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To have a niggling feeling that my bf won't propose to me?

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Cheesygirl · 13/07/2024 08:45

I have a niggling feeling that my bf won't propose to me. We have a very good relationship where he is thoughtful takes care of me, gifts etc.
I fell pregnant very early in the relationship and now we have a six month old daughter. He is a good father(he now does 50% that I have gone back to work). We are saving to buy a house, he has a life insurance set up for me and my daughter and he shows he is committed all the way.
However I have the niggling feeling he won't propose to me for engagement or marriage. He says he wants to marry me and our daughter to be a bridesmaid in our wedding when she is about 3-4 and he has told other people as well.
He hasn't However spoken about any engagement interim or any other form of formal commitment. I asked him to sign a cohabitation agreement with me but didn't want to saying real love doesn't need contracts and he finds it insulting.
I do believe that he loves me a lot he is saying that daily and doing things to prove it so there's no doubt about that. Yesterday we were on a date day at the Natural History Museum and we were at the gemstone section. I told him that I like the aquamarine stone and I would like some day a ring with this on it. He was joking about Haribo rings and he had some banter throughout. When we went to the pub, I was looking at rings (not Engagement just jewellery) with aquamarine. We looked at a few and said that he wouldn't buy me a cheap ring. Then I said what about engagement rings? As the description of a few rings was mentioning engagement. He replied, "Where did that come from " . I said it is on the description. "This isn't what it is about " he said then.
Then he continued the joke about Haribo rings and that I shouldn't wear it on my left finger in case of confusion. I said so what you wouldn't want people to think we are engaged or married? He replied definitely not with a Haribo ring lol. I said to him is that how much you value me? He said obviously he was joking about that and that love is not counted in material value. I said to him that's a part of it as well. But something about his whole reaction to the engagement ring mentions threw me off so I wasn't as warm the rest of the evening. He picked up on that and started asking what is going on and if I love him. He then said I'm his everything to him.
The thing here is that he is showing that to me daily. However I just have this feeling inside me. I dont know if I'm right or wrong here. I don't believe he is lying when he says he loves me etc.

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Cheesygirl · 13/07/2024 16:50

LochKatrine · 13/07/2024 16:46

That seems a shame. Like you're withdrawing.

Well I believe that's the best. I'm committed of course but at the level we are right now no more no less

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MalagaNights · 13/07/2024 16:49

Cheesygirl · 13/07/2024 16:46

I'll just keep my eyes open and in the meantime I'll enjoy my relationship but I won't give my all. He is my boyfriend and I'll keep the commitment to that level.

How sad for your child.

Neither of you are prepared to do the best thing for your daughter: commit to each other.

Hankunamatata · 13/07/2024 16:48

Your not fussed on marriage then I'd say to him let's book registry office ASAP and do it. No need to worry about engement rings then

LochKatrine · 13/07/2024 16:46

That seems a shame. Like you're withdrawing.

Cheesygirl · 13/07/2024 16:46

I'll just keep my eyes open and in the meantime I'll enjoy my relationship but I won't give my all. He is my boyfriend and I'll keep the commitment to that level.

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LochKatrine · 13/07/2024 16:46

Cheesygirl · 13/07/2024 16:42

He said because I was looking at rings that he was taken a bit aback and felt pressure to propose in such a short time. I said that's not what it was and anyway why would he have an issue since he is already committed. And then the conversation followed

Oh I see, thank you.

VickyEadieofThigh · 13/07/2024 16:43

Lilacapples · 13/07/2024 09:05

Eh that’s not how it works 😂. You’re not engaged until you’re actually proposed to and accept. Someone saying they want to marry you one day isn’t a proposal and you’re not engaged 😂

I've been married twice and in neither case was a proposal made.

Calliopespa · 13/07/2024 16:43

Well let’s see where that leads. But don’t wait on him too long oP.

Cheesygirl · 13/07/2024 16:42

LochKatrine · 13/07/2024 16:39

I thought you said that's what he said?
He said he felt pressured to propose, didn't he?.
I'm not having a go, I'm just confused.

