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To think that dogs shouldn't be in toilets?

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LittlePearDrop · 13/07/2024 08:28

I'm currently camping.

There's signs on the toilet / shower block door clearly indicating "No Dogs". Not small signs. Very obvious.

Went for a shower first thing this morning and a woman brought a dog into the toilet next to me. It poked its head under the gap and had a sniff. I just ignored it.

Took my daughter an hour later and whilst I'm waiting for her, another woman brings another dog in. This time, thinking maybe she has missed the sign, I said, very politely and calmly "Oh it's no dogs in here".

She immediately became defensive, saying there's no one else to look after him (there's a fence outside she could have tied him to) and that he would "cry" if left outside. Errm, so what? Dogs whine. It's not the end of the world.

AIBU to think that if the signs say "no dogs" then it means "no dogs" and not, "Well ok your dog can come in because it might whine if left alone for a minute"?

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Flossflower · 13/07/2024 10:05

I would report it to the office at the campsite. It is so easy to pop your dog in the car for 10 minutes and for that amount of time wouldn’t need the windows open. People seem to want to take their dogs everywhere with them. This is probably why we have so many dogs that are nervous and can’t be left.
A couple of years ago I confronted a woman who had brought her dog into a children’s playground even though the sign on the gate said no dogs. Her reply was that he wasn’t doing any harm. I told her that either she would be removing the dog on I would. In the end she left her child alone in the playground and took her dog out. Clearly the dog was more important than her child!

Fartooold · 13/07/2024 10:04

I'm an inadequate widow, so unfortunately have to camp solo with my two dogs.
I'm in a campervan though, so just leave them there if I need to have the luxury of a big shower instead of my tiny one.
PP mentioned not being allowed to leave dogs unattended in caravan - do they bark furiously? If not, how would anyone know? I regularly leave my two to sleep for an hour or two whilst I swim/shop etc.,
The only time I have ever taken dogs into a loo with me was when I was desperate for a pee on an early morning beach walk. There was no one around and I couldn't find anywhere to tie them to, so took them in.
I love dogs, have always had them, but hate the 'take them everywhere' attitude, particularly in clothes shops - what dog would choose a wander around Fat Face rather than a romp around the park ???

Greenlittecat · 13/07/2024 10:02

Yanbu.

If the signs says no dogs, it means no dogs. Not "no dogs unless you're on your own/ it's a bit nervous/ it cries/I'll only be a second."

People treat dogs like babies, it's absolutely ridiculous!

Janiie · 13/07/2024 10:00

LadyGrinningSoul8517 · 13/07/2024 09:55

You'll get a lot of hate from the dog obsessives (I guess because the truth hurts?) but I agree totally.

Why the spite and bile? We have a dog, I'm not obsessed. She's a pet they are not a new phenomenon.
Why quote a pp saying dog owners are 'inadequate', it's a really unpleasant mindset to have.
Dogs should be on a lead, under control. This one in public toilets was so again, what is the issue?

Gettingannoyednow · 13/07/2024 10:00

If you need to take a dog into the shower block with you then book campsites where this is allowed.

fuzzybritches · 13/07/2024 09:58

"You'll get a lot of hate from the dog obsessives (I guess because the truth hurts?) but I agree totally."

You don't have to be a 'dog obsessive' to recognise it's a cunty comment to label someone 'inadequate' because they form attachments to dogs. An elderly friend of mine has lost pretty much every relative he has and now finds comfort and companionship in his dog. I would suspect he's a far more adequate human than you and the poster who wrote the original comment which I won't even quote because it's vile.

bozzabollix · 13/07/2024 09:58

I wouldn’t leave my dogs unattended. They do get stolen and that’s not happening because there’s a load of anti dog people on Mumsnet.

LaurieFairyCake · 13/07/2024 09:58

If I had no one to leave them with I'd be going around asking neighbours at a campsite/hiring a teenager to watch them

If really no one I'd take all of them with me in the shower if I had to shower - there's no way I'd leave them outside to be stolen

I think non dog owners don't get sometimes how truly horrible people are. There was a story in the paper about a group of teenagers who untied an old ladies dog, it ran into the road and died Sad

Calliopespa · 13/07/2024 09:58

Op could you not have just said loudly:

“Could the owner of the dog ogling me in the shower with his tongue hanging out 👅 please move him away from my cubicle.” 🐶

LilBowWow · 13/07/2024 09:56

Non dog owners always go so ott with their responses. Inadequate, selfish, entitled and so on. Dog owners seem so much calmer and more rational. Coincidence?

fuzzybritches · 13/07/2024 09:55

"What about a small pervy one?!"

