To think that dogs shouldn't be in toilets?

I hope I dont! And no I dont think anyone is inadequate for loving a cat. I just hate the double standard.

I wonder what sort of campsites and loos people are using where there are SO many dogs visiting it is such a huge issue?

I think in 20 years of owning dogs together, DP and I have only had to take a dog into a toilet a couple of times.

But out there in MN land, entitled dog owners are crowding into loos up and down the country, terrifying the phobic and triggering anaphylactic shock in the allergic...

As for the 'dogs aren't special'... agree to disagree there, my dog is significantly more special to me, than you are.

But that is by the by. I have a legal responsibility to my dog - to prevent suffering, to prevent him causing harm or reasonably causing someone fear of injury.

I will absolutely put that legal responsibility over and above the hypothetical needs of a stranger in a toilet. Every time.

I don’t care where people take their dogs as long as they’re well behaved. So many dogs are stolen now that I wouldn’t want to tie one up outside for the length of time it would take me to shower.

As for dogs in eating places - a lot of them smell better than some of the customers.

I just can’t imagine owning an animal that you think you are entitled to take into the shower or loo.

I get that animals in your own home might wander into the bathroom or the dunny, but to actually choose to take one in? To a public WC or shower block? Bit weird TBH. I guess that’s just what dog lovers are like though.

What a ridiculous, intolerant and depressing attitude. Imagine thinking that something you dislike should be kept out of all public spaces - and it's the dog owners who are entitled?!?

I don't especially enjoy sharing the road with cyclists or my workplace with Tory voters but I accept that they have a right to be there.

@BlueGrackle @Greenlittecat
I stand corrected! I genuinely hadn’t seen any (I’m a bit of a weekends only person on MN) but I will be looking out for them now as I have a lot to say on the subject 😊

They deleted one post.
You keep repeatedly referring to dog haters as a collective on here. Apart from one poster, no one else has objected to dogs they have objected to bad owners ignoring signs, why does that make people dog haters ?

My first post in respect of which you responded to me directly I don’t believe was made with you in mind.

As for your later posts… well I can’t really remember and it’s hard to go back now that MN has deleted several of them for breaching guidelines for appropriate comment. 🤷🏻‍♀️

There are plenty of threads about people complaining about cats in their gardens.

If a sign said "no cats allowed" and an owner knowing brought their cat in on a lead, people would be annoyed about that too.

I wouldn't leave mine tied up outside though. Not because anyone would steal him (I'd like to see them try) but in case anyone tried to pet him and he didn't like it. He is not entirely trustworthy .

I took my dog into a public toilet with me once. Nothing bad happened.

It is a real issue when you are out on your own with the dog and need a wee. Happened to me today. I decided to just hold on. My other go to solution is to lock him in the car which I think is OK as long as it's only a few minutes. I would never take him in the toilets with me. It's never occurred to me to do that. He's a big dog and would alarm people, he's probably be scared of the driers plus there would not be room in the cubicle.

No. There’s only about 50 million threads a week about cat shit, sure you could fine at least one if you tried.

@CyprusCypress

I do seem to have touched a nerve though, don’t I? Take care.

Aside from one early poster, pretty much every so called ‘dog hater’ on this thread has expressed no objection to dogs, they have responded to posters that feel entitled to ignore signs telling them not let their dogs onto camp site toilets and given various fanciful reasons to justify their entitlement.

Can you explain how my objection to people ignoring a sign makes me a dog hater, baring in mind that I have a dog and have owned dogs since childhood ?

Ah, now, this is interesting. If it was a cat peeping under the loo door would the OP have been so bothered? Because, in my experience, cats go wherever the fuck they like. I don’t let my dog poo in other people’s gardens…but nobody’s having a go at cat owners, are they?!😉

If people were less ridiculous and entitled about dogs, there would not be so many threads.

Even five years ago, people didn’t behave so selfishly and entitled like this with their dogs. And there were far fewer threads. See the link?

Pre-pandemic, people with and without dogs got on ok. Now many people with dogs have started to be selfish and entitled. I guess it’s gone this way with many people on various issues who think their right to do what they want, trumps others’ needs.

Or alternatively don’t start yet another thread about dogs.

This kind of fake concern is one of the most cringeworthy things I read on forums online.

The strong views of dog-lovers and ‘dog-haters’ on this one specific issue, do not reflect the entirety of their lives or their mental health. You are not ‘sincerely hoping they are ok’ so enough of the disingenuous prattle!

No I don’t. But not every dog owner ignores signs.

I go solo camping, walking, voting with my dog and he sleeps with me when he wants to. I have never taken him in toilet/shower blocks. I have never failed to find an appropriate spot to park and chain him to. He can let out the odd whine when he's being a bit soft, but mostly he's a good boy and sits and waits nicely, or laps up others attention. Can't say I've ever seen anyone do it either, you must of just got unlucky at the time.

I’d take a little boy in . It’s not safe if you are on your own with them . You have to be sensible about these things. Ensuring their safety is not entitled.

You have family members that ignore signs and do what they want?

Because family members do and I think the haters have an overly aggressive stance.

Perhaps because they give decent dog owners that can follow basic instructions a bad name ?