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Kid's being allowed to go to school late in the morning

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OoodlesofNoodles · 14/07/2024 19:05

Local schools to me are allowing children to go in at 10am tomorrow.

What do we all think about this? I'm on the fence, schools are shouting about absence/lateness/taking them out for holidays but on the other hand the kids may not see this again for a long time. My sisters kids are upset because both parents can't start work late so they have to go to school at usual time, it's unfair to put parents on the spot with this as well.

YABU - It's fine for schools to do this.
YANBU - I don't agree with it.

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Adviceneeeeded · 14/07/2024 22:02

@Greenlittecat fair enough. Our school is open and no one is allowed in late anyway.

Just all baffling to me. I have 4 and they go in regardless.

Greenlittecat · 14/07/2024 22:01

Adviceneeeeded · 14/07/2024 21:58

@Bluebirdover I'm not saying that. That's what @Greenlittecat is implying.

No, it wasn't at all.

Greenlittecat · 14/07/2024 22:01

Adviceneeeeded · 14/07/2024 21:55

I agree @Munter it's giving parents a free pass to get drunk in that case. If they had to be in school normal time. It would then highlight who is late in or off and keep an eye on these children's livining situation.

By giving them a late start it masks who might need help, encourages the undesirable behaviour and who's looking after the children between this time because the parents are hung over. Which is what you are saying. Better they are in school. Or ar least its the highlighted who needs help because they didn't make it in.... @Greenlittecat

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Parents don't need a free pass to get drunk or take drugs or argue or beat eachother. It just statistically happens more when football, especially big matches where emotions run high, is playing.

Schools have to safegaurd children who have witnessed the above, they also have to cater for children who might be tired because they've had a nice day watching the match with friends and family and who normally go to bed at 8.

It's a balancing act.

It's also not compulsory and you don't need to send your kids in later if you don't agree with it.

Adviceneeeeded · 14/07/2024 21:58

@Bluebirdover I'm not saying that. That's what @Greenlittecat is implying.

Ruelzdontapply · 14/07/2024 21:57

I don't know if schools round here are allowing children to come in later but I know ds school isn't. Even if they did ds would be going in at normal time because he gets up at 5 no matter what time he's gone to bed.

Bluebirdover · 14/07/2024 21:56

Adviceneeeeded · 14/07/2024 21:55

I agree @Munter it's giving parents a free pass to get drunk in that case. If they had to be in school normal time. It would then highlight who is late in or off and keep an eye on these children's livining situation.

By giving them a late start it masks who might need help, encourages the undesirable behaviour and who's looking after the children between this time because the parents are hung over. Which is what you are saying. Better they are in school. Or ar least its the highlighted who needs help because they didn't make it in.... @Greenlittecat

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So.....

Only when school starts an hour later, is when parents get drunk?

Oh how simplistic it is!

Newrumpus · 14/07/2024 21:56

Holidaaaaay · 14/07/2024 19:11

It's a piss take. Next time they complain about my child having a medical appointment in school time I'll be reminding them of this.

Reminding them that they supported parents who needed a little extra time to get their children into school after a late night for a key event involving their national sport.

Adviceneeeeded · 14/07/2024 21:55

I agree @Munter it's giving parents a free pass to get drunk in that case. If they had to be in school normal time. It would then highlight who is late in or off and keep an eye on these children's livining situation.

By giving them a late start it masks who might need help, encourages the undesirable behaviour and who's looking after the children between this time because the parents are hung over. Which is what you are saying. Better they are in school. Or ar least its the highlighted who needs help because they didn't make it in.... @Greenlittecat

LadyMonicaBaddingham · 14/07/2024 21:55

Some kids at my school are late all the time. It's not their fault... Habitual tardiness is just another symptom of the entitled modern age, I'm afraid

Munter · 14/07/2024 21:54

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Greenlittecat · 14/07/2024 21:54

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Yeah, I'm not going to respond to you anymore.

It was better in the 80's I'm sure 🙄

scalt · 14/07/2024 21:53

Have we forgotten that many, many days of school were missed in 2020, by hundreds of thousands of children, and it was considered more important for pubs to open? Are many of these children not still lagging behind? And this was casually waved aside by the government, and Nick Gibb (then Schools Minister) told us the bare-faced lie "no child will lose out on their education..."

We can't allow kids time off school because of a footie match, it would set a precedent.

Greenlittecat · 14/07/2024 21:53

Adviceneeeeded · 14/07/2024 21:50

@Greenlittecat you are right. I don't. I own restaurants and work In hospitality so we have many many late nights. We are still up by 7am latest and in school for 8:30 regardless

Off topic but working in a restaurant as a teen was my favourite job.

You are up early because you care about your children and their education. Lots of parents don't.

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Greenlittecat · 14/07/2024 21:51

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Ah well. It's only the kids who suffer eh?🙄

Why bother trying to put things in place to help vulnerable children.

Adviceneeeeded · 14/07/2024 21:50

@Greenlittecat you are right. I don't. I own restaurants and work In hospitality so we have many many late nights. We are still up by 7am latest and in school for 8:30 regardless

Munter · 14/07/2024 21:49

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Greenlittecat · 14/07/2024 21:49

Adviceneeeeded · 14/07/2024 21:48

@Greenlittecat I think you are reading too much into it. If the parents are that feckless they still won't send them in. Regardless of a late night.

No, I'm not at all.

You don't work with children or safegaurding do you?

Greenlittecat · 14/07/2024 21:48

Adviceneeeeded · 14/07/2024 21:44

@Munter exactly. Mime have been raised to have late nights when needed and get up right as rain for school etc the next day. We don't have a rigid routine which I think actually hinders kids. They need to be a bit flexible. I'm not saying late nights every night. But most of my mum friends have such rigid routines, their kids can't cope outside of it.

But that's because you are a good, loving parent who has their best interests at heart. So are your friends who chose to be less flexible.

Adviceneeeeded · 14/07/2024 21:48

@Greenlittecat I think you are reading too much into it. If the parents are that feckless they still won't send them in. Regardless of a late night.

Greenlittecat · 14/07/2024 21:47

Adviceneeeeded · 14/07/2024 21:37

I'm baffled that kids can't cope with one late night!

It's not about kids not coping staying up late.

It's about protecting vulnerable children whose parents are shit and wouldn't bother sending them to school because they're hungover/ still over the limit / they were running late.

Domestic Abuse sky rockets after football matches, particularly if England loose.

It's giving vulnerable children the chance to still go to a safe space without being penalised if they're feckless parents can't be bothered to get them up after a late night.

Sheelanogig · 14/07/2024 21:45

OhHelloMiss · 14/07/2024 21:37

Could easily go to extra time!

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Depends on Pickford's one-man show 😏

Adviceneeeeded · 14/07/2024 21:44

@Munter exactly. Mime have been raised to have late nights when needed and get up right as rain for school etc the next day. We don't have a rigid routine which I think actually hinders kids. They need to be a bit flexible. I'm not saying late nights every night. But most of my mum friends have such rigid routines, their kids can't cope outside of it.

DrCoconut · 14/07/2024 21:43

@Greenlittecat that's the point though, this shouldn't be allowed to affect whole schools. School starts at (eg) 8:45 so in the absence of illness or other exceptional circumstances that is when you arrive by. If you choose to stay up watching TV it's on you. It leaves a very nasty taste with those of us who have had genuinely sick children and had grief about attendance.

Munter · 14/07/2024 21:38

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