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To have grudging respect for how Trump styled it out

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Ladyslip · 14/07/2024 18:15

I mean someone tried to murder him, he came very close to having died. He went through a terrifying experience and came out saying fight and raising his fist in defiance. I think he’s an odious man but despite that, I have to concede a nod to that.

Let’s face it, if this had happened to Obama and he’d responded in the same way we’d all be like ‘woah, he the man!’

Note. This is not a genuine AIBU. I’m confident in my position on this but know so many people have so polarized themselves that they would rather eat their own eyeballs than find any small compliment or recognition for someone they hate.

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cardibach · 14/07/2024 19:06

ClownsFear · 14/07/2024 18:38

I agree. You can imagine many other people (me included) being so shit scared they would crawl on their hands and knees in a panic towards the exit.

Once he'd collected himself and stood up to have the presence of mind and courage to raise a fist in defiance - turning to the crowd 'through' the wall of secret service around him - is amazingly brave and shows a lot of leadership mind set. Very few people I think would be able to do that and at that speed.

I don't like his policies but I totally respect him for that. It's amazing actually and I wouldn't describe my respect as grudging at all.

That aspect of his character - fearless and brave under pressure and showing leadership not to be cowed and to show the people that he was not to be suppressed by fear - is what we all need in our leaders.

How do you think Liz Truss or Joe Biden or Rishi Sunak would react in that situation?

Compare that to how you think Princess Anne or Margaret Thatcher would have reacted.

Whatever you think of them as people or politicians, its a certain type of bravery of character that isn't common.

It doesn’t show bravery. It shows narcissistic idiocy. Putting everyone at risk. He’ll have been trained what to do and it’s not that - he really doesn’t care about anything but his ‘image’. Vile, vile, dangerous, vile man.

TwigletsAndRadishes · 14/07/2024 19:04

I agree with everything you said OP.

Bakersdozens · 14/07/2024 19:03

Ladyslip · 14/07/2024 18:57

You are Queen of the eyeball eaters.

Not only are you unable to give any credit in any situation to someone you hate, but you tell yourself it’s impossible for anyone else to do so.

Remarkable level of inadequacy of character.

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He doesn't deserve any credit, he behaved like a moron, if the shooter was still alive when Trump was sticking his head up and behaving like a target, then Trump might be directly responsible for the other death and injuries.

Are you still going to praise him if this turns out to be true? And if his behaviour didn't lead directly to the other death and serious injuries, then, that was more by luck than judgement.

He fucked up badly. His security fucked up really badly. He is alive by luck, and someone else is dead because of these fuck ups

Notaflippinclue · 14/07/2024 19:02

Narcissist/thick/idiot/odious, ooooh ladies calm down, defame him drag him through the courts and now assassination, I'm afraid it seems they can't stop him becoming president of the United States

DanielGault · 14/07/2024 19:01

CocoapuffPuff · 14/07/2024 19:00

He's a very lucky man. Brave? Meh. Defiant? Absolutely. I'm not sure I find any of his character traits admirable, but I hope he's counting his blessings tonight, as well as finding room in that self centred world of his to think of the families of the dead and injured.

I doubt it tbh.

AmelieTaylor · 14/07/2024 19:01

He wasn't 'brave' he was stupid & selfish, putting his security team at even more risk.

I do despair of some people

CocoapuffPuff · 14/07/2024 19:00

He's a very lucky man. Brave? Meh. Defiant? Absolutely. I'm not sure I find any of his character traits admirable, but I hope he's counting his blessings tonight, as well as finding room in that self centred world of his to think of the families of the dead and injured.

Bakersdozens · 14/07/2024 19:00

Justcallmebebes · 14/07/2024 18:44

Well let's see you get shot in the head then and see how you react

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most people would react instinctively, with adrenaline, the way Trump did, the point is, he should know better, he should have had training, and he should have adhered to it

DanielGault · 14/07/2024 18:59

Ladyslip · 14/07/2024 18:57

You are Queen of the eyeball eaters.

Not only are you unable to give any credit in any situation to someone you hate, but you tell yourself it’s impossible for anyone else to do so.

Remarkable level of inadequacy of character.

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What does this mean?

WappityWabbit · 14/07/2024 18:58

I assumed that as no-one acted to remove the shooter when he was spotted and that the guy missed killing him and just nicked his ear, it was a total set-up.

