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To think that dogs shouldn't be in toilets?

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LittlePearDrop · 13/07/2024 08:28

I'm currently camping.

There's signs on the toilet / shower block door clearly indicating "No Dogs". Not small signs. Very obvious.

Went for a shower first thing this morning and a woman brought a dog into the toilet next to me. It poked its head under the gap and had a sniff. I just ignored it.

Took my daughter an hour later and whilst I'm waiting for her, another woman brings another dog in. This time, thinking maybe she has missed the sign, I said, very politely and calmly "Oh it's no dogs in here".

She immediately became defensive, saying there's no one else to look after him (there's a fence outside she could have tied him to) and that he would "cry" if left outside. Errm, so what? Dogs whine. It's not the end of the world.

AIBU to think that if the signs say "no dogs" then it means "no dogs" and not, "Well ok your dog can come in because it might whine if left alone for a minute"?

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PixieLaLar · 14/07/2024 17:09

Greenlittecat · 14/07/2024 16:27

But the "dog klaxon" is about dog owners not following the "no dogs allowed sign", and there are many, many posters who are attempting to justify ignoring the "no dog rule".

I'm genuinely asking, why do you (or dog owners) think it'd ok to ignore it?

Many posters have already explained it’s because the need to keep their dog safe out weighs a sign that doesn’t actually have a logical reason behind it.

If you were on your own and the sign for a public toilet said “no children” would you leave your small child outside alone just to obey the sign?

Iheartmysmart · 14/07/2024 16:59

Im away camping now for the first time this year. Just gone for a wee and there’s a chicken mooching around the shower block and birds flying in and out through a gap in the corner of the roof. But sadly no dogs.

Cuppapuppa · 14/07/2024 16:53

These dog threads are really not a good PR move for MNs! Brings out the crazies 😆😆😆

Valeriesimpleton · 14/07/2024 16:45

I don't live in the UK and to be honest I find the endless designer breeds being touted around in public places irritating.when I visit. Get a dog, take it out for walks and let it get muddy and piss in the forest, play with other dogs etc. Also teach it to be alone or have two. But if someone needs to have their dog I don't mind and I find the endless spite and hatred for dog lovers on MN distasteful. I think it makes people who live depressing humdrum lives running round after their children feel better about their sad lives by playing the Trump card, dog owners act like they have a baby but it's not. Well thank god for that, kids are tediously boring 99% of the time. Dogs are much better. The spite on here makes me want to move back to the UK and get a big slobbery dog who is dressed in a baby gro and accompanies me to any middle class venue where these horrid harridans hang out and I will sit him in a high chair and let him have unlimited screen time while eating more than a lettuce leaf and knocking back a fruitshoot. He will also have his ears pierced at Claires. Pah.

BlueGrackle · 14/07/2024 16:41

Why do a lot of posters on here seem to think that a ‘no dogs sign’ is an instruction to leave their dog tied to a fence ?
It’s a worry what they do when faced with a sign saying no children.

PinkSparklyPussyCat · 14/07/2024 16:40

Greenlittecat · 14/07/2024 16:27

But the "dog klaxon" is about dog owners not following the "no dogs allowed sign", and there are many, many posters who are attempting to justify ignoring the "no dog rule".

I'm genuinely asking, why do you (or dog owners) think it'd ok to ignore it?

I’m not saying it’s ok to ignore it but I can see why people would when there’s so much hatred towards dogs, even the well behaved one. I’m saying the amount of hate from the dog haters is ridiculous. Someone even suggested it doesn’t matter if a dog is stolen as that’s what insurance is for. I’m not sure whether they are goady or just thick!

Maybe part of the fault lies with the campsites, they should make it clear that even though the site is dog friendly, dogs can’t go everywhere.

BTW I don’t have a dog and I would rather stick pins in my eyes than go camping so am not guilty of taking a dog where I shouldn’t!

Greenlittecat · 14/07/2024 16:27

PinkSparklyPussyCat · 14/07/2024 16:20

I’m not talking about following the rules as you well know. I’m talking about the dog haters who don’t care if something happens to them, the idiots who think dog owners are ‘inadequate’ (hello pot, meet kettle) and the general haters who converge on a thread whenever they hear the dog klaxon.

