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To have a niggling feeling that my bf won't propose to me?

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Cheesygirl · 13/07/2024 08:45

I have a niggling feeling that my bf won't propose to me. We have a very good relationship where he is thoughtful takes care of me, gifts etc.
I fell pregnant very early in the relationship and now we have a six month old daughter. He is a good father(he now does 50% that I have gone back to work). We are saving to buy a house, he has a life insurance set up for me and my daughter and he shows he is committed all the way.
However I have the niggling feeling he won't propose to me for engagement or marriage. He says he wants to marry me and our daughter to be a bridesmaid in our wedding when she is about 3-4 and he has told other people as well.
He hasn't However spoken about any engagement interim or any other form of formal commitment. I asked him to sign a cohabitation agreement with me but didn't want to saying real love doesn't need contracts and he finds it insulting.
I do believe that he loves me a lot he is saying that daily and doing things to prove it so there's no doubt about that. Yesterday we were on a date day at the Natural History Museum and we were at the gemstone section. I told him that I like the aquamarine stone and I would like some day a ring with this on it. He was joking about Haribo rings and he had some banter throughout. When we went to the pub, I was looking at rings (not Engagement just jewellery) with aquamarine. We looked at a few and said that he wouldn't buy me a cheap ring. Then I said what about engagement rings? As the description of a few rings was mentioning engagement. He replied, "Where did that come from " . I said it is on the description. "This isn't what it is about " he said then.
Then he continued the joke about Haribo rings and that I shouldn't wear it on my left finger in case of confusion. I said so what you wouldn't want people to think we are engaged or married? He replied definitely not with a Haribo ring lol. I said to him is that how much you value me? He said obviously he was joking about that and that love is not counted in material value. I said to him that's a part of it as well. But something about his whole reaction to the engagement ring mentions threw me off so I wasn't as warm the rest of the evening. He picked up on that and started asking what is going on and if I love him. He then said I'm his everything to him.
The thing here is that he is showing that to me daily. However I just have this feeling inside me. I dont know if I'm right or wrong here. I don't believe he is lying when he says he loves me etc.

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Allthegoodnamesaregone1 · 13/07/2024 09:18

It doesn't sound like he's ready for marrige.
You haven't been together that long.

As above if it doesn't come what are you going to do? Break up?

You were complacent in the order your relationship progressed. You've got the baby and the house so there's no incentive now.

Just nurture your relationship and stay independent.

If he ever mentions another baby then you've got something to work with.

No other babies until after marrige.
Just don't let your brooodiness let that down.

LochKatrine · 13/07/2024 09:17

They have a child together. It's not a "rush".

NCfor24 · 13/07/2024 09:15

Could he be avoiding the conversation because he plans to propose but doesn't want you to suspect?
Like maybe he has mentally clocked aquamarine and the Haribo comment is deflection to put you off?
Maybe back off, don't force an engagement because you won't be happy with that either, and see how things pan out. You've not been together that long, there is no real rush after all.

Revelatio · 13/07/2024 09:14

Just tell him you don’t want a ring or a grand proposal. You just want to get married. You can do this cheaply at a registry office. If he wants a big wedding say you will do that in a few years time when you’ve saved up and you can have a big wedding party then, but you want to be legally married now.

ShiteRider · 13/07/2024 09:12

This isn’t going to be what you want to hear but from a different perspective I felt stressed and pressured just reading your original post with the way you kept on hinting about rings. It would have made me back off too.

It sounds like you want the grand engagement gesture and are pinning everything on that, his vision relates to the wedding. The engagement for him is neither here nor there, as others have said, if you’ve had the conversation about getting married there is no need for an engagement for some people.

HappiestSleeping · 13/07/2024 09:12

Cheesygirl · 13/07/2024 09:03

Our daughter has legally both of our surnames. I'm just scared I'm gonna be steung along and be the forever gf. We discussed exactly this and he said he wouldn't want me to be the forever gf either. But why did he react so funny at the mention of rings if that's the case

Have you asked him to marry you? We're in 2024, so no reason you can't propose to him.