Might feel different if it was a peeper 😂

Calliopespa · 13/07/2024 09:55

LibertyDuck · 13/07/2024 09:41

Why not? It's a dog, not a child.

And to everyone saying their dog might be stolen, I must have missed the spate of dog thefts from campsites. Hmm

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You must have. Dogs get stolen - and usually for quite cruel purposes.

LadyGrinningSoul8517 · 13/07/2024 09:55

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You'll get a lot of hate from the dog obsessives (I guess because the truth hurts?) but I agree totally.

Willmafrockfit · 13/07/2024 09:55

my dog comes into to the toilets with me, not the cubicle, but tied up to the handle.
i am only quick

Janiie · 13/07/2024 09:55

Beekeepingmum · 13/07/2024 09:52

Yeap this is ridiculous. Your dog is not your child, your dog will be fine with its lead tided up outside, your dog is not special. It is just a pet like any other pet.

People steal dogs surely you must've heard about such things?

Again, I would not take my dog to a shop or a cafe but campsite toilets? I don't get the outrage, what is the problem??

Moonshiners · 13/07/2024 09:54

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What the fuck? Inadequate people? My lovely son is ND and has been bullied for years as a result he hugely struggles with trusting people and has few friends. As a young adult his dog is his world and his best friend. Also my good friend who has had two still births and no living children treats her two dogs as her children and why the hell not. People like you make me feel a bit ill.

Calliopespa · 13/07/2024 09:54

fuzzybritches · 13/07/2024 09:47

Not sure what the issue is really. A toilet by default is not a particularly hygienic place. What is a dog going to do? I mean I wouldnt appreciate an XL bully clawing at the door while I'm having a wee but I couldn't get wound up over a small one.

What about a small pervy one?! 🤣

TimetoPour · 13/07/2024 09:53

I wouldn’t want my children having to pass a load of unpredictable, unattended dogs I don’t know that have been chained to a fence.
Taking the dog in seems the less of the two evils.

CormorantStrikesBack · 13/07/2024 09:53

I go to caravan club sites and no dogs allowed in the shower block. So I started off tying her up outside, then one time she managed to fall off the wheelchair ramp ledge while tied to the railing and would have been strangled if not for a passerby. So I stopped that.

youre not allowed to leave them unattended in the caravan. So now I put her in the car boot (estate) and leave the car doors open. If she barks she barks.

it is a stupid rule but I am a law abiding person so stick to it. I wouldn’t be bothered if I saw someone with a dog in there.

Beekeepingmum · 13/07/2024 09:52

Yeap this is ridiculous. Your dog is not your child, your dog will be fine with its lead tided up outside, your dog is not special. It is just a pet like any other pet.

PhilosophicalCheeseSandwich · 13/07/2024 09:51

Surely if you have a dog that can't be left outside/in the tent/in a cage, then you have to go somewhere that doesn't stop you from taking the dog in the toilet. I'm not a camper or a dog owner, but there must be some options that allow the dog to enjoy toilet time with you without the risk of upsetting others.

A little kid sitting on the toilet could be quite shaken by an animal appearing from the neighbouring cubicle. I definitely would've been, I was scared of dogs when I was young.

TimetoPour · 13/07/2024 09:50

Julyshouldbesunny · 13/07/2024 08:56

It really wasn't trying to see ya minge....

😂

Marblessolveeverything · 13/07/2024 09:49

The issue is leaving them unsupervised, which I would argue is less desirable.

Given it's a camp site I assume children are free range so I would see this as a more responsible option.

Ideally no I wouldn't want dogs there but in this particular case I would agree with the owner.

LadyGrinningSoul8517 · 13/07/2024 09:48

Topseyt123 · 13/07/2024 08:50

I was the same when I had dogs. I would take them into public toilets with me.

Believe it or not, dog theft is rife. No way would I ever have left them just tied up outside if I didn't have family or a friend with me to mind them for a few minutes. I can imagine this being a problem on campsites too.

I couldn't give a shit what anyone else thought/thinks of me for that.

An entitled dog owner, who'd have thought it?

fuzzybritches · 13/07/2024 09:47

Not sure what the issue is really. A toilet by default is not a particularly hygienic place. What is a dog going to do? I mean I wouldnt appreciate an XL bully clawing at the door while I'm having a wee but I couldn't get wound up over a small one.