He said because I was looking at rings that he was taken a bit aback and felt pressure to propose in such a short time. I said that's not what it was and anyway why would he have an issue since he is already committed. And then the conversation followed

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LochKatrine · 13/07/2024 16:39

Cheesygirl · 13/07/2024 16:25

I didn't pressure him to propose or anything. Anyway I hope things got sorted this morning

I thought you said that's what he said?
He said he felt pressured to propose, didn't he?.
I'm not having a go, I'm just confused.

MalagaNights · 13/07/2024 16:39

You want a public commitment and a ring... you should just admit you want to be married. Now.

It comes across so strongly that you are trying to convince yourself you are fine with this vague future plan. But you are not. And why should you be?

It's quite understandable. You are 37 you have a child, he says he loves you, what would you be waiting for?

The only thing you seem to be waiting for is so your daughter can hand you the rings. Which makes it seem more like you are planning a theater production not a committed life together. The ring handing over would be a brief moment and not half as significant as you imagine.

So you are going to agonise and wait for 4 years so a child can hand over a ring? Tbh that's a ridiculous reason to make such a decision.

Tell him you are ready for marriage now. You want the public commitment and the legal protection because you have a child and you both say you are committed to being together.

Get married. Get it done. You can then plan all the other things for your family: more children, home, education and the future generally.

You are putting this essential core decision on hold for a passingly cute moment in 4 years?
Don't.

Tell him now: you want to start planning a wedding.
See how he responds.
Then you'll have your answer.

Cheesygirl · 13/07/2024 16:25

LochKatrine · 13/07/2024 16:21

He felt pressured to propose? That doesn't bode well.

I didn't pressure him to propose or anything. Anyway I hope things got sorted this morning

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LochKatrine · 13/07/2024 16:21

Cheesygirl · 13/07/2024 15:55

Nothing stops me but today he said he felt kind of pressured after a bit more than a year has passed to propose.

He felt pressured to propose? That doesn't bode well.

OhcantthInkofaname · 13/07/2024 15:56

I thought in today's world two adults set down and discussed their future. Proposals aren't necessary. It's just some romanticized teenage ideal. It's silly.

Cheesygirl · 13/07/2024 15:55

SummerDays2020 · 13/07/2024 15:50

So you know when you want to marry. But what is stopping you getting engaged now? You need to speak to him about getting engaged specifically.

Edited

Nothing stops me but today he said he felt kind of pressured after a bit more than a year has passed to propose.

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Cheesygirl · 13/07/2024 15:54

Wumblewimble · 13/07/2024 15:33

You say he wanted to move in with you before you got pregnant, and then once you got pregnant you let him move in with you.

presumably this was a massive benefit for him and now he's got his feet under your table, he doesn't want to make a commitment.
what were his living circumstances before he met you.

I moved in with him not the other way round

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SummerDays2020 · 13/07/2024 15:50

So you know when you want to marry. But what is stopping you getting engaged now? You need to speak to him about getting engaged specifically.

Calliopespa · 13/07/2024 15:42

NeedToChangeName · 13/07/2024 14:58

I've said this before, on many threads like this, and I'll say it again now.......

No one should get married unless they want to

I wouldn't want to marry someone who had to be dragged down the aisle

I'd want my DH to think he was the luckiest man alive to be marrying me

I think OP is being fobbed off with suggestions of getting married with their 4 year old carrying the rings

Don't give ultimatums eg marry me or I'll leave

But, if marriage is important to you (which I sense it is, despite your protestations to the contrary), then it's reasonable to say that you would like to be married, you sense that he doesn't feel the same, that's absolutely OK / his choice, but you're now beginning to wonder whether you wish to stay with him unmarried, or if you might be better to move on. If he let's you go, that's your answer

In other words, be master of your own ship

In the meantime, manage your finances as a single person, keep your own savings, don't give up work etc

Edited

Yup

Wumblewimble · 13/07/2024 15:33

You say he wanted to move in with you before you got pregnant, and then once you got pregnant you let him move in with you.

presumably this was a massive benefit for him and now he's got his feet under your table, he doesn't want to make a commitment.
what were his living circumstances before he met you.

