtobeout · 18/07/2024 12:04

So you haven't even bothered to read the comment you quoted.

How much did you comment on the Gates Wedding? Brooklyn Beckhams wedding? Any other rich-white-person wedding?

You can lie to yourself all you want, but you comment just confirms your racism, or at the very, very, very least and being very generous and forgiving... unconscious bias.

You also know nothing about me whilst accusing me of racism. It was not the colour of the Ambani family that hit me, it was the utter vulgarity. That would be the case whoever they were. It's racist to tell someone they are racist because of their comment on MN about someone's wedding, btw.

Grammarnut · 18/07/2024 15:34

Kinshipug · 18/07/2024 14:54

You can't think of other any extravagant convenings of the rich and famous? Really?
Why is paying Kim Kardashian to attend your wedding any more vulgar than spaffing your cash on a spaceship?

It isn't I daresay. Paying people to attend your wedding is naff, whoever you are (unless they are the band and the caterers, of course).

coxesorangepippin · 18/07/2024 15:34

The Beckhams etc are not in the same league as these people

coxesorangepippin · 18/07/2024 15:33

Had the same reflex here

Grammarnut · 18/07/2024 15:27

Gladtobeout · 18/07/2024 12:04

So you haven't even bothered to read the comment you quoted.

How much did you comment on the Gates Wedding? Brooklyn Beckhams wedding? Any other rich-white-person wedding?

You can lie to yourself all you want, but you comment just confirms your racism, or at the very, very, very least and being very generous and forgiving... unconscious bias.

I did read it. I did not hear about the Gates wedding - didn't make UK news - but had I and my late DH seen it we would have said something about conspicuous consumption (and sarkily 'it's nice to be rich'). But then the Duke of Westminster got married at great personal expense, too. I can't remember the event being splashed all over the news. The coronation (both, the one in Westminster and the bestowing of the Honours of Scotland) were publicised. I did not see that the ceremonial was at all improper, we are enthroning and dedicating to God our head of state and his consort. I did see someone's wedding in Venice and also thought it OTT - might have been a Holywood actor, can't remember, it was tacky. The Gates excepted (poverty in the US is horrendous with people living in their cars and in tents on the streets, and in hovels in the remoter areas of the Apalachians) those weddings and ceremonies too place where the populous in the main is comfortably off and also they are not shoved under our noses.
The Ambani family live in India which has millions in poverty. I have not forgotten the little girl at Mumbai airport who begged me for the few rather bruised bananas I was carrying. I gave them, despite warnings not to, and was immediately besieged. People scour rubbish dumps for living in India, people have no proper sanitation, people get into horrendous debt because of a difficult childbirth - in that context, any display, whoever it was, would be distasteful. Rather like Henry III (1216-1272) holding a feast in London, with magnificent processions etc when the country was in the midst of a famine and there were families on the streets, starving - I have little time for Henry III (a man totally incapable of reading the room), but he was not brown, he was that shade of greyish-brown we call 'white', and I think him one of the worst kings of England ever, I would still think irrespective of his colour.

Kinshipug · 18/07/2024 14:54

Soonenough · 18/07/2024 14:41

I started this thread and it has evolved into very distinct categories. Unfortunately the poor will always be with us in every civilization . Individually we can only do so much but to try to be aware and compassionate . The vulgar display of wealth and all the participants like Boris and performers who took the money should be ashamed . There is no comparison to an extravagant wedding in any culture .Others have had extravagant events but didnt open it to social media or pay so called celebrities to attend . It was a display of obscene wealth juxtaposed next to some of the most poverty stricken in the world , specifically in Mumbai . Are the Ambani displaying this to share their joy in the marriage? My arse. Vulgar, tone deaf display in order to portray their power and position .

You can't think of other any extravagant convenings of the rich and famous? Really?
Why is paying Kim Kardashian to attend your wedding any more vulgar than spaffing your cash on a spaceship?

Soonenough · 18/07/2024 14:41

I started this thread and it has evolved into very distinct categories. Unfortunately the poor will always be with us in every civilization . Individually we can only do so much but to try to be aware and compassionate . The vulgar display of wealth and all the participants like Boris and performers who took the money should be ashamed . There is no comparison to an extravagant wedding in any culture .Others have had extravagant events but didnt open it to social media or pay so called celebrities to attend . It was a display of obscene wealth juxtaposed next to some of the most poverty stricken in the world , specifically in Mumbai . Are the Ambani displaying this to share their joy in the marriage? My arse. Vulgar, tone deaf display in order to portray their power and position .

