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To have a niggling feeling that my bf won't propose to me?

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Cheesygirl · 13/07/2024 08:45

I have a niggling feeling that my bf won't propose to me. We have a very good relationship where he is thoughtful takes care of me, gifts etc.
I fell pregnant very early in the relationship and now we have a six month old daughter. He is a good father(he now does 50% that I have gone back to work). We are saving to buy a house, he has a life insurance set up for me and my daughter and he shows he is committed all the way.
However I have the niggling feeling he won't propose to me for engagement or marriage. He says he wants to marry me and our daughter to be a bridesmaid in our wedding when she is about 3-4 and he has told other people as well.
He hasn't However spoken about any engagement interim or any other form of formal commitment. I asked him to sign a cohabitation agreement with me but didn't want to saying real love doesn't need contracts and he finds it insulting.
I do believe that he loves me a lot he is saying that daily and doing things to prove it so there's no doubt about that. Yesterday we were on a date day at the Natural History Museum and we were at the gemstone section. I told him that I like the aquamarine stone and I would like some day a ring with this on it. He was joking about Haribo rings and he had some banter throughout. When we went to the pub, I was looking at rings (not Engagement just jewellery) with aquamarine. We looked at a few and said that he wouldn't buy me a cheap ring. Then I said what about engagement rings? As the description of a few rings was mentioning engagement. He replied, "Where did that come from " . I said it is on the description. "This isn't what it is about " he said then.
Then he continued the joke about Haribo rings and that I shouldn't wear it on my left finger in case of confusion. I said so what you wouldn't want people to think we are engaged or married? He replied definitely not with a Haribo ring lol. I said to him is that how much you value me? He said obviously he was joking about that and that love is not counted in material value. I said to him that's a part of it as well. But something about his whole reaction to the engagement ring mentions threw me off so I wasn't as warm the rest of the evening. He picked up on that and started asking what is going on and if I love him. He then said I'm his everything to him.
The thing here is that he is showing that to me daily. However I just have this feeling inside me. I dont know if I'm right or wrong here. I don't believe he is lying when he says he loves me etc.

OP posts:
Gorgonemilezola · 13/07/2024 09:55

DracoDormiensNumquamTittilandum · 13/07/2024 09:49

You'd be surprised at how uncommitted people can be and still manage to make a child 🤷🏼‍♀️

So OP needs to know that. If he isn't committed he needs to be honest with her so she can decide what to do. Kicking the can down the road with a vague promise of 3-4 years is not cutting it.

If he had the honesty to say 'I love you and our child, I see us as an equal partnership, I'm here for the long haul but I don't want to get married,', that's OK - it may not be what the OP wants to hear, but he's been honest, and this allows OP the space to decide what she wants. Vaguely pointing to a wedding at some misty point in the future helps no-one.

WaltzingWaters · 13/07/2024 09:55

It sounds like you’ve not actually been together that long.
Make sure you ensure financial stability for yourself and protect yourself and your child whilst you’re not married, but it does sound as though it’s still a bit early to be putting the pressure on about a proposal. That said, you can discuss it with him like adults - that marriage is something that is very important to you and what timeline you’d expect, and if you’re not on the same page you assess the situation.

Bigearringsbigsmile · 13/07/2024 09:54

This is.why you get the ring on your finger before you have the baby.

LochKatrine · 13/07/2024 09:52

If he's committed to marriage and she wants a ring, what's the problem?
HTH, @Spirallingdownwards

Calliopespa · 13/07/2024 09:52

SlebBB · 13/07/2024 09:34

If you’re getting married when your child is 3 or 4, suggest booking the wedding now and express a desire to look at venues. You’ll soon see if he’s stalling you!

In fairness he might not be stalling as much as making sure he feels their relationship has a future. They have not been together long. Being sure about the workability of things is not stalling, it’s sensible. Sounds to me like he thinks about three years is thd time he needs. That’s not a ludicrous window.

Spirallingdownwards · 13/07/2024 09:51

LochKatrine · 13/07/2024 09:47

"make him back off"?
How is discussing your future with the father of your child putting him under pressure, being unreasonable or likely to make him "back off"?
He's an adult with a child and needs to be part of a discussion, as is the OP.

in the sense if he has in mind marriage in 4 years constant pressure from her to be formally engaged could lead to problems within the relationship. They have already had that conversation you refer to and he has said that he anticipates them being married in 3 to 4 years time and at no point of this thread has the OP said she feels this to be unacceptable to her. She just wants the formality of an engagement and a ring now. And he seems not to. The more she pressurises him for this the more likely he is to back off or not want to discuss it at all. HTH

Roundeartheratchriatmas · 13/07/2024 09:50

It doesn’t sound like he is going to marry you. He has everything he wants right now - and the ability to walk away at any time.

Are your finances joint ?

DracoDormiensNumquamTittilandum · 13/07/2024 09:50

Cheesygirl · 13/07/2024 09:47

In all seriousness we haven't been together that long it's 1.5 years and I don't really care that much about marriage right now but I would like a formal acknowledgement of the relationship or serious intentions for that.

If you don't care about marriage then stop focusing on an engagement. Engagement without plans to get married means nothing.

Gorgonemilezola · 13/07/2024 09:49

Cheesygirl · 13/07/2024 09:47

In all seriousness we haven't been together that long it's 1.5 years and I don't really care that much about marriage right now but I would like a formal acknowledgement of the relationship or serious intentions for that.

But a 'formal acknowledgement' means absolutely squat in the real world.