DanielGault · 13/07/2024 15:32

WhatsUpNowThen · 13/07/2024 11:13

The engagement for him is neither here nor there, as others have said, if you’ve had the conversation about getting married there is no need for an engagement for some people

Agree. I don't have an engagement ring and didn't have an "engagement" period. Just a conversation. He said he'd like us to be married, I said me too.
We were nowhere special, just a local pub. Rang the register office the following week and booked a month or so ahead. Very small wedding, about a dozen of us. Pub beforehand and booked a restaurant for after.

No massive 'proposal moment' and no massive wedding.
We're just as married as any other married couple.

We were the same. No engagement or engagement rings, simple enough wedding. We already had a child. We talked about getting married some day but neither of us was really pushing for it. Neither was pushing against it either though. The wedding was just something to get around to really. Had a lovely day when we eventually did.

Pinkbonbon · 13/07/2024 15:20

I think maybe you're not thinking longterm atm.brcause you're happy with him and just think of this as a speed-bump.

But he is managing down your expectations.

He should have proposed by now.
You should be discussing weddings. Even if it's just a rough date a year or two in the future.
You should be thinking about if you want more kids and that there are consequences for that if he delays things for years.

But you're just so focused on getting the bare minimum level of commitment promise from him that you'll be...Happy to wait 4 years till a wedding!?

Sorry but...he's just dangling a carrot when he should be working to provide you with the whole field. And he likely thinks if he makes that one carrot all you see, you'll be so happy when you finally get it, that you'll ignore what you are actually supposed to have grown together.

Tv23456 · 13/07/2024 15:18

Cheesygirl · 13/07/2024 15:02

No he doesn't. I'll give another example. In my labour room when I was giving birth the midwives and doctors assumed he is my husband. I didn't correct them and neither did he.

More likely he was well aware at the age of ye both, particularly him in his 40's the moniker "boyfriend" would have drawn sniggers.

I can read clearly you want it to be so and I feel for you, but you really are going to have to put yourself first and be firm.

Why would you be buying a house with him without marriage?
Keep your money separate except for bills.
He's getting it all, baby, house, all the huge commitments from you....except the one that would give a formality to your relationship.

Can you not see that he is getting it all and you not?

Why would you get financially entangled without marriage.

If you don't give your head a real wobble you are going to end up one very disappointed woman, another salutary tale of a woman giving everything and being thoroughly disrespected in the process.

I'd be looking at telling him No to any house buying without marriage and I would be looking at buying a house myself.

I certainly wouldn't be spending the next few years prostrating myself to him to marry me.

You made an enormous leap of faith having a child with him only knowing him weeks.

Value yourself more, you deserve better than his rabbit in the lights routine🙄fuxk that.

Calliopespa · 13/07/2024 15:17

… I’m really glad I asked your age and I’m really glad you clarified because I think it puts a totally different complexion on it.

Now wondering how many other posts I have given awful advice in as I didn’t have all the facts… 😰

SwedishEdith · 13/07/2024 15:16

"For example many people in medical settings assume he is my husband or fiance and I'm correcting them.it just doesn't look good"

Doesn't look good to who? People just default to the probable when using titles etc. They don't actually care, just make a best guess.

Must admit, I can't imagine a 41 year old bloke talking about their daughter carrying the ring at the wedding. I don't think most blokes give a crap about that kind of stuff. Was that your suggestion?

Calliopespa · 13/07/2024 15:15

Needmorelego · 13/07/2024 15:08

@Cheesygirl to be honest midwives don't have time to remember if a couple are married, engaged, girlfriend/boyfriend, planning to co-parent and not together or whatever.
That isn't their priority to think about.
It would only be important for tragic reasons like the mother needing emergency surgery or dying and official next of kin is required.
You didn't "need" to correct them at that particular moment in time and even if you had said "actually we aren't married" - they wouldn't have cared.

Exactly. It’s neither here nor there. This is about you and your security OP.

At the beginning of this thread, I thought you were being a bit pressurising and unfair on a young guy who was having to grow up fast after getting himself in a spot of baby bother.

Now I just think he’s being massively immature and unfair on you.