But the "dog klaxon" is about dog owners not following the "no dogs allowed sign", and there are many, many posters who are attempting to justify ignoring the "no dog rule".

I'm genuinely asking, why do you (or dog owners) think it'd ok to ignore it?

Tricho · 14/07/2024 16:25

WiddlinDiddlin · 14/07/2024 15:46

Of course.

In the same way that a life insurance policy pay out is a perfectly acceptable replacement for a loved one who has died.

Took the words out of my mouth

Valeriesimpleton · 14/07/2024 16:23

PinkSparklyPussyCat · 14/07/2024 16:20

I’m not talking about following the rules as you well know. I’m talking about the dog haters who don’t care if something happens to them, the idiots who think dog owners are ‘inadequate’ (hello pot, meet kettle) and the general haters who converge on a thread whenever they hear the dog klaxon.

Bloody well said! There are some truly hateful people around.

FinalCeleryScheme · 14/07/2024 16:22

Just gonna leave this here…

To think that dogs shouldn't be in toilets?
PinkSparklyPussyCat · 14/07/2024 16:22

I’m so sorry about your dog @Justforthisthread24, I hope he or she is found safe and well 💐

PinkSparklyPussyCat · 14/07/2024 16:20

Werweisswohin · 14/07/2024 15:34

Why does expecting dog owners to follow rules make someone a frother exactly?

I’m not talking about following the rules as you well know. I’m talking about the dog haters who don’t care if something happens to them, the idiots who think dog owners are ‘inadequate’ (hello pot, meet kettle) and the general haters who converge on a thread whenever they hear the dog klaxon.

kitsuneghost · 14/07/2024 16:19

If you have just washed then you really don't want a dog near you as soon as you get out.
It's like washing your hair and a seagull pooping on it 2 min later.

Justforthisthread24 · 14/07/2024 16:16

@FinalCeleryScheme having had my dog stolen, I can sure you, for those of us that love our dogs, it is NOTHING like lost luggage or damage to a car. Do you worry about what is happening to your luggage when it’s gone? Who is feeding it or if it’s being harmed? Or how your car feels whilst it’s being repaired? Of course not. Despite the dog haters on this thread, a dog is sentient being. It’s not a car or luggage. Obviously.

WiddlinDiddlin · 14/07/2024 16:12

Yes, seriously. To dog owners our dogs ARE family members. The insurance payout for my dog who dropped dead does not bring her back! Bonkers, absolutely fucking bonkers to suggest it would.

Hence my rather flippant response really.

I actually have zero skin in this game as I don't go camping, and when I did go out and about, it was with an assistance dog. Who can go anywhere at all (well, not an operating theatre and a tiny handful of other sterile environments)... no matter how allergic or phobic someone else might be.

FinalCeleryScheme · 14/07/2024 16:04

WiddlinDiddlin · 14/07/2024 15:46

Of course.

In the same way that a life insurance policy pay out is a perfectly acceptable replacement for a loved one who has died.

Seriously? You’re comparing a claim for the purchase price of a new dog with life cover to allow surviving spouses and other dependents to be financially more secure after the death of a family member?

Don’t you think a better comparison would be with insurance for a replacement phone, or lost luggage or damage to a car?

Bonkers. Absolutely bonkers.

adorablecat · 14/07/2024 16:02

WiddlinDiddlin · 14/07/2024 15:45

How do you do that when camping or generally on holiday with the dog? Camp for a few hours at a time then pop home for the dog?

Maybe we should invent a dog that, with a remote control, can be switched off, disappeared out of existance in inconvenient moments, and then switch back on again when thats ok.

Or a time machine so we can just rewind time until whatever series of events that caused us to need to take a dog where a dog shouldn't be, hasn't yet happened. That sounds super practical, I await the invention of either with bated breath!

Having seen the vile attitudes to dogs on this thread there is absolutely no fucking way I'd leave mine unsupervised anywhere the general public could get to them. They're clearly not safe unless by my side or inside my house.

The off-switch is a brilliant idea, is anybody working on it? Maybe they can also invent a variant for kids.

