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To think that dogs shouldn't be in toilets?

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LittlePearDrop · 13/07/2024 08:28

I'm currently camping.

There's signs on the toilet / shower block door clearly indicating "No Dogs". Not small signs. Very obvious.

Went for a shower first thing this morning and a woman brought a dog into the toilet next to me. It poked its head under the gap and had a sniff. I just ignored it.

Took my daughter an hour later and whilst I'm waiting for her, another woman brings another dog in. This time, thinking maybe she has missed the sign, I said, very politely and calmly "Oh it's no dogs in here".

She immediately became defensive, saying there's no one else to look after him (there's a fence outside she could have tied him to) and that he would "cry" if left outside. Errm, so what? Dogs whine. It's not the end of the world.

AIBU to think that if the signs say "no dogs" then it means "no dogs" and not, "Well ok your dog can come in because it might whine if left alone for a minute"?

OP posts:
Calliopespa · 14/07/2024 22:21

fliptopbin · 14/07/2024 22:16

I think the fault here is the campsite. Either it is dog friendly or it isn't. If I had a dog and went solo camping, I would be quite annoyed at having to turn around and go home because I couldn't"t take my dog in the toilets.
Because it seems that this would be the only way to keep my dog safe and avoid being hated by everybody.

I think this is the heart of the issue too.

It’s perfectly ok for an establishment to decide it isn’t dog friendly; but to advertise and lure campers in as being dog friendly then make a facility that it is perfectly reasonable to expect campers will need access to on a regular basis throughout their stay not dog friendly is just perverse. It’s like allowing people to check in at the airport with hand luggage declared but then not allowing them to board the plane with it.

WiddlinDiddlin · 14/07/2024 22:16

Werweisswohin · 14/07/2024 22:12

I've made my points.
I'm off to gloat about how it's not coming home.....😬

Oh good is footing-the-ball finished now?

Is normal tv resuming?

Can I stop finding goady threads to fight about on the internet to liven my boring Sunday work shift of boringness?

Huzzah.

fliptopbin · 14/07/2024 22:16

I think the fault here is the campsite. Either it is dog friendly or it isn't. If I had a dog and went solo camping, I would be quite annoyed at having to turn around and go home because I couldn't"t take my dog in the toilets.
Because it seems that this would be the only way to keep my dog safe and avoid being hated by everybody.

Greenlittecat · 14/07/2024 22:14

vodkaredbullgirl · 14/07/2024 22:09

You lot not done yet?🙂

Never! Justice for obeying signs 😂

Calliopespa · 14/07/2024 22:14

Werweisswohin · 14/07/2024 22:13

I did.

We all seem to have missed it. Good points are worth reiterating.

Werweisswohin · 14/07/2024 22:13

Calliopespa · 14/07/2024 22:12

Nope. If you want to make your point you can.

I did.

Calliopespa · 14/07/2024 22:12

Werweisswohin · 14/07/2024 22:07

Look harder.

Nope. If you want to make your point you can.

Werweisswohin · 14/07/2024 22:12

WiddlinDiddlin · 14/07/2024 22:11

What twisting?

That seems to be the basics, and the one I forgot too, that people haaaaaaaate the idea that dog owners generally prioritise their own dog over random humans. Particularly the ones still in larval form.

I've made my points.
I'm off to gloat about how it's not coming home.....😬

Munter · 14/07/2024 22:11

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WiddlinDiddlin · 14/07/2024 22:11

Werweisswohin · 14/07/2024 22:08

Nice twisting there.
No wonder people are sick of entitled dog owners.

What twisting?

That seems to be the basics, and the one I forgot too, that people haaaaaaaate the idea that dog owners generally prioritise their own dog over random humans. Particularly the ones still in larval form.

vodkaredbullgirl · 14/07/2024 22:09

You lot not done yet?🙂

WiddlinDiddlin · 14/07/2024 22:09

Calliopespa · 14/07/2024 22:07

Ah I see. Why are these highly allergic dog phobic people at dog friendly campsites?

Not a clue. Some sort of holiday scheme for horribly dog allergic, dog phobic people?

Greenlittecat · 14/07/2024 22:09

Calliopespa · 14/07/2024 21:56

But has anyone actually articulated WHAT the issue is? Apart from being irritated that “ entitled” people are getting their own way?

Do dogs steal their food off their plates at cafes? Do these people like to eat bits they have dropped on the floor and think having dogs in there makes it more unhygienic to do this? Or that the dog will beat them to it? Do they not like dogs seeing them naked in shower cubicles? I’m just not managing to see what the substantive issue with it is. Is it simply intolerance?

For me the issue is people ignoring the rules.

