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To find the Ambani wedding distasteful

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Soonenough · 14/07/2024 21:06

I know everyone can do what they like , it's their money . But such an extravagant event in a place where a large proportion of the population live in slum conditions is rather unsettling.? Plus the bride is stunning but the groom unfortunately does not come across as an individual with a lot

of intelligence . Before I get flamed , he and his family are encouraging the public to view them and I guess are expecting admiration.

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Walkaround · 19/07/2024 07:51

marcopront · 19/07/2024 04:09

@Walkaround

Your quote is

People living in the city have complained that road closures have worsened traffic problems caused by monsoon flooding, while others have questioned the ostentatious display of wealth.”

How does this say the wedding caused the monsoon flooding?

@marcopront - you are self-evidently misinterpreting what I originally said. Am I also misinterpreting what you said when you wrote that there was no connection made between the wedding and the flooding???

Gingerdancedbackwards · 19/07/2024 05:41

Soonenough · 18/07/2024 11:42

@Gingerdancedbackwards Because those other examples are not flooding social media . The majority of people in Mumbai are living in property. Wouldn't matter what country this display was in. I just find the whole concept distasteful.

So given the poverty in this country, you're happy with footballers on £3/400k a week parading up and down a field every saturday?

All relative

marcopront · 19/07/2024 04:09

@Walkaround

Your quote is

People living in the city have complained that road closures have worsened traffic problems caused by monsoon flooding, while others have questioned the ostentatious display of wealth.”

How does this say the wedding caused the monsoon flooding?

HucklefinBerry · 19/07/2024 03:43

socialdilemmawhattodo · 14/07/2024 21:34

I agree with the distaste. These are private people, no matter how wealthy. So different to any of the Royal or celebrity weddings which seem relatively quite cheap in comparison.

Private people at least pay for their own wedding and security

Soonenough · 18/07/2024 23:26

@Hawkinsresident Why the hostility? You realise the majority of responders also found this distasteful? Nobody is educating me . The only person being embarrassing is you . No need to get personal FFS . And are you on first name terms with the Ambani family.

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Walkaround · 18/07/2024 19:49

Ps the road closures were specifically for the wedding.

HRTQueen · 18/07/2024 19:48

I have been to many Indian/south Asian weddings that are always extravagant

cant see how it is different to our royal weddings just more colourful and certainly more fun

I wouldn’t have said no to an invite

Walkaround · 18/07/2024 19:48

marcopront · 18/07/2024 18:55

The news reports say
The wedding happened
Monsoon flooding happened

Please share a link to the one saying they are related.

Monsoon is particularly heavy here at the moment. Not much until July 8th but since then it has been very heavy. The flooding is related to the amount of rain not the wedding

Try The Washington Post and BBC News, and Reuters. Quote from BBC News, which is at least quite muted in its reporting of criticism, “But the extraordinary opulence has also led to a backlash.
People living in the city have complained that road closures have worsened traffic problems caused by monsoon flooding, while others have questioned the ostentatious display of wealth.”
Imvho, it would be alarmingly obsequious for no criticism to come out of months of celebrations. Even one day for a coronation was disruptive enough in the UK. Why pretend one family’s endless partying is not actually disruptive for ordinary people? Has any gain been worth the expense and disruption for the vast majority of those people? It would be nice to know.

Lalgarh · 18/07/2024 19:22

If it helps, at least 30% of rural India was under the control of Maoist guerillas in the 2000s

Oddly, People in those areas didn't get improvements in welfare 👵🤐

Grammarnut · 18/07/2024 19:12

TakeMe2Insanity · 18/07/2024 15:41

I read a stat somewhere that basically said it was the world’s cheapest wedding in that it only cost 0.05% of their wealth.

I find that obscene.

Hawkinsresident · 18/07/2024 18:56

Soonenough · 18/07/2024 14:41

I started this thread and it has evolved into very distinct categories. Unfortunately the poor will always be with us in every civilization . Individually we can only do so much but to try to be aware and compassionate . The vulgar display of wealth and all the participants like Boris and performers who took the money should be ashamed . There is no comparison to an extravagant wedding in any culture .Others have had extravagant events but didnt open it to social media or pay so called celebrities to attend . It was a display of obscene wealth juxtaposed next to some of the most poverty stricken in the world , specifically in Mumbai . Are the Ambani displaying this to share their joy in the marriage? My arse. Vulgar, tone deaf display in order to portray their power and position .

