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To have grudging respect for how Trump styled it out

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Ladyslip · 14/07/2024 18:15

I mean someone tried to murder him, he came very close to having died. He went through a terrifying experience and came out saying fight and raising his fist in defiance. I think he’s an odious man but despite that, I have to concede a nod to that.

Let’s face it, if this had happened to Obama and he’d responded in the same way we’d all be like ‘woah, he the man!’

Note. This is not a genuine AIBU. I’m confident in my position on this but know so many people have so polarized themselves that they would rather eat their own eyeballs than find any small compliment or recognition for someone they hate.

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Teddybearpicniccelebration · 14/07/2024 20:56

SpudleyLass · 14/07/2024 20:51

The people who voted for Brexit were already poor and ignored by Westminster.

They ended up worse because they believed in Boris and Farage and what they said. Since BREXIT it has got worse and it won't get any better. Before we joined the EU we were the sick ones in Europe. We don't make anything and we voted leave. I eat a Mediterranean diet and it costs because it comes from Europe. I will never compromise on my health and eat shit.

Dymaxion · 14/07/2024 20:55

Tony Blair, illegal wars anyone?

We were small fry compared to the US contingent and were also supported by the Australians and the Polish. Lets not pretend Blair started the invasion by himself, American forces made up 75% and were under the direction of George W Bush.

SpudleyLass · 14/07/2024 20:51

Teddybearpicniccelebration · 14/07/2024 20:48

The British people also voted to leave BREXIT vote ourselves poorer

The people who voted for Brexit were already poor and ignored by Westminster.

Teddybearpicniccelebration · 14/07/2024 20:48

CaliforniaChill · 14/07/2024 20:42

Boris and his ilk were dicks but they weren't wannabe dictators. They wanted to rule the establishment not get rid of it. Trump is an entirely different class.

Tony Blair, illegal wars anyone?

The British people also voted to leave BREXIT vote ourselves poorer

infor · 14/07/2024 20:46

Dymaxion · 14/07/2024 20:10

@Infor I asked on another thread about Hawkeye as the security were asking about them on the podium after Trump went down, was the security for Trump private and the Hawkeye contingent were on the periphery ? Who were the people who turned up in full combat gear ? local's or national or SS ?

The main SS security were in suits and seemed clusmsy - one struggled to holster their pistol, a more traditional CAT (Hawkeye) in black battledress stood guard after the clearance, so I'm guessing they are normally hidden from sight but very close to whoever they're guarding.
On closer inspection, the sniper who killed the shooter was 'Hawkeye' with a very faded 'Secret Service' sign on their vest.
There seems to be some confusion as to where the perimeter of secret service responsibility ended and local police began. Not sure if that's real or to save the blushes of responsible parties until investigations are progressed further.

Livelovebehappy · 14/07/2024 20:45

paywalled · 14/07/2024 20:26

Found my own 🔗🔗, it was a $15 donation made many years ago.

His high school friends say he was right leaning.

No longer right leaning it would seem…

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Munter · 14/07/2024 20:43

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BarryCantSwim · 14/07/2024 20:43

paywalled · 14/07/2024 20:20

Link please?

this info was on the BBC website

CaliforniaChill · 14/07/2024 20:42

Boris and his ilk were dicks but they weren't wannabe dictators. They wanted to rule the establishment not get rid of it. Trump is an entirely different class.

Tony Blair, illegal wars anyone?

Apolloneuro · 14/07/2024 20:41

I don’t think anyone has much control over how they respond to an intense situation like this, so I don’t think we can condemn or congratulate him.

Livelovebehappy · 14/07/2024 20:40

Teddybearpicniccelebration · 14/07/2024 19:53

Are you voting to leave NATO?

I didn’t say whether I agree with his policies, or not agree with them. Just pointing out that others are allowed to have different views to others. America have to vote for what they feel is best for them as a country.

Teddybearpicniccelebration · 14/07/2024 20:34

mollyfolk · 14/07/2024 20:31

i was also very impressed! I don’t like trump or his policies. I’m scared of his anti democratic rhetoric. But he’s a great showman, I completely understand his appeal to some.

Trump is no different to Boris it will always end up in a a shit show.

Clafoutie · 14/07/2024 20:33

MrsClatterbuck · 14/07/2024 20:17

This. He wasn't for doing what was expected of him in this situation making the ss agents job harder. As you say if there had been a second shooter he would have been toast.

Agreed. Self-protection and self-promotion are what drives him, none of which should be mistaken for bravery.
When Jo Cox was murdered, her thoughts were for her assistant to be safe. That was true bravery.

Teddybearpicniccelebration · 14/07/2024 20:32

gotmyknickersinatwist · 14/07/2024 20:23

Eyeball eaters? Googled it & still no idea what it means.

Another saying "I would rather eat dog shit than eat your food."
" I would rather eat my eyeballs than say Trump is great."

mollyfolk · 14/07/2024 20:31

i was also very impressed! I don’t like trump or his policies. I’m scared of his anti democratic rhetoric. But he’s a great showman, I completely understand his appeal to some.

Ladyslip · 14/07/2024 20:27

gotmyknickersinatwist · 14/07/2024 20:23

Eyeball eaters? Googled it & still no idea what it means.

Read my OP

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paywalled · 14/07/2024 20:26

Livelovebehappy · 14/07/2024 19:57

But…. there is also evidence that he has donated to the Democrats, and people are saying he registered as a Republican so that he could get access to Republican rallies if he wanted. Regardless, it’s been confirmed he is a democratic supporter.

Found my own 🔗🔗, it was a $15 donation made many years ago.

His high school friends say he was right leaning.

1bub1pup · 14/07/2024 20:25

Cuppapuppa · 14/07/2024 18:36

That one photograph will forever remain iconic. A better poster could not have been designed.

From a PR perspective it’s brilliant.

P.S I don’t like him.

My thoughts exactly.
Can't stand the man but dammit he's played a blinder

Dymaxion · 14/07/2024 20:25

I thought the poor man who was killed in front of his wife and daughter was on the bleachers to the left of Trump ?

justasking111 · 14/07/2024 20:23

Livelovebehappy · 14/07/2024 20:19

But the guy shot dead was stood behind Trump/the stage? So clearly bullets were shot in Trump’s direction. Is the hospital and his security all in on this conspiracy, as they’ve confirmed it was a bulletin wound?

Yes the bleachers behind Trump were full I noticed. The victim was there.

gotmyknickersinatwist · 14/07/2024 20:23

Ladyslip · 14/07/2024 18:29

As I expected, this thread has brought the eyeball eaters to the yard.

If you have to sink to ‘there’s a sentient human whose to thick to understand being shot at is dangerous’ then you really are at the bottom of the barrel yourself.

Eyeball eaters? Googled it & still no idea what it means.

justasking111 · 14/07/2024 20:21

paywalled · 14/07/2024 20:20

Link please?

Ok

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Munter · 14/07/2024 20:21

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Notaflippinclue · 14/07/2024 20:21

Such ru conspiracy theories - I really believe there is some kind of psychotic contagion when it comes to Trump

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