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Trump’s human sheilds

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Totoe · 14/07/2024 18:38

I was a little bit shocked to see them gathering round him putting themselves in the line of fire like that. Would that happen in this country? Never seen anything like it before and not sure how I feel about it.

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KimberleyClark · 30/04/2025 10:47

Justcallmebebes · 14/07/2024 19:10

The people on his detail are secret service agents and their political affinity has no reckoning whatsoever on their assignments

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JFK was apparently very unpopular with his own security detail.

Youborme · 30/04/2025 10:42

I did a Close protection training a few years back, and one part that stuck with me was how much planning goes into keeping high-profile people safe in public. It’s not just about standing near them—it’s the prep, the routes, the crowd assessment, all of it. The idea that someone would deliberately place others at risk isn’t just unethical, it’s the opposite of what proper training teaches.

Gorgonemilezola · 17/07/2024 07:36

I'm starting to think montysma1 is an anarchist Grin

Gorgonemilezola · 17/07/2024 07:32

montysma1 · 14/07/2024 23:16

People prepared to die for a public figure or an office need psychiatric help.
Literally, "They are worth more than me", my life is worth less than theirs".
Sad .

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If they weren't prepared to do it democracy would be down the pan. It's not about anyone's life being worth more, it's about nutters derailing democracy by killing people they don't agree with.

Private security is perhaps different, but the pay packets seem to make it worthwhile for some.

DefyingGravitas · 17/07/2024 06:47

dottiehens · 15/07/2024 07:51

Nah this poster has called Trump nasty things in other posts. It is definitely being goady. It must be a bitch to realised he may win the elections after this. Not matter how much shit is stirred it would not make a difference.
May be just go out and enjoy the summer a bit.

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Being called nasty things is a small price to pay vs putting children in cages and grabbing women ‘by the pussy’ so I think she’s alright. Thoughts and prayers though.

DefyingGravitas · 17/07/2024 06:44

Tgjjl · 14/07/2024 18:47

I should think the people on his detail probably support him politically.

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They may or may not but it wouldn’t drive whether they’d be on his detail or not.

liveforsummer · 17/07/2024 06:05

boxwithacat · 14/07/2024 20:24

You could see the obvious gap better from a distance.

Surely this is because he was not cooperating with them. They are in position but he is fighting against them to get his photo moment. Putting their lives at extra risk while he is mostly covered

JustJoinedRightNow · 17/07/2024 05:19

Re the shoes, if Trump's feet are anything like mine with plantar fasciitis there is no way he could have walked, let alone run, to the waiting car and safety!! I know it's a life or death situation but I would be screaming for my shoes too!

Thebellofstclements · 17/07/2024 05:00

Wait until you hear about what the army and soldiers do, it will blow your mind.

Aria999 · 17/07/2024 04:33

And yet apparently they weren't deployed on the roof in question because sloping roofs are a safety hazard 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️ says their boss on tv tonight 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️

Lellochip · 15/07/2024 11:04

Sillystrumpet · 14/07/2024 19:11

The shooter was killed immediately by return fire. They did cover him, and fast, if you watch the videos it’s seconds of time. They are humans not robots.

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They are humans yes, with one job - keep this one person safe. They'd already missed one shooter in plain sight, you never assume there isn't a second. If they were doing their jobs properly we shouldn't have seen sight of Trump from the second he first ducked. Their job in these situations is to cover and extract him.

Gingerdancedbackwards · 15/07/2024 11:00

Totoe · 14/07/2024 18:42

Yes I do get that. Do we have the equivalent here? Would our bodyguards act the same? I suppose I’m surprised they didn't have bullet proof vests on like the police/army do.

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They wear them under their suits

Gingerdancedbackwards · 15/07/2024 10:59

That literally is their job, and the job of protection officers worldwide

Curlygirl06 · 15/07/2024 10:58

They would be extremely thin bullet proof vests if they were wearing them? I've actually got experience of bullet proof (army) vests and they're bloody heavy and bulky!
To be fair that was some time ago so has the technology moved on so that they are now really thin and easier to move in? Genuine question.