At this point I'm going to put this on my headstone but if a sign says no dogs it means no dogs!

PuttingDownRoots · 14/07/2024 22:08

It would have been banned due to irresponsible dog owners allowing their their animals to damage things, or make a mess.

Werweisswohin · 14/07/2024 22:08

WiddlinDiddlin · 14/07/2024 22:06

The issues appear to be:

Someone with a horrible allergy might also need to use the facilities/venue/location.

Someone with a terrible dog phobia may need to use the facilities/venue/location.

It's not allowed, theres a sign that says so, so dog owners who ignore the sign are awfully entitled and their dogs are all disease ridden, child eating, slavering mutts from hell??

Nice twisting there.
No wonder people are sick of entitled dog owners.

WiddlinDiddlin · 14/07/2024 22:08

Ahhhhhh my bad..

Thats the issue.

That dog owners believe their dogs are more important than people.

Thats the one.

Werweisswohin · 14/07/2024 22:07

Calliopespa · 14/07/2024 22:06

Yes it is simply intolerance? Or yes someone has explained what the issue is?

I can only see you saying that just because others don’t see an issue doesn’t mean there isn’t one?

Look harder.

Calliopespa · 14/07/2024 22:07

WiddlinDiddlin · 14/07/2024 22:06

The issues appear to be:

Someone with a horrible allergy might also need to use the facilities/venue/location.

Someone with a terrible dog phobia may need to use the facilities/venue/location.

It's not allowed, theres a sign that says so, so dog owners who ignore the sign are awfully entitled and their dogs are all disease ridden, child eating, slavering mutts from hell??

Ah I see. Why are these highly allergic dog phobic people at dog friendly campsites?

Calliopespa · 14/07/2024 22:06

Werweisswohin · 14/07/2024 21:58

Yes, I replied above.

Yes it is simply intolerance? Or yes someone has explained what the issue is?

I can only see you saying that just because others don’t see an issue doesn’t mean there isn’t one?

WiddlinDiddlin · 14/07/2024 22:06

The issues appear to be:

Someone with a horrible allergy might also need to use the facilities/venue/location.

Someone with a terrible dog phobia may need to use the facilities/venue/location.

It's not allowed, theres a sign that says so, so dog owners who ignore the sign are awfully entitled and their dogs are all disease ridden, child eating, slavering mutts from hell??

Werweisswohin · 14/07/2024 22:05

PC7102 · 14/07/2024 22:00

that is someone else’s opinion that there is an issue. Other people don’t have an issue. Both are opinions and not facts. I see more of an issue with leaving dogs outside on their own than letting them in a toilet. Other humans are more of an issue in toilets than dogs

Dogs aren't more important than humans.
Respect signs.

PC7102 · 14/07/2024 22:00

Werweisswohin · 14/07/2024 21:13

You not seeing an issue with it doesn't mean there isn't an issue with it. 🫣

that is someone else’s opinion that there is an issue. Other people don’t have an issue. Both are opinions and not facts. I see more of an issue with leaving dogs outside on their own than letting them in a toilet. Other humans are more of an issue in toilets than dogs

Werweisswohin · 14/07/2024 21:58

Calliopespa · 14/07/2024 21:56

But has anyone actually articulated WHAT the issue is? Apart from being irritated that “ entitled” people are getting their own way?

Do dogs steal their food off their plates at cafes? Do these people like to eat bits they have dropped on the floor and think having dogs in there makes it more unhygienic to do this? Or that the dog will beat them to it? Do they not like dogs seeing them naked in shower cubicles? I’m just not managing to see what the substantive issue with it is. Is it simply intolerance?

Yes, I replied above.

Calliopespa · 14/07/2024 21:56

Werweisswohin · 14/07/2024 21:13

You not seeing an issue with it doesn't mean there isn't an issue with it. 🫣

But has anyone actually articulated WHAT the issue is? Apart from being irritated that “ entitled” people are getting their own way?

Do dogs steal their food off their plates at cafes? Do these people like to eat bits they have dropped on the floor and think having dogs in there makes it more unhygienic to do this? Or that the dog will beat them to it? Do they not like dogs seeing them naked in shower cubicles? I’m just not managing to see what the substantive issue with it is. Is it simply intolerance?

CommeUneVacheEspagnole · 14/07/2024 21:23

@Munter the dog wouldn't be sticking his head out. If someone sticks their head in, I think me and the dog would be within reason to bite it off - but he wouldn't.

I have once taken the dog in the toilet with me and it was fine. I'd always make sure I didn't just walk out etc, I'm aware not all people like dogs and don't want them around them. Otherwise, he is firmly left with a responsible adult so I can wee in peace.