To have grudging respect for how Trump styled it out

Boris and his ilk were dicks but they weren't wannabe dictators. They wanted to rule the establishment not get rid of it. Trump is an entirely different class.

He has literally millions of supporters in America. Maybe as you don’t live in America, you don’t see what the country has been reduced to. The cities are dire - resembling something from a third world country. People are desperate. So I think unless you live amongst them, you shouldn’t judge the voters there. And of course you know no-one in real life who supports him - why would you if you don’t live there? Most people in other countries don’t really have an opinion about another country’s politics, especially in the UK where we have been battling with our own election over the last few months.

It's a bit like on the Royal family threads, there are always people suggesting they've stumbled on there by accident and they don't care at all, but also by the way here is a 10000 word essay on why Harry and Meghan should be King and Queen of the universe. Same vibes here.

It would appear that cheapskate protection by DHS (who are still denying protection to RFK Jr) allowed the course of events.
More professional security (the counter-sniper was from the local police department rather than FBI/SS, there was no lockdown of the buildings that overlooked the site, flags were flying close to the dais to enable a sniper to correct for wind speed ...) will make future events safer.
However single-minded/pig-headed he is, I would not be surprised if the full impact of events take two or three weeks to take effect.

Of course Trump is an odious man, but I find it really hypocritical to slag him off when we Brits have our own bunch of complete dickheads running the country, plus ones that have come and gone.

If Trump gets in, loads of Americans will have voted for him, and see themselves as being better off. Why do you know better?

I’ve just spent a month in America. From what I saw, there are less idiots there, than here.

He loves Putin though- he wants Russia to win and NATO to collapse. I don't think many people realise Trump is a direct (not just indirect) risk to the UK as we depend on US for our nuclear defence, and it becomes useless when Trump privately supports Putin.

I have to agree with this. You're deluded OP!

The would be assassin was killed. So was a man in the crowd.

But…. there is also evidence that he has donated to the Democrats, and people are saying he registered as a Republican so that he could get access to Republican rallies if he wanted. Regardless, it’s been confirmed he is a democratic supporter.

Has it been confirmed that he was a democrat the day he was killed ? or that he gave a small donation to a democratic charity three years ago ? Demolition ranch sounds like an interesting channel, bet they are thrilled to be linked to a would be assassin ?

Way ahead, you say? It’s within margins of error. And I don’t understand why it’s that close - who would vote for a sexually abusive, lying, fraudster?
(Source: https://www.economist.com/interactive/us-2024-election/trump-biden-polls )

MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN (their slogan not mine)

Make America Great Again!

This is the conclusion I have come to also.

Someone on another thread tried to lecture people on the adrenaline fight/flight thing (very badly). It possibly was adrenaline, he must have been in shock, but he certainly showed bravado - the fist raised above a blood streaked face.
I dislike Trump intensely. I hop Biden wins, but I fear he won't, and do wish he'd listen to George Clooney et al. Calling Zelensky "President Putin" wasn't an amusing faux pas. It was genuinely concerning.

That's what I want to know!

It’s scary that how people want him as president more based on this. I guess people really want to go to war?!

What is MAGA?

Those of you saying it was a set up, I'm just curious as to the mechanics. If it hadn't been for the turn of his head he would have been hit.

Risky strategy? I am no Trump fan but I just want to know how you think it could have been orchestrated without actual danger to him. It seems like a close call.

As well as those injured and killed, I do feel sorry for the shooter's family. He was only 20. They must be devastated.

But…. there is also evidence that he has donated to the Democrats, and people are saying he registered as a Republican so that he could get access to Republican rallies if he wanted. Regardless, it’s been confirmed he is a democratic supporter.

I very much doubt it seeing as someone died.

It's because it was entirely staged. He knew he was in no danger.

@PurplePetalPip it isn't beyond the bounds of possibility that it wasn't entirely staged given the number of firearms in civilian hands in the US is it ? Just takes one person with a mental health issue to climb on a roof or walk into a school with their ridiculously powerful gun and things get messy quickly.

Plus someone at the rally was killed