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To think that dogs shouldn't be in toilets?

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LittlePearDrop · 13/07/2024 08:28

I'm currently camping.

There's signs on the toilet / shower block door clearly indicating "No Dogs". Not small signs. Very obvious.

Went for a shower first thing this morning and a woman brought a dog into the toilet next to me. It poked its head under the gap and had a sniff. I just ignored it.

Took my daughter an hour later and whilst I'm waiting for her, another woman brings another dog in. This time, thinking maybe she has missed the sign, I said, very politely and calmly "Oh it's no dogs in here".

She immediately became defensive, saying there's no one else to look after him (there's a fence outside she could have tied him to) and that he would "cry" if left outside. Errm, so what? Dogs whine. It's not the end of the world.

AIBU to think that if the signs say "no dogs" then it means "no dogs" and not, "Well ok your dog can come in because it might whine if left alone for a minute"?

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Calliopespa · 13/07/2024 16:59

Newsenmum · 13/07/2024 16:52

Really though? I adore my cats but no way would I expect everyone else to have to put up with them and treat them better than children!

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But do you get so vitriolic?

I actually don’t love cats. I struggle with the dander ( makes me sneeze); but I’d never think of say someone was “ inadequate” for loving them .

sanityisamyth · 13/07/2024 16:58

Tophelleborine · 13/07/2024 08:37

People have become utterly ridiculous about dogs. Just tie the fucker up outside and let it whine for a few minutes.

Absolutely this.

parkrun500club · 13/07/2024 16:57

Not keen on them being taken into loos either. People don't generally go camping on their own so can they not leave the dog with someone else?

Might be different if you are out and about on your own with the dog and really need a wee!

BlueGrackle · 13/07/2024 16:56

Calliopespa · 13/07/2024 16:51

Really worrying.

The high security comment was so off - and you’ve got to wonder where that came from.

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Why exactly are you on a thread defending the right for people to be shit inconsiderate dog owners, when you’re saying you don’t have one ?

Kriscross · 13/07/2024 16:55

Tophelleborine · 13/07/2024 08:37

People have become utterly ridiculous about dogs. Just tie the fucker up outside and let it whine for a few minutes.

This.

Some treat dogs like babies or children. I don't want them sniffing under the door

Newsenmum · 13/07/2024 16:52

Tutorpuzzle · 13/07/2024 16:47

I couldn’t agree more. I’m sincerely hoping that the actual hatred shown to dog owners by a few posters on this thread does not reflect their lives in general and that they are ok.

It’s a little worrying tbh.

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Really though? I adore my cats but no way would I expect everyone else to have to put up with them and treat them better than children!

Calliopespa · 13/07/2024 16:51

Tutorpuzzle · 13/07/2024 16:47

I couldn’t agree more. I’m sincerely hoping that the actual hatred shown to dog owners by a few posters on this thread does not reflect their lives in general and that they are ok.

It’s a little worrying tbh.

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Really worrying.

The high security comment was so off - and you’ve got to wonder where that came from.

Newsenmum · 13/07/2024 16:50

This whole thing pisses me off. Little boys aren’t allowed in the toilet with their mums, but dogs can go into the toilet with an owner even when it says no dogs allowed 🙄

vodkaredbullgirl · 13/07/2024 16:48

My dogs are dogs, wouldn't take them on holiday too much stress for me and my dogs.

Tutorpuzzle · 13/07/2024 16:47

PixieLaLar · 13/07/2024 15:59

This thread has some wonderful examples of why I prefer dogs to most people.

I couldn’t agree more. I’m sincerely hoping that the actual hatred shown to dog owners by a few posters on this thread does not reflect their lives in general and that they are ok.

It’s a little worrying tbh.

Greenlittecat · 13/07/2024 16:45

LilBowWow · 13/07/2024 16:23

We’re not allowed to compare children to dogs. First rule of dog hating club.

Yeah they aren't your kids. They're animals.

Good try though!

I actually like dogs. I think they're cute and a pub is made better by having one. I just don't like owners who think they don't need to obey "no dogs" for a variety of silly reasons.

Calliopespa · 13/07/2024 16:42

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Another aggressive dog hater … 🙄

BlueGrackle · 13/07/2024 16:33

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LilBowWow · 13/07/2024 16:23

We’re not allowed to compare children to dogs. First rule of dog hating club.

MixedCouple2 · 13/07/2024 16:22

This is why I hate going anywhere nice these days! Dogs are replacing humans!

YANBU - tie to the fence or leave it home or don't own a dog if you cant follow simple rules.
Can you imagine a single parent taking their child to a night club because they can't find childcare. What do parents do? They stay home or find childcare.

I dont hate dogs. My parents had working dogs. Kept on the farm on private land. I hate the incessant need to take dogs everywhere!! Trains, cafes, restaurants, hotels!!! It has put me off holidaying in the UK as our last couple holidays have been awful and completely ruined due to dog owners and their pets.