LochKatrine · 13/07/2024 09:11

I'm just going to repeat pp: sit down and have a conversation like adults. Discuss when you're getting married and start to plan it.
This seems so regressive - why is it the decision of the man? Why are you waiting for him to make a choice about your future?
Why all the silly conversations about Haribo? You needed to say "I don't want a Haribo ring, I would like an aquamarine engagement ring, and for us to plan a wedding".

paywalled · 13/07/2024 09:10

Cheesygirl · 13/07/2024 09:03

Our daughter has legally both of our surnames. I'm just scared I'm gonna be steung along and be the forever gf. We discussed exactly this and he said he wouldn't want me to be the forever gf either. But why did he react so funny at the mention of rings if that's the case

You’r right to be worried. Tell him you want a registry wedding now, and when baby is 3/4, he can have his aisle wedding.

Shinyandnew1 · 13/07/2024 09:09

asked him to sign a cohabitation agreement with me but didn't want to saying real love doesn't need contracts and he finds it insulting.

What would this give you and why didn’t he want it? Are you 50/50 on the mortgage? Are you both working full time/earning similar amounts?

Lostworlds · 13/07/2024 09:09

My dh used to be like this, he just wasn’t ready to get engaged. He would talk about some far off future wedding and whenever we went to weddings he would say what he liked or didn’t like for ours ‘some day’.
I would look at engagement rings and asked him what he thought but he would say the same that he didn’t want to buy anything ‘cheap’.
I eventually spoke to him about wanting to know where our life was leading and he did say he wanted to get married and to settle down with me but he wasn’t ready yet and needed a bit more time. Not to be single and run around but to get himself ready financially and emotionally.
We have now been married for 5 years and have 2 children.

I think you need to speak openly with him and ask what he’s wanting. Explain you’re not demanding an engagement now but want to know if it’s on the cards for you two as getting married is important to you.

Thursdaygirl · 13/07/2024 09:08

quockerwodger · 13/07/2024 08:55

Sit him down and talk to him, no nonsense about haribo or hinting about gems..

"Marriage is important to me. If it is not important to you I need to know."

If he starts filling the air with flannel or anger, that should tell you everything.

Now the question is;

Is marriage so important that you'd bin him off and hope you meet a guy that wants to marry you.

This. You need a proper, clear discussion

Wumblewimble · 13/07/2024 09:07

I think he's swerving the situation and I can understand why you are posting. It's not so much that he hadn't done a big proposal, it's that you feel marriage isn't going to happen, and you are Miss Right Now, not Miss Right.
to quote other mumsnetters if he wanted to marry you , you'd know.
are you in the deeds to the house?

TheStateOfTheArt · 13/07/2024 09:07

Cheesygirl · 13/07/2024 08:59

I actually am wary myself that's why I'm asking this question here

Then have a very clear conversation with him.

“When do you see us getting engaged, and when would you like to be married? 6 months, a year?”.

or

”I’d like to be married by X date. Can we please discuss this?”

If he deflects, he’s probably never going to marry. And you either accept that, if he’s a great partner in every other way, and make sure you protect yourself (keep working, have your own savings, pension and income, both named as tenants in common or joint tenants on the mortgage) or you don’t accept it and you leave him.

KnickerlessParsons · 13/07/2024 09:07

It's 2024. You can propose to him. If he says no, you know where you stand. If he says yes, get him to agree a date - even if in the future - and start checking out venues, and get something booked. If he says no to that, you're back to knowing where you are.

LochKatrine · 13/07/2024 09:07

Changingplace · 13/07/2024 08:49

If you want to get engaged and get married then you need to discuss it like adults, he doesn’t get to take sole responsibility for when/if/how this happens.

You don’t have to sit patiently and passively for him to make this decision, it’s a joint decision, just talk to him properly.