That's why he wasn't worried for his safety. 🤷🏻‍♀️

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Ladyslip · 14/07/2024 18:57

paywalled · 14/07/2024 18:47

I don’t know why all the MAGAs like OP are so timid.

If you support Trump just say it, no need to temper it with the ‘grudging’ coyness.

You are Queen of the eyeball eaters.

Not only are you unable to give any credit in any situation to someone you hate, but you tell yourself it’s impossible for anyone else to do so.

Remarkable level of inadequacy of character.

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DanielGault · 14/07/2024 18:56

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This has been deleted by MNHQ for breaking our Talk Guidelines - previously banned poster.

Omg, that's so 90s! Just brought me right back to rifling through posters.

anchoviesanchovies · 14/07/2024 18:56

Bakersdozens · 14/07/2024 18:32

He was running on adrenaline, and did everything wrong, showed no self control or training at all. He was sticking his head out without knowing how many snipers there were, or where they were! His guards were desperately trying to reign him in, but he was out of control. No sense, no self control, no response to training

No, I don't admire him. If there had been two shooters, he would have been killed. He is an idiot. Most people know it

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Exactly this. Total arrogance. The longer he delayed moving away and kept raising his head up the more he was putting his security and bystanders in danger.

DanielGault · 14/07/2024 18:54

Ladyslip · 14/07/2024 18:52

i’ve told you I’ve seen people who who absolutely did become wreckage. I’ve also read accounts from people who became wreckage in life threatening moments. I’ve seen a guy freeze whilst his wife haemorraged after giving birth whilst she called to him to get help. He was rooted to the spot staring at her unable to move. You are just wrong to say everyone becomes an adrenaline filled superhero.

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Isn't it fight or flight? You'll run or be the hero. Adrenaline?

fairylightdollhouse · 14/07/2024 18:54

Totally agree with you OP ! I was thinking the same.

RationalityIsHard · 14/07/2024 18:54

SpudleyLass · 14/07/2024 18:52

But only for 4 more years, because after that, he won't be able to run for President again.

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Are you sure? Not like he left gracefully last time.

Munter · 14/07/2024 18:52

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Ladyslip · 14/07/2024 18:52

Bakersdozens · 14/07/2024 18:40

no, people don't become a cowering wreck in such circumstance, at all - they become adrenaline fuelled superheroes.

The cowering and wreckage comes later when the adrenaline has worn off

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i’ve told you I’ve seen people who who absolutely did become wreckage. I’ve also read accounts from people who became wreckage in life threatening moments. I’ve seen a guy freeze whilst his wife haemorraged after giving birth whilst she called to him to get help. He was rooted to the spot staring at her unable to move. You are just wrong to say everyone becomes an adrenaline filled superhero.

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SpudleyLass · 14/07/2024 18:52

Justcallmebebes · 14/07/2024 18:50

Well if he wins in November you can all spend the next 4 years frothing at the mouth

But only for 4 more years, because after that, he won't be able to run for President again.

AthenaWhite · 14/07/2024 18:51

Can't stand the man but the way he handled himself was incredibly stylish.

That photo is the photo of the year, if not the decade.

DanielGault · 14/07/2024 18:51

Justcallmebebes · 14/07/2024 18:50

Well if he wins in November you can all spend the next 4 years frothing at the mouth

As opposed to drooling over Trump?

RationalityIsHard · 14/07/2024 18:50

Justcallmebebes · 14/07/2024 18:48

What do you mean by "these" kind of rallies? Both Dems and Reps do and have done these "kind" of rallies since political campaigning began

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I mean the same kind of outdoor rally where he got shot at. Nothing to do with the content of the rally or what he says during them.

Justcallmebebes · 14/07/2024 18:50

Well if he wins in November you can all spend the next 4 years frothing at the mouth

Myusernamemustbeatleastthreecharacters · 14/07/2024 18:48

I cannot stand the man.
I don't think anyone deserves to be shot at, especially with a serious attempt on taking his life, regardless of his personal or political dealings.
I thought he handled it extremely well and I admire that (and that alone)
I also think the photography that captured the events are incredible.

Justcallmebebes · 14/07/2024 18:48

RationalityIsHard · 14/07/2024 18:45

The true measure of his courage will be if he goes back to doing these kind of rallies or not.

What do you mean by "these" kind of rallies? Both Dems and Reps do and have done these "kind" of rallies since political campaigning began