Ukhotelsareshit · 14/07/2024 16:01

@Calliopespa as it happens, dogs are allowed in Claridges. Including in the toilets🥰
Whilst I agree that dog owners should check exactly how “dog friendly” an establishment is before visiting (because in my experience, it’s often not very friendly at all!) if you are massively phobic or allergic you can also book an establishment which is dog free. It works both ways.

parkrun500club · 14/07/2024 15:59

ThursdayTomorrow · 14/07/2024 15:50

We are currently in a climate emergency and dogs are very bad for the environment. With the notable exception of assistance and working dogs, no one should be getting a dog in the first place - they are a luxury the planet cannot afford.

There's a massive Venn diagram cross-over between dog owners and SUV drivers so I think you can safely say they don't give a monkeys about the climate crisis.

Greenlittecat · 14/07/2024 15:55

WiddlinDiddlin · 14/07/2024 15:45

How do you do that when camping or generally on holiday with the dog? Camp for a few hours at a time then pop home for the dog?

Maybe we should invent a dog that, with a remote control, can be switched off, disappeared out of existance in inconvenient moments, and then switch back on again when thats ok.

Or a time machine so we can just rewind time until whatever series of events that caused us to need to take a dog where a dog shouldn't be, hasn't yet happened. That sounds super practical, I await the invention of either with bated breath!

Having seen the vile attitudes to dogs on this thread there is absolutely no fucking way I'd leave mine unsupervised anywhere the general public could get to them. They're clearly not safe unless by my side or inside my house.

Oooh this has obviously struck a nerve.

Just don't bring your dog where it says "no dogs". No need for any new inventions 🙄

ThursdayTomorrow · 14/07/2024 15:50

We are currently in a climate emergency and dogs are very bad for the environment. With the notable exception of assistance and working dogs, no one should be getting a dog in the first place - they are a luxury the planet cannot afford.

HighHeelsOnCobblestones · 14/07/2024 15:49

henlake7 · 14/07/2024 13:42

Allowed or not if I didnt have anywhere safe to leave my dog Id take it into the toilet with me. Thing is I actually care about my dog....I dont care about some random stranger I will never see again, so dog wins every time.

I mean if a dog in the stall next to you is so offensive I can always just pee al fresco with him.....maybe behind your tent!?😆

Sure, pee behind my tent. Better than a dog in the toilet next to DS2. Or I’ll send him to pee behind yours because he sure as hell wouldn’t be able to use the toilet if there’s dog in there. Not without risking a serious asthma attack. I’d rather see you having a pee behind my tent than my child blue and in the back of an ambulance.

He couldn’t go on a recent school trip because of this. They were supposed to visit a dog free part of an otherwise dog friendly place but no guarantee dog owners wouldn’t just ignore the signs so too risky. Now I see just how many dog owners think “no dogs” signs don’t apply to them, I think we made the right decision albeit a sad and frustrating one to make.

WiddlinDiddlin · 14/07/2024 15:46

MyBirthdayMonth · 14/07/2024 15:36

That's what insurance is for surely?

Of course.

In the same way that a life insurance policy pay out is a perfectly acceptable replacement for a loved one who has died.

WiddlinDiddlin · 14/07/2024 15:45

adorablecat · 14/07/2024 15:32

There is a third option: pick a dog which can be left alone at home for a few hours.

How do you do that when camping or generally on holiday with the dog? Camp for a few hours at a time then pop home for the dog?

Maybe we should invent a dog that, with a remote control, can be switched off, disappeared out of existance in inconvenient moments, and then switch back on again when thats ok.

Or a time machine so we can just rewind time until whatever series of events that caused us to need to take a dog where a dog shouldn't be, hasn't yet happened. That sounds super practical, I await the invention of either with bated breath!

Having seen the vile attitudes to dogs on this thread there is absolutely no fucking way I'd leave mine unsupervised anywhere the general public could get to them. They're clearly not safe unless by my side or inside my house.

MyBirthdayMonth · 14/07/2024 15:36

Tricho · 14/07/2024 15:18

My dog was 1500 quid and is a dought after breed high in thefts. Am I fuck leaving him outside for your benefit.

That's what insurance is for surely?