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Totoe · 2024-07-14T17:38:53+00:00

I was a little bit shocked to see them gathering round him putting themselves in the line of fire like that. Would that happen in this country? Never seen anything like it before and not sure how I feel about it.

boxwithacat · 14/07/2024 20:24

You could see the obvious gap better from a distance.

boxwithacat · 14/07/2024 20:17

dougalfromthemagicroundabout · 14/07/2024 20:15

I'm glad it's not just me that thought that! Surely it's important to have bodyguards that are tall enough to actually protect the VIP's head? Especially in this situation where a head shot is most likely.

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It felt bad saying it but it’s the first thing I thought. Trump was all covered apart from where she was which was at the front from where he was shooting. So the only gap his head and throat was completely visible.

Ivehearditbothways · 14/07/2024 20:15

Where you trying to make this a trump bashing thread? About how he expects the lowly staff to die for him? Because this is, I think, the only thing he cannot be criticised for. It’s the exact same for anyone who hires bodyguards or works in government, in any country, and is given protection officers. When there is a threat, they surround and out their bodies between their client and harm. This has nothing to do with Trump, and would have been the same for anyone else.

dougalfromthemagicroundabout · 14/07/2024 20:15

boxwithacat · 14/07/2024 19:25

Yes, and the female bodyguard was quite short so she didn’t cover his head. But she protected his body.

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I'm glad it's not just me that thought that! Surely it's important to have bodyguards that are tall enough to actually protect the VIP's head? Especially in this situation where a head shot is most likely.

Cityandmakeup · 14/07/2024 20:13

Lellochip · 14/07/2024 19:06

It's how they protect their target, though I was just thinking what a terrible job they did, didn't cover him well at all. Someone could've quite easily got in a few more shots while he was doing his little victory first pumps, shoddy bodyguarding!

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boxwithacat · 14/07/2024 20:12

brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr · 14/07/2024 19:49

Here’s a pic…Weird bulge, weird clenched fake hand…

So not such broad shoulders irl? It looks so weird when you know it. Would they not be in the way/being heavy if something happened..!?

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Totoe · 14/07/2024 20:11

PotteringAlonggotkickedoutandhadtoreregister · 14/07/2024 20:06

Have you never seen the film the bodyguard?!

No, nor the TV series. Adding them to my watch list!

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PotteringAlonggotkickedoutandhadtoreregister · 14/07/2024 20:06

Have you never seen the film the bodyguard?!

Imicola · 14/07/2024 20:05

Close protection, it's totally standard. In my recent safety training they talked a bit about what would happen if you were in a situation with close protection (this was focused on overseas work, not UK, but the principle is the same). And yes they basically aim to get the person they are protecting out of harms way by whatever means necessary.

FailBetter · 14/07/2024 20:05

Double bill with In the Line of Fire Clint Eastwood

boxwithacat · 14/07/2024 19:50

You should stream Bodyguard with Kevin Costner & Whitney Houston tonight OP 😄

brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr · 14/07/2024 19:49

Here’s a pic…Weird bulge, weird clenched fake hand…

brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr · 14/07/2024 19:48

Have you seen the “fake arms” lads King Charles uses ?

Ponderingwindow · 14/07/2024 19:45

That is the job of a secret service agent.

the only person a president or former president has to take orders from is their secret service detail. The bodyguards are risking their lives and in exchange the person being protected has to follow their orders to stay safe.

if you watch the video, Trump was not doing a very good job following their commands. He got a great photo though so I see why he did it.

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Totoe · 14/07/2024 19:44

RandomUsernameHere · 14/07/2024 19:38

I understand where you're coming from OP, as in their lives are no less valuable than his. That has nothing to do with not being a Trump fan, you could say that about anyone. I find it a strange concept too. On the other hand, they know what the job entails and are prepared to do it.

Thank you, this is how I feel. I had thought of bodyguards as people who would take down attackers and might get injured or even killed in the process, but hadn’t really considered that in a situation where taking down the attacker isn't possible they would be expected to just stand in the line of fire to be killed instead of the famous person.

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BMW6 · 14/07/2024 19:43

Totoe · 14/07/2024 19:29

Do they get paid a lot?

Those hired by private wealthy people do.

State appointed not nearly so much. I imagine a person who served as a Royal Protection Officer could name their price when they leave service to work privately, so we'll worthwhile financially in the long run.

xyzabcde · 14/07/2024 19:43

FannyFifer · 14/07/2024 18:45

Yes, it would be the same here, it's literally their job to potentially take a bullet to protect the person they are guarding.

There are the same sort here - but far less obvious.

I was a small cog in a state/political visit.

Both US and UK staff. As a generalisation.
US ones more obvious, thought everyone was called Rodger, crew cut hair but not shaved, bulging pockets. Eyes everywhere.
UK ones. Think fireman in a suit, normal looking, air of competence, quietly self assured. Slight bulge to pockets. Again eyes everywhere.

Both lots got a bit over excited when knives + scissors were found in odd places in the Church. It was the local bobby who sorted/explained it. - It was there various flower arrangers had worked sorting out displays and vases.

DonnaChang · 14/07/2024 19:43

I get your point, OP.

Sad that the lives of several are valued more than that of one famous person.

Those CIA agents last night looked terrified.

Andthereitis · 14/07/2024 19:43

Former prime ministers get a police person.
The London Bus tour guide used to point out the one stood outside Mrs Thatcher's house.

AzureAnt · 14/07/2024 19:39

Yes that's why they are bodyguards
I remember a few years ago someone got too close to Prince Charles, I think he was making a speech. His protection officers surrounded him with lightning speed

RandomUsernameHere · 14/07/2024 19:38

I understand where you're coming from OP, as in their lives are no less valuable than his. That has nothing to do with not being a Trump fan, you could say that about anyone. I find it a strange concept too. On the other hand, they know what the job entails and are prepared to do it.

OnTheShelfie · 14/07/2024 19:36

Totoe · 14/07/2024 19:29

Do they get paid a lot?

This seems to depend on the job. I know someone who does something similar on ships defending certain boats against piracy and he is paid a lot of money.

OnTheShelfie · 14/07/2024 19:36

Totoe · 14/07/2024 18:42

Yes I do get that. Do we have the equivalent here? Would our bodyguards act the same? I suppose I’m surprised they didn't have bullet proof vests on like the police/army do.

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I met a bodyguard when a famous person was at a local bookshop. He had taken a bullet for someone. He was British. He was a really interesting guy. Bodyguards are paid to do their job and sometimes that is what is required of their job. They’re lunatics for doing it, but that’s their job. Where they live isn’t relevant.

Eadfrith · 14/07/2024 19:36

User364837 · 14/07/2024 18:46

Might they be wearing bullet proof vests?

Exactly my thoughts. If they were bodyguards then I would have thought so!

MrsLeonFarrell · 14/07/2024 19:35

Totoe · 14/07/2024 19:29

Do they get paid a lot?

Not much more than other security personnel.