You know nothing about the Ambanis… seriously stop embarrassing yourself. Everyone has tried educating you and now giving up.

marcopront · 18/07/2024 18:55

Walkaround · 18/07/2024 18:43

@marcopront - you can access all the news reports for yourself.

The news reports say
The wedding happened
Monsoon flooding happened

Please share a link to the one saying they are related.

Monsoon is particularly heavy here at the moment. Not much until July 8th but since then it has been very heavy. The flooding is related to the amount of rain not the wedding

Hawkinsresident · 18/07/2024 18:52

Gladtobeout · 18/07/2024 11:53

UK:

Poverty has increased, close to pre-pandemic levels

More than 1 in 5 people in the UK (22%) were in poverty in 2021/22 – 14.4 million people.23 Jan 2024

India:

According to research by the State Bank of India, released in February 2024, the poverty rate in the country fell to 4.5-5 percent in 2022-23.

The Ambanis donated £66 mil in 2020 as well as funding the initial COVID response.

Now, please do tell me how this thread is not a racist rant from most of you, and how if this family were a rich white family of similar standing, you would be posting the same comments. If Bill Gates spent this amount on his children's wedding, no one would bat an eye.

*"Pictures of the marriage of Bill and Melinda Gates’ eldest daughter, Jennifer, and her equestrian sweetheart, Nayel Nassar, emerged this week and they paint a picture of a lavish farm wedding set amongst the autumn leaves.

Reports this week suggest the pair’s 300 guests were treated to two ceremonies, a lavish brunch and a performance from Coldplay - as long as they’d had the vaccine and tested negative for Covid.

According to the bride herself, the star-studded three-day event felt like an “otherworldly fairyale”, with decadent white floral decorations, hanging yellow lights and a roster of celebrity wedding planners behind the venue, food and drink."*

Do you not think a 3 day "white wedding" (unlike a traditional Indian wedding) is absurd? Or hiring a famous band? Multiple outfits?

No. It's just when brown people do it that it's a problem.

THIS ….Well said 🙌

@Soonenough please respond to above. You need unconscious bias training

Walkaround · 18/07/2024 18:43

@marcopront - you can access all the news reports for yourself.

marcopront · 18/07/2024 18:40

@Walkaround

Actually, I think the poor of Mumbai would rather the family had had a smaller wedding, or had had it in Westminster, given the complaints about, eg, road closures for the wedding worsening monsoon flooding, etc.

How would the poor of Mumbai be affected by the road closures?

And how did the wedding affect monsoon flooding?

Walkaround · 18/07/2024 18:33

Kinshipug · 18/07/2024 16:14

Why does proximity to poverty make it any worse?
Do you suppose the Indian poor would feel better knowing that billionaires had a slightly smaller wedding? I don't suppose it makes any difference to them at all whether there's a massive wedding in Mumbai or in Westminster. Either would have had the capacity to change the lives if millions had they wished.
In reality it just makes you feel better to demand that these particular rich people behave better than others.
We don't pick apart the expenses of any other billionaires. What's different about this family?

Actually, I think the poor of Mumbai would rather the family had had a smaller wedding, or had had it in Westminster, given the complaints about, eg, road closures for the wedding worsening monsoon flooding, etc. A wedding that huge is massively disruptive of normal people’s everyday lives.

Kinshipug · 18/07/2024 17:31

DysonSphere · 18/07/2024 17:05

Read with interest.

Why are you arguing that it doesn't matter out of interest?

I mean, I come from a country where people are very poor, but I would never argue that criticism of the wealth inequality is somehow racist. I'd be first on lime to criticise. Yes in Britain there is inequality, but no, it isn't as awful in real terms as that I have seen back home. And that's just fact. I don't see kids walking barefoot because the only one pair of shoes they have are for school and events for e.g.

It's weird to be defensive about people criticising pretty stark inequality just because it's your country and no, not all poverty is the same. I'm broke, I have a ton of bills I can't pay, virtually no savings (god knows what would happen if the fridge or Washing machine broke down) but I have roof over my head (precariously true, but it's there) easily accessible clean running water, clean sanitary amenities, and if I really need it, access to a food bank.

