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Teacher married to non teacher

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allsummereverysummer · 13/07/2024 07:42

It’s on my mind at the moment that I’m responsible for childcare every holiday until they are of an age they don’t really need it …

I know that’s obvious. I think it’s just I do the lions share of everything as it is. Feels like a long time to have them over the summer tbh.

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MrsW9 · 13/07/2024 11:18

I do understand where you're coming from. I think every way round is tricky, regardless of whether working parents are teachers or not. Non-teachers are often having to take annual leave at times different to one another so that children can be looked after in the holidays - that's also a situation where people are mostly either working or looking after children. I think there are just not many days to yourself if you work and have children.

Conversely, I am a teacher but have to pay for nursery through the holidays anyway, because there are no term-time only options where I live. This gives me the option of having the child in nursery when I am off work, which is nice in a way, but I'd rather have the thousands of pounds we would save if I could look after them.

Phineyj · 13/07/2024 11:17

If you took an extended holiday in what would have been term time I can see why there's an issue with leave.

However, if as a result your husband has no AL left for the whole of July and August then definitely try to plan that differently for 2025!

I don't know if primary is harder, but it's definitely fiddly-er.

Secondary is no breeze either here. I really couldn't leave SEN only child DC to her own devices for days at a time. But there's no point borrowing trouble so let's assume your two will get easier as they age.

Cuppapuppa · 13/07/2024 11:15

I genuinely don’t understand why your DH can’t look after a 3 yr old & a 1 yr old for a few hours by himself.

allsummereverysummer · 13/07/2024 11:14

Cuppapuppa · 13/07/2024 11:13

Then the few odd days so for instance we are going to see the Gruffalo in November, we have a wedding October half term, which is 2 days AL, and so on. Hopefully this explains matters. I really don’t think I should have had to go into this amount of detail tbh.

Well it’s confusing because I don’t know anyone with this set up. So during your holidays to Wales etc would you not get down time then?

With a three year old and a one year old, no.

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allsummereverysummer · 13/07/2024 11:13

why would you not all go swimming

Because one is in a baby swimming lesson and one is in a preschooler

just DH take them to the park

Because one can’t walk so it’s nicer for the other one to have some one to one time

This having to justify literally everything my family do is becoming a bit upsetting tbh.

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Cuppapuppa · 13/07/2024 11:13

Then the few odd days so for instance we are going to see the Gruffalo in November, we have a wedding October half term, which is 2 days AL, and so on. Hopefully this explains matters. I really don’t think I should have had to go into this amount of detail tbh.

Well it’s confusing because I don’t know anyone with this set up. So during your holidays to Wales etc would you not get down time then?

Cuppapuppa · 13/07/2024 11:12

He does. I literally say a few pages ago they both have activities that we tag team so he takes DS to rugby while DD naps or vice versa, later I’ll take DD swimming while he takes DS to the park or whatever. Like I say I can’t keep saying the same over and over.

But you’re aware there are hundreds of parents who work weekends & unsociable hours but still do activities. And presumably activities don’t take the whole day; why would you not all go swimming or just DH take them to the park so you have free time?

allsummereverysummer · 13/07/2024 11:11

@LostTheMarble i did not realise I was expected to explain every day in detail.

He takes 5 days just after Christmas as we ‘traditionally’ go to centre parcs then (my school tends to be slightly out of most school holidays then which means we break up literally the day before Christmas Eve but go back a week later so cheaper!)

Then also at Easter as we go to wales then.

Then a week in summer.

And he also does need to keep days free because it is difficult for me to take time off for an unwell child - not impossible but generally speaking his jobs a bit more flexible.

Then the few odd days so for instance we are going to see the Gruffalo in November, we have a wedding October half term, which is 2 days AL, and so on. Hopefully this explains matters. I really don’t think I should have had to go into this amount of detail tbh.

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IgnoranceNotOk · 13/07/2024 11:11

allsummereverysummer · 13/07/2024 08:42

This was a rather unpleasant reply. But I’ll answer it anyway.

I didn’t know when I had children what it would be like. I didn’t know how hard sleep deprivation was with babies - I naively thought that it would be waking up for a feed then back to bed, so like a slightly broken night but could sleep the next day when the baby slept. And in fairness dc2 was like that but I had dc1 to care for!

At the moment the struggle is different needs. I leave the room for two seconds and there’s shouting and wailing, someone’s taken someone’s toy, someone’s trying to pull someone over, someone’s turned the TV off. I sit down with the baby and she’s trying to climb over the back of the sofa and gets furious when I stop her breaking her neck, I put her down and she cries! Meanwhile dc1 is being semi neglected because dc2 is so full on and demanding at the moment.

Out of the house is a bit better but groups and things don’t tend to run over the holidays so I do find myself a bit stuck for things to do and it’s always very busy too.

We manage and we do a lot but I can’t really pretend I personally find my days with my children hugely enjoyable. But I think they are enjoyable for my children and that is what is important really.