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OneTC · 18/07/2024 13:52

LoobyDoop2 · 18/07/2024 12:39

How many times have you seen people with visible, visibly untreated disabilities and deformities begging in the streets of European countries? Small children fending for themselves on the streets? Entire families searching for food in rubbish dumps? I’ve never seen any of those things in Europe, despite having lived in the UK for nearly 50 years and having travelled extensively elsewhere. I saw all of them in two weeks in India.

If I spend extravagant money in the UK or America it's better because the poverty is miles away?

MikeRafone · 18/07/2024 13:46

I spent 4 days in Vienna during last winter and there weren’t any beggars in the city or suberbs where I was staying.

Gladtobeout · 18/07/2024 13:07

LoobyDoop2 · 18/07/2024 12:39

How many times have you seen people with visible, visibly untreated disabilities and deformities begging in the streets of European countries? Small children fending for themselves on the streets? Entire families searching for food in rubbish dumps? I’ve never seen any of those things in Europe, despite having lived in the UK for nearly 50 years and having travelled extensively elsewhere. I saw all of them in two weeks in India.

*If you carefully stroll through the streets of Vienna, you will notice that many beggars have physical disabilities. The authorities in Austria are not aware of any forced mutilation by a ‘begging mafia’. Many physically disabled people end up elsewhere due to the inadequate social policies in Eastern European countries. In Romania, for example, there are no appropriate disability facilities or adequate medical and financial support for Roma. Bulgaria is another Eastern European country in which the situation for the physically and mentally disabled is insufficient. People who are physically

Or mentally unable to work will hardly have enough to survive – despite the care allowance they are provided with by the State. For many, begging is the only way to provide for themselves and their families.*

Link: www.hopeforthefuture.at/en/begging-in-austria/

I mean, the human trafficking of disabled adults and children for begging in capital cities all over Europe is pretty well known about.

Kinshipug · 18/07/2024 12:50

LoobyDoop2 · 18/07/2024 12:39

How many times have you seen people with visible, visibly untreated disabilities and deformities begging in the streets of European countries? Small children fending for themselves on the streets? Entire families searching for food in rubbish dumps? I’ve never seen any of those things in Europe, despite having lived in the UK for nearly 50 years and having travelled extensively elsewhere. I saw all of them in two weeks in India.

But why are these particular wealthy people more responsible? You think Elon Musk doesn't know? King Charles has never heard of abject poverty? They're all as bad as each other and all equally as responsible. India is far from the only place with people living in abject poverty.

LoobyDoop2 · 18/07/2024 12:39

How many times have you seen people with visible, visibly untreated disabilities and deformities begging in the streets of European countries? Small children fending for themselves on the streets? Entire families searching for food in rubbish dumps? I’ve never seen any of those things in Europe, despite having lived in the UK for nearly 50 years and having travelled extensively elsewhere. I saw all of them in two weeks in India.

Kinshipug · 18/07/2024 12:31

LoobyDoop2 · 18/07/2024 12:24

“Particularly in India” because the richest can afford to spend hundreds of millions on a party, while the poorest have to exist with degrees of deprivation that are not common elsewhere. As per the hundreds of posts on this thread that you don’t seem to have read.

That doesn't actually answer why "particularly India". As you've just pointed out, we all know that there are poor people.
It is overt racism to hold brown and black people to higher standards than white.

Gladtobeout · 18/07/2024 12:25

LoobyDoop2 · 18/07/2024 12:24

“Particularly in India” because the richest can afford to spend hundreds of millions on a party, while the poorest have to exist with degrees of deprivation that are not common elsewhere. As per the hundreds of posts on this thread that you don’t seem to have read.

Soooo....same as literally any other country in the world (bar Antarctica)

LoobyDoop2 · 18/07/2024 12:24

“Particularly in India” because the richest can afford to spend hundreds of millions on a party, while the poorest have to exist with degrees of deprivation that are not common elsewhere. As per the hundreds of posts on this thread that you don’t seem to have read.

Kinshipug · 18/07/2024 12:18

LoobyDoop2 · 18/07/2024 12:13

This. It’s not about the wedding, it’s about what the astronomical cost of it says about the enormous level of inequality that exists. Particularly in India, whether people like to hear that or not.

Why "particularly in India"?
Do other rich people get a free pass because they're a bit further away from abject poverty? Hoarding wealth is fine as long as you can't actually see the poor people?

LoobyDoop2 · 18/07/2024 12:13

AutismHelp1980 · 18/07/2024 08:25

@Walkaround

You raise an important distinction about the symbolism behind such lavish spending. The Royal Family, whether we agree with it or not, represents the UK and its traditions. Their weddings, funded partially by taxpayers (private money is used) are national events that carry national significance and are intended to reflect the country's heritage on the world stage. Therefore the expenditure is balanced by the goodwill/income/tourism generated.