Calliopespa · 13/07/2024 16:20

BlueGrackle · 13/07/2024 16:19

I don’t hate dogs. If you’re dogs is barking at everyone and anything then perhaps you should consider training it.

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I haven’t even got one 😂

BlueGrackle · 13/07/2024 16:19

Calliopespa · 13/07/2024 16:10

Some of the comments on here are starting to make me think the haters are spurred on by the fact that dogs probably get that spidey sense and bark at them …

I don’t hate dogs. If you’re dogs is barking at everyone and anything then perhaps you should consider training it.

Lampshadeblue · 13/07/2024 16:18

I’d much rather people take the dogs in on a lead under control than left tied up. As others have said, leaving a dog unattended would be very irresponsible. So many things to go wrong with that, very few things to go wrong with taking a dog on a lead into a cubicle! Whenever I’ve been camping it’s young children responsible for making most mess.

CyprusCypress · 13/07/2024 16:16

Calliopespa · 13/07/2024 16:10

Some of the comments on here are starting to make me think the haters are spurred on by the fact that dogs probably get that spidey sense and bark at them …

I am not scared of dogs or remotely bothered by barking. Bark away, I don’t care. I don’t find dogs clean and I think they have no place in restaurants or shops. And they should certainly not nuzzle or paw or jump up at strangers. This is apparently incomprehensible to many dog-lovers.

I never let my young kids approach others or disturb them. Or thought they should be allowed in adult areas. Consideration, see?

BlueGrackle · 13/07/2024 16:16

InTheWindow · 13/07/2024 15:21

It always amazes me on mumsnet that users cannot see outside their own experiences. Not everyone has a partner, family or friends to support them. I have been a single mum since my daughter was 2.

On the occasion I used service station loos in the middle of a 360mile journey to see my mum she was about 4, not old enough to be left alone herself, certainly not in charge of a dog. Locking a dog in a car when the temperature outside is over 30c is a death sentence. And I had chosen to travel in the evening when it should have been cooler. I had to take the dog because my ex let me down about looking after him last minute.

When I camp it is me and my daughter which is why I don’t take the dog. Yesterday I took him into an otherwise empty public toilet because I wanted to go for a long walk with my daughter and dog and all the places I could perhaps have gone for a wild wee were chest high in nettles. I probably shouldn’t have taken the dog at all as, shock horror, dog free people had to pass us on the narrow path! Obviously I am a terrible human being to have just brought dog, and daughter, to heel and waited by the edge of the path.

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None of which is relevant to the ops post.
I’m perfectly capable of understanding that peoples situations are different, in the same way that as a dog owner I understand that not everyone wants my dog in their personal space.
If you have extenuating circumstances that mean you can’t follow an instruction laid out by the camp owner, then you go and speak to them and let them offer you a solution, you don’t just continuously ignore it.

Misthios · 13/07/2024 16:13

BlueGrackle · 13/07/2024 14:13

I really don't think most people taking a dog into the loo with them on a campsite or at a services etc are doing so because they think they're 'entitled' to do as they please.

They're doing it because there is no other safe option - safe for their dogs (who they do have a legal and moral responsibility to) and safe for everyone else.

Several other safe options have been suggested, to be met with bizarre responses involving freak car accidents, soaring temperatures which surely isn’t a problem at present and the campsite owner has obviously just put the sign up to save on cleaning ?
It basically boils down to the fact that a certain element of dog owners think the rules don’t apply to them and their little precious, so fuck everyone else I’ll do what’s convenient to me. The very embodiment of ‘entitlement’.

Exactly, dog owners can't face the fact that some of their cohort are ridiculously entitled and don't give a shit about people who don't want their animals absolutely everywhere. So they come up with weird and wonderful fantasy scenarios where the dog owner absolutely did plan to keep their fur baby away from everyone else, but then the aliens came and abducted the lead, and the kennels spontaneously combusted, and the person who was supposed to look after the dog fell into a disused well, so they literally had no option but to bring their fur baby to the loo/theatre/children's play area.

Calliopespa · 13/07/2024 16:10

Some of the comments on here are starting to make me think the haters are spurred on by the fact that dogs probably get that spidey sense and bark at them …

Calliopespa · 13/07/2024 16:07

CyprusCypress · 13/07/2024 16:00

Do you struggle with social skills? Eg being polite, considerate, sensitive to others’ needs? Is being around dogs thus easier for you maybe?

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😳How ironic that this is a post questioning politeness and sensitivity…

MarpleCake · 13/07/2024 16:05

I suppose people will ignore the sign as bringing a dog into the toilets isn’t actually causing any harm. Leaving them unattended may cause some problems.

Greenlittecat · 13/07/2024 16:03

PixieLaLar · 13/07/2024 15:59

This thread has some wonderful examples of why I prefer dogs to most people.

I think that's fairly obvious given your responses.