He could buy you the aquamarine ring and you'd be in exactly the same place in 3, 5, 10 years.

Calliopespa · 13/07/2024 09:49

Cheesygirl · 13/07/2024 09:47

In all seriousness we haven't been together that long it's 1.5 years and I don't really care that much about marriage right now but I would like a formal acknowledgement of the relationship or serious intentions for that.

Well if I wanted to string someone along without actually doing anything “ serious” I’d buy them a sparkly engagement ring in the knowledge that it was nothing more than that . If serious is what you want, you’d be better to push the cohabitation agreement.

DracoDormiensNumquamTittilandum · 13/07/2024 09:49

Gorgonemilezola · 13/07/2024 09:44

'It doesn't sound like he's ready for marrige.
You haven't been together that long.'

They have a child together Hmm. Surely you don't have a child if you're not fully committed. Together long enough to have a child but not long enough for marriage.

Cop out, sorry.

You'd be surprised at how uncommitted people can be and still manage to make a child 🤷🏼‍♀️

ShiteRider · 13/07/2024 09:49

Cheesygirl · 13/07/2024 09:47

In all seriousness we haven't been together that long it's 1.5 years and I don't really care that much about marriage right now but I would like a formal acknowledgement of the relationship or serious intentions for that.

You’ve got a child together, that’s about as big a commitment as it gets

Needmorelego · 13/07/2024 09:48

@Cheesygirl how about a Civil Partnership instead?

LochKatrine · 13/07/2024 09:47

"make him back off"?
How is discussing your future with the father of your child putting him under pressure, being unreasonable or likely to make him "back off"?
He's an adult with a child and needs to be part of a discussion, as is the OP.

Calliopespa · 13/07/2024 09:47

Gorgonemilezola · 13/07/2024 09:44

'It doesn't sound like he's ready for marrige.
You haven't been together that long.'

They have a child together Hmm. Surely you don't have a child if you're not fully committed. Together long enough to have a child but not long enough for marriage.

Cop out, sorry.

In theory. But I think the baby was a surprise.

Cheesygirl · 13/07/2024 09:47

In all seriousness we haven't been together that long it's 1.5 years and I don't really care that much about marriage right now but I would like a formal acknowledgement of the relationship or serious intentions for that.

OP posts:
Spirallingdownwards · 13/07/2024 09:46

Cheesygirl · 13/07/2024 09:03

Our daughter has legally both of our surnames. I'm just scared I'm gonna be steung along and be the forever gf. We discussed exactly this and he said he wouldn't want me to be the forever gf either. But why did he react so funny at the mention of rings if that's the case

because it is too soon for his timeline. It will happen when it happens. The more you apply pressure over this whether overtly or in a passive aggressive way the more likely you are to make him back off. Currently to him it feels like you are pressurising him into an engagement.

Concentrate on being a happy couple and a happy family and it will then happen naturally.

TheBottomsOfMyTrousersAreRolled · 13/07/2024 09:45

Sounds like youve not even been together two years. How soon did you move in together? And how old are you both?

And don’t have any more children with him until you are married.
This.

LochKatrine · 13/07/2024 09:45

Gorgonemilezola · 13/07/2024 09:44

'It doesn't sound like he's ready for marrige.
You haven't been together that long.'

They have a child together Hmm. Surely you don't have a child if you're not fully committed. Together long enough to have a child but not long enough for marriage.

Cop out, sorry.

I completely agree. If you have a child together you can't just act like "boyfriend and girlfriend" because that has changed.

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 13/07/2024 09:45

Cheesygirl · 13/07/2024 08:51

But he already said he wants to marry me and the way and the timeline. I'm just surprised of his reaction I described above that has filled me with doubts.

If his way and his timeline doesn't work for you (and it wouldn't work for me) then you should tell him that.

SoupDragon · 13/07/2024 09:45

Do you want to marry him? You've never proposed to him either.... 🤷🏻‍♀️

do women really need to wait about for a man to propose in the 21st century?

AppropriateAdult · 13/07/2024 09:45

If you had previously discussed marriage and he had expressed a preference for doing it in 3-4 years, and you agreed to this (or seemed to), I can understand him being a bit taken aback at a sudden discussion about engagement rings.

If that timeline no longer works for you then you need to have an honest and adult discussion about it, OP. But FWIW it does sound like he is committed to you and your child in the ways that matter.

Gorgonemilezola · 13/07/2024 09:44

'It doesn't sound like he's ready for marrige.
You haven't been together that long.'

They have a child together Hmm. Surely you don't have a child if you're not fully committed. Together long enough to have a child but not long enough for marriage.

Cop out, sorry.

Sethera · 13/07/2024 09:42

You should have a proper, open conversation about this - not dance around it by dropping hints about aquamarine rings and Haribo rings. If you can't have a sensible, adult discussion about getting married, then getting married probably isn't a good idea. Don't wait around for 'a proposal'; this isn't 1952.

Ponoka7 · 13/07/2024 09:41

Are all your savings in the joint account? That needs rethinking. As said make sure that things are fair financially. During maternity leave, you should have put in less and you should now have the ability to overly your pension if there was any pension loss. Buying a house is pie in the sky and you can combine savings at the point of an offer. You need a back up plan if things don't work out and don't underestimate how shit men can turn when they are moving on. I've known IVF, hands on fathers just walk away. Don't be the only one to take time off if your child us ill etc. Come next year, you can say start making wedding plans, or stop lying about marriage.