In contrast, the Ambani wedding is a display of private wealth and power in a country where millions live in poverty. This is not just about how much was spent, but what it represents. The Ambani family doesn't have the same public role or responsibilities as a royal family. Their spending is a statement of personal power and influence without the same level of accountability or public benefit.

The criticism is not about jealousy or racism, but about the stark economic inequality it highlights. In a nation with significant poverty, such ostentatious displays of wealth can be seen as insensitive and tone-deaf. It raises questions about the social responsibilities of the ultra-wealthy and the impact of such disparities on society.

So, the issue is not whether it's "nobody's business" how they spend their money, but what this level of extravagance says about social and economic priorities in a country where many lack basic necessities.

This. It’s not about the wedding, it’s about what the astronomical cost of it says about the enormous level of inequality that exists. Particularly in India, whether people like to hear that or not.

Gladtobeout · 18/07/2024 12:04

Grammarnut · 18/07/2024 11:55

I would bat an eye if such an extravaganza was on display anywhere, especially where nearly half the population lives in dire poverty - not just the relative poverty of the UK. Acquit me of racism and the politics of envy, also. It is just so OTT and tasteless.

So you haven't even bothered to read the comment you quoted.

How much did you comment on the Gates Wedding? Brooklyn Beckhams wedding? Any other rich-white-person wedding?

You can lie to yourself all you want, but you comment just confirms your racism, or at the very, very, very least and being very generous and forgiving... unconscious bias.

Grammarnut · 18/07/2024 11:55

Gladtobeout · 18/07/2024 11:53

UK:

Poverty has increased, close to pre-pandemic levels

More than 1 in 5 people in the UK (22%) were in poverty in 2021/22 – 14.4 million people.23 Jan 2024

India:

According to research by the State Bank of India, released in February 2024, the poverty rate in the country fell to 4.5-5 percent in 2022-23.

The Ambanis donated £66 mil in 2020 as well as funding the initial COVID response.

Now, please do tell me how this thread is not a racist rant from most of you, and how if this family were a rich white family of similar standing, you would be posting the same comments. If Bill Gates spent this amount on his children's wedding, no one would bat an eye.

*"Pictures of the marriage of Bill and Melinda Gates’ eldest daughter, Jennifer, and her equestrian sweetheart, Nayel Nassar, emerged this week and they paint a picture of a lavish farm wedding set amongst the autumn leaves.

Reports this week suggest the pair’s 300 guests were treated to two ceremonies, a lavish brunch and a performance from Coldplay - as long as they’d had the vaccine and tested negative for Covid.

According to the bride herself, the star-studded three-day event felt like an “otherworldly fairyale”, with decadent white floral decorations, hanging yellow lights and a roster of celebrity wedding planners behind the venue, food and drink."*

Do you not think a 3 day "white wedding" (unlike a traditional Indian wedding) is absurd? Or hiring a famous band? Multiple outfits?

No. It's just when brown people do it that it's a problem.

I would bat an eye if such an extravaganza was on display anywhere, especially where nearly half the population lives in dire poverty - not just the relative poverty of the UK. Acquit me of racism and the politics of envy, also. It is just so OTT and tasteless.

Gladtobeout · 18/07/2024 11:53

UK:

Poverty has increased, close to pre-pandemic levels

More than 1 in 5 people in the UK (22%) were in poverty in 2021/22 – 14.4 million people.23 Jan 2024

India:

According to research by the State Bank of India, released in February 2024, the poverty rate in the country fell to 4.5-5 percent in 2022-23.

The Ambanis donated £66 mil in 2020 as well as funding the initial COVID response.

Now, please do tell me how this thread is not a racist rant from most of you, and how if this family were a rich white family of similar standing, you would be posting the same comments. If Bill Gates spent this amount on his children's wedding, no one would bat an eye.

*"Pictures of the marriage of Bill and Melinda Gates’ eldest daughter, Jennifer, and her equestrian sweetheart, Nayel Nassar, emerged this week and they paint a picture of a lavish farm wedding set amongst the autumn leaves.

Reports this week suggest the pair’s 300 guests were treated to two ceremonies, a lavish brunch and a performance from Coldplay - as long as they’d had the vaccine and tested negative for Covid.

According to the bride herself, the star-studded three-day event felt like an “otherworldly fairyale”, with decadent white floral decorations, hanging yellow lights and a roster of celebrity wedding planners behind the venue, food and drink."*

Do you not think a 3 day "white wedding" (unlike a traditional Indian wedding) is absurd? Or hiring a famous band? Multiple outfits?

No. It's just when brown people do it that it's a problem.

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