This 💯

CountryMumof4 · 13/07/2024 09:05

If you've made it clear you'd like to get married and he's mentioned marriage in the future, I think I'd just sit back and enjoy your relationship for a while and see. He might actually be planning something within the next year or two anyway. I was convinced my husband was never going to propose, despite him talking about marriage multiple times, and after a few of these conversations I decided just to wait and see - within a year I'd been whisked off to my favourite place and he proposed there. Try to relax.
The most important thing at the moment is building a happy, stable life for the three of you.

Lilacapples · 13/07/2024 09:05

DracoDormiensNumquamTittilandum · 13/07/2024 08:56

Right. But if he said he wants to marry you and you said you do too then you're engaged. You don't need a proposal to be engaged. You just need to agree to get married. Can you bring it up and discuss it properly?

Eh that’s not how it works 😂. You’re not engaged until you’re actually proposed to and accept. Someone saying they want to marry you one day isn’t a proposal and you’re not engaged 😂

Sidebeforeself · 13/07/2024 09:04

You are adults - parents!- so should be able to have a direct, clear conversation about this. No , jokes, hints etc.

I have to say that he is trotting out all the lines though e.g. wants to marry you at some indeterminate point, tugging your hear strings with the image of your little girl being a bridesmaid etc.

You need to decide what your personal boundaries are, and what you are prepared to do if he wont agree to them .Then sit him down and talk.

Cheesygirl · 13/07/2024 09:03

Greenleavesinthesun · 13/07/2024 09:00

Make sure the next child has your surname as I’m assuming your current child doesnt. This is where women go wrong, they give no reason for the man to marry as the girlfriend plays the wife for free.

Our daughter has legally both of our surnames. I'm just scared I'm gonna be steung along and be the forever gf. We discussed exactly this and he said he wouldn't want me to be the forever gf either. But why did he react so funny at the mention of rings if that's the case

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NamelessNancy · 13/07/2024 09:02

It's madness to me that so many women in 2024 are waiting for a man to make decisions like this for them.

Can't you sit down together and agree to marry or not like equals in the relationship?

alwaysmovingforwards · 13/07/2024 09:02

thebluebeyond · 13/07/2024 08:52

exactly

I agree, it does seem to be all about the ring.
Sorry OP, but ‘grabby’ is the work that springs to mind.

TheStateOfTheArt · 13/07/2024 09:01

DracoDormiensNumquamTittilandum · 13/07/2024 08:56

Right. But if he said he wants to marry you and you said you do too then you're engaged. You don't need a proposal to be engaged. You just need to agree to get married. Can you bring it up and discuss it properly?

I know what you mean, but I disagree with this purely because some people say “yes I want to marry you” but leave unspoken the bit that’s important “at some point”. They won’t commit to timelines or dates, and it’s a breadcrumbing tactic to keep you interested. If you dared suggest to them that you are already engaged because you both agreed to be married they go ballistic.

Greenleavesinthesun · 13/07/2024 09:00

Make sure the next child has your surname as I’m assuming your current child doesnt. This is where women go wrong, they give no reason for the man to marry as the girlfriend plays the wife for free.

MissUltraViolet · 13/07/2024 09:00

He clearly loves you and is committed to you. You've discussed it and he has said he wants to get married and wants your daughter to be a bridesmaid so presumably, as you have said, he wants to wait until she is older and can be involved more on the day.

An expensive ring isn't the be all and end all. You also don't sound like you have been together that long either yet - got pregnant quickly, child is only 6 months, relax a little! Maybe he has something special planned and the more you push and sulk the more it'll push him back. Maybe it'll happen in a few months or a year or so. Just enjoy your new little family for now.

Cheesygirl · 13/07/2024 09:00

DracoDormiensNumquamTittilandum · 13/07/2024 08:56

Right. But if he said he wants to marry you and you said you do too then you're engaged. You don't need a proposal to be engaged. You just need to agree to get married. Can you bring it up and discuss it properly?

Lol how are we engaged if I'm his gf??? He made that clear

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