Haveyougotallnight · 15/07/2024 10:29

I suspect there will be a huge overhaul of the whole procedure now. I think the security detail did the best they could trying to get the great lumox off the stage 😖. Not having security on the roof opposite was unforgivable though.

plainjayne8282 · 15/07/2024 10:09

User364837 · 14/07/2024 18:46

Might they be wearing bullet proof vests?

Yes, I would imagine so.

I also think their families would be compensated hugely in the event of their death.

TheQueenWhoNeverWas · 15/07/2024 09:01

EsmaCannonball · 15/07/2024 07:18

I think he didn't want to risk there being a photograph of him in his socks. He didn't want to look weak. That was his first priority. Bugger everyone else.

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He'd just been shot and wounded. For once in my life I'm prepared to cut him some slack.

It's not as if he had any military experience. And he's got terrible problems with his feet apparently so maybe he has special shoes. (Oh dear, I seem to have run out of slack to cut him)

Decompressing2 · 15/07/2024 08:38

I was more surprised they didn't have bullet proof shields they could whip up for protection - I've seen security carry brief case like things that open into shields.

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Totoe · 15/07/2024 08:35

dottiehens · 15/07/2024 07:51

Nah this poster has called Trump nasty things in other posts. It is definitely being goady. It must be a bitch to realised he may win the elections after this. Not matter how much shit is stirred it would not make a difference.
May be just go out and enjoy the summer a bit.

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Called him “nasty things”? I think he’s deranged and a danger to democracy!
I am however capable of multiple trains of thought unlike some people, and this thread is about the role of his bodyguards. Go wave your maga flag somewhere relevant.

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DogInATent · 15/07/2024 08:13

LunaTheCat · 15/07/2024 07:58

I just think it’s hilarious they call them “the secret service “… there is nothing secret about them in their b
ack identical suits. They may have been more effective blending in a bit.
Bill Clinton came to our small city once.. it was crawling with men in black suits and sunglasses for 2 weeks prior to his 6 hour visit.

Remember that protecting the President, etc. is not the only job that the USSS does. And the ones you see are the ones they want you to see.

LunaTheCat · 15/07/2024 07:58

I just think it’s hilarious they call them “the secret service “… there is nothing secret about them in their b
ack identical suits. They may have been more effective blending in a bit.
Bill Clinton came to our small city once.. it was crawling with men in black suits and sunglasses for 2 weeks prior to his 6 hour visit.

dottiehens · 15/07/2024 07:51

Nah this poster has called Trump nasty things in other posts. It is definitely being goady. It must be a bitch to realised he may win the elections after this. Not matter how much shit is stirred it would not make a difference.
May be just go out and enjoy the summer a bit.

AmelieTaylor · 15/07/2024 07:25

RandomUsernameHere · 14/07/2024 19:38

I understand where you're coming from OP, as in their lives are no less valuable than his. That has nothing to do with not being a Trump fan, you could say that about anyone. I find it a strange concept too. On the other hand, they know what the job entails and are prepared to do it.

@RandomUsernameHere

i would NOT do it for trump, no matter the money.

i was trying to think who I would do it for and couldn't come up with anyone.

(obviously for 'some' family/friends, but not as a 'job')

the only person I can think of where I'd even think about it as a job would have been The Queen 20 years ago when she had a lot more life to live & I was younger & fitter! But even then it's 'think about it' not definite!!

EsmaCannonball · 15/07/2024 07:18

AmelieTaylor · 15/07/2024 07:14

@EsmaCannonball
i cannot stand the bloke & all his 'fight fight fight' & fist waving was his usual bollocks, but the shoes was a pretty standard 'in shock' response.

i wouldn't incur a broken fingernail to protect him, let alone my life.

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I think he didn't want to risk there being a photograph of him in his socks. He didn't want to look weak. That was his first priority. Bugger everyone else.