That isn't the same poverty level as someone who doesn't even have that. These are the basics on the Maslow hierarchy. To give a great ostentatious display of wealth when the inequality is that stark is disgusting. End of. Who cares where it is? And why compare as if to say, well it doesn't matter, don't criticise because you have inequality toooooo

Because poverty doesn't stop existing because we (or the various billionaires) can't see it. We and they all know it's there.
Vast inequality is always wrong. Being in India doesn't make it more wrong.

PurpleFleece · 18/07/2024 17:09

Oh the racism is strong in this one...

DysonSphere · 18/07/2024 17:05

*in line

DysonSphere · 18/07/2024 17:05

Kinshipug · 18/07/2024 16:39

What difference does it make if the wealth is on display? If anything I'd say it's better than the faux humility thing some of them pull. And people do fall for it, clearly. Falling over themselves to justify why this is worse because for no reason other than it's in India.

Read with interest.

Why are you arguing that it doesn't matter out of interest?

I mean, I come from a country where people are very poor, but I would never argue that criticism of the wealth inequality is somehow racist. I'd be first on lime to criticise. Yes in Britain there is inequality, but no, it isn't as awful in real terms as that I have seen back home. And that's just fact. I don't see kids walking barefoot because the only one pair of shoes they have are for school and events for e.g.

It's weird to be defensive about people criticising pretty stark inequality just because it's your country and no, not all poverty is the same. I'm broke, I have a ton of bills I can't pay, virtually no savings (god knows what would happen if the fridge or Washing machine broke down) but I have roof over my head (precariously true, but it's there) easily accessible clean running water, clean sanitary amenities, and if I really need it, access to a food bank.

That isn't the same poverty level as someone who doesn't even have that. These are the basics on the Maslow hierarchy. To give a great ostentatious display of wealth when the inequality is that stark is disgusting. End of. Who cares where it is? And why compare as if to say, well it doesn't matter, don't criticise because you have inequality toooooo

Kinshipug · 18/07/2024 16:39

Soonenough · 18/07/2024 16:34

@Kinshipug Yes we do comment on , pick apart other billionaires when they display vulgar wealth . Elon Musk is hardly admired is he ? If you choose to put your wealthy lifestyle in the public domain then you have to be prepared to take the criticism and opinions of that public .
What makes this family different is that they chose to flagrantly display this wealth and invited the world's media access to it all. And made a point of highlighting the cost .

What difference does it make if the wealth is on display? If anything I'd say it's better than the faux humility thing some of them pull. And people do fall for it, clearly. Falling over themselves to justify why this is worse because for no reason other than it's in India.

Soonenough · 18/07/2024 16:34

@Kinshipug Yes we do comment on , pick apart other billionaires when they display vulgar wealth . Elon Musk is hardly admired is he ? If you choose to put your wealthy lifestyle in the public domain then you have to be prepared to take the criticism and opinions of that public .
What makes this family different is that they chose to flagrantly display this wealth and invited the world's media access to it all. And made a point of highlighting the cost .

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Grammarnut · 18/07/2024 16:28

Kinshipug · 18/07/2024 16:14

Why does proximity to poverty make it any worse?
Do you suppose the Indian poor would feel better knowing that billionaires had a slightly smaller wedding? I don't suppose it makes any difference to them at all whether there's a massive wedding in Mumbai or in Westminster. Either would have had the capacity to change the lives if millions had they wished.
In reality it just makes you feel better to demand that these particular rich people behave better than others.
We don't pick apart the expenses of any other billionaires. What's different about this family?

It's not what the poor thinks that matters here. One's own integrity is at stake here. The widely-publicised wedding and the mention of charitable donations - how do we know about these?- both suggest shallow people.

Kinshipug · 18/07/2024 16:14

Grammarnut · 18/07/2024 15:59

It would be just as tone-deaf if it was taking place in many South American countries. The poverty of the favelas is just as great as that of the shanty towns of Mumbai.

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Why does proximity to poverty make it any worse?
Do you suppose the Indian poor would feel better knowing that billionaires had a slightly smaller wedding? I don't suppose it makes any difference to them at all whether there's a massive wedding in Mumbai or in Westminster. Either would have had the capacity to change the lives if millions had they wished.
In reality it just makes you feel better to demand that these particular rich people behave better than others.
We don't pick apart the expenses of any other billionaires. What's different about this family?

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