To think that dogs shouldn't be in toilets?

I'm single. I have a dog. No matter how much I think holidays through I'm going to need the loo and I won't know where the toilets are, how far they are away from the car, whether they are dog friendly etc until I get there.

I mean, neither do I in terms of hygiene etc.

But I do think there's a difference between dogs having to come with you in a genuine emergency situation and planning a holiday knowing you'll need to take your dog with you and not thinking it through before you go.

Because there is no actual reason why a dog can’t come in with you and it isn’t safe to tie them up outside where you can’t even see them.

I respect and understand dogs not being allowed in certain shops or restaurants, but in a camp site toilet? No I don’t see the issue.

Then common sense would say that you make sure that the campsite you book is somewhere that allows that, surely?

We're not talking about an emergency, this is a holiday campsite.

They're not allowed everywhere and never will be but a solo person being able to go to the toilet is a pretty basic requirement

I really don't think most people taking a dog into the loo with them on a campsite or at a services etc are doing so because they think they're 'entitled' to do as they please.

They're doing it because there is no other safe option - safe for their dogs (who they do have a legal and moral responsibility to) and safe for everyone else.

Several other safe options have been suggested, to be met with bizarre responses involving freak car accidents, soaring temperatures which surely isn’t a problem at present and the campsite owner has obviously just put the sign up to save on cleaning ?
It basically boils down to the fact that a certain element of dog owners think the rules don’t apply to them and their little precious, so fuck everyone else I’ll do what’s convenient to me. The very embodiment of ‘entitlement’.

There's a different between "dog friendly" and "dogs are allowed absolutely everywhere no matter what".

If I was in the situation where I was on a dog friendly camp site alone with my dog and needed to use the toilet then yes I would ignore the sign and take them in with me because it’s not safe to tie them up outside where you can’t even see them.

That doesn’t make me an entitled dog owner who likes to break rules…it’s keeping your dog safe.

Do you just blindly follow rules because a sign says so even when it doesn’t make logical or practical sense?

Then they probably wouldn't go to a dog friendly campsite.

I know MN seems to think otherwise, but yes, most people are of the belief that humans come before animals.

I love animals - I work with them - I own four of them - but I don't expect everyone to love them or to want them in "human only" spaces.

Impossible! No one has friends, family and dogs!

I have children. I have friends. I have family. I have hobbies. I have two dogs. Neither are substitutes for anything. I love animals. All animals. They bring a lot to our lives. Don't judge me, making incorrect assumptions. Thank you.

We’ve got to imagine every other person is either phobic or allergic but you won’t consider the person with the dog might be doing their very best with the options available to them.

Dog ownership doesn’t mean someone is treating the animal with kindness either.

People that baby dogs and in turn create separation anxiety, are shit owners too.

The last couple of paragraphs are about the size of it.

I agree that hygiene wise it's not an issue, but it's the principle that there are a lot of dog owners out there who seem to think the rules don't apply to them or their dogs for some reason.

Very rarely there may be an emergency that means you have absolutely no choice, but let's be honest, the vast majority will be doing it because it's convenient or easier than any of the alternatives.

@WiddlinDiddlin no, not at all - but I very much doubt that someone taking their dog with them while they shower on holiday is having any kind of crisis or emergency - do you, really?

And yes, I've been stuck needing a wee with my dog several times - and that's often meant I've had to do a wild wee at the side of the road or behind a tree.

I'm really not going to be able to train this dog to bite a would be abductor

And unfortunately some cunt would steal her to be ripped apart

In the circumstances described by the op and the absence of no one to watch the dog for the whole 5/ 10 mins it takes me to go to the toilet, yes I would lock them in my car.

It's a toilet, the alternative is to piss yourself. They're not asking to take their dog to a spa or into a surgery room.

Do you live some sort of perfect life where nothing EVER goes awry, everything trundles along according to the plan?

I'd love to know how.

A friend of mine ended up camping recently with no crates - someone rear ended her car in the carpark, trashing the dogs travel crates she'd planned to put in the tent. Her DP went off to get the car fixed, which in the end meant driving home, getting the van and coming back the following day whilst she camped alone.

What was she supposed to do? Soil herself?

I really don't think most people taking a dog into the loo with them on a campsite or at a services etc are doing so because they think they're 'entitled' to do as they please.

They're doing it because there is no other safe option - safe for their dogs (who they do have a legal and moral responsibility to) and safe for everyone else.

In fairness, this is a campsite loo. Camping is generally the sort of place one might take a dog.

It’s not a hospital operating theatre or a fine dining establishment.

I don’t know why the campsite doesn’t have a separate dog owners loo.

The amount of people on this thread who don't seem to understand how much f a problem dog theft is.

I totally understand it's a problem.

But it doesn't mean you can just take your dog wherever you like and sod everyone else.

The amount of people on this thread who don't seem to understand how much f a problem dog theft is.

Best case scenario it's just stolen to be bred from. Worst case it is ripped to pieces in a dog fight for thugs entertainment and dies in agony, surrounded by a bunch of scumbags who are enjoying watching it bleed to death.

TBH this thread is a prime reminder to me of why I prefer dogs to people. Dogs aren't twats.

This is a new one 😄 dogs in toilets.