Oh OP - I get it - you’re meant to love every minute and I wanted kids so much and we had IVF but it was still hard getting used to be permanently exhausted and not having a minute to yourself.

I’m also a part time teacher - I’ve always booked them into nursery for a few days in the holidays so that I could have a break or get things done. Could you change a day of preschool to a nursery day so you could do this?

Now that they’re both going to be at school in September I’ve booked one into nursery and the 6 year old will have to come and move to my new classroom and do the set up for that - it’ll be painful - the novelty wore off quickly last summer!

It gets so much easier though as they get older - apart from the arguing - I managed to stay in bed this morning whilst they played on screens and left me alone! So I feel like I’m winning and get a bit of headspace.
I do have the same feeling as you though - DH
will be working and works every Saturday so by the time he’s home I feel like I’ve done it all.

Once they’re out of nursery, you’ll be able to see how much money you save not having to pay for holiday clubs though as they’re extortionate - or maybe you will so that you can have a bit of a break. There’s no right or wrong answer and everyone’s job has its own perks and disadvantages so you’re entitled to feel how you feel.

Cuppapuppa · 13/07/2024 11:09

I am not sure quite how it gets harder - but er, thanks!

Primary school is generally harder as there is more to navigate; shorter days, different activities, play dates, school events, etc

LostTheMarble · 13/07/2024 11:08

allsummereverysummer · 13/07/2024 11:06

He does. I literally say a few pages ago they both have activities that we tag team so he takes DS to rugby while DD naps or vice versa, later I’ll take DD swimming while he takes DS to the park or whatever. Like I say I can’t keep saying the same over and over.

Why can’t he take annual leave - this year because we’ve used it. I was on maternity leave so for the first and only time we went on holiday in term time. Next year I am sure he will but will probably only be a week. Still leaves 5 weeks.

No it’s not clear - are you saying he gets one week AL a year? Or he only uses one week to do his bit for school holidays - what about the rest of his leave?

allsummereverysummer · 13/07/2024 11:08

I am not sure quite how it gets harder - but er, thanks!

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Cuppapuppa · 13/07/2024 11:07

And honestly it gets harder at primary school so you really need to trust DH with the dc. Or are you going to still do everything?

allsummereverysummer · 13/07/2024 11:06

Cuppapuppa · 13/07/2024 11:04

@allsummereverysummer why can’t he have annual leave? Why doesn’t he help on the weekends?

He does. I literally say a few pages ago they both have activities that we tag team so he takes DS to rugby while DD naps or vice versa, later I’ll take DD swimming while he takes DS to the park or whatever. Like I say I can’t keep saying the same over and over.

Why can’t he take annual leave - this year because we’ve used it. I was on maternity leave so for the first and only time we went on holiday in term time. Next year I am sure he will but will probably only be a week. Still leaves 5 weeks.

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LostTheMarble · 13/07/2024 11:06

Cuppapuppa · 13/07/2024 11:04

@allsummereverysummer why can’t he have annual leave? Why doesn’t he help on the weekends?

Yes, please answer the annual leave question @allsummereverysummer because it seems to be a huge crux in why you’re not getting any break what so ever.

CelesteCunningham · 13/07/2024 11:05

allsummereverysummer · 13/07/2024 11:03

I’ve answered re dh a few times @spriots . He’s at work and generally don’t really see him Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday. Mondays and Fridays he sometimes (not always) wfh. They are a bit easier as he can help in the morning and can share bath and bed. There kind of does come a point where you can’t keep repeating yourself tbh.

But what about the annual leave?

Cuppapuppa · 13/07/2024 11:04

There kind of does come a point where you can’t keep repeating yourself tbh.

Its really not clear why hence myself & other posters dont understand.

Cuppapuppa · 13/07/2024 11:04

@allsummereverysummer why can’t he have annual leave? Why doesn’t he help on the weekends?

Cuppapuppa · 13/07/2024 11:03

I am becoming reasonably certain the DH is either a workaholic and doesn't take leave or takes his leave to go on cycling holidays with his mates

I said it pages ago but it’s a DH issue 😆

allsummereverysummer · 13/07/2024 11:03

I’ve answered re dh a few times @spriots . He’s at work and generally don’t really see him Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday. Mondays and Fridays he sometimes (not always) wfh. They are a bit easier as he can help in the morning and can share bath and bed. There kind of does come a point where you can’t keep repeating yourself tbh.

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LostTheMarble · 13/07/2024 11:02

allsummereverysummer · 13/07/2024 11:01

I actually find teaching reasonably easy. I’m not as good with very little children. We’re at a tricky stage where one can’t walk and isn’t necessarily happy about it. It will change, of course. But I do sometimes, occasionally wake up on a Saturday morning and am a bit daunted at the full on days that lie ahead and it occurred to me I’ll have that … alone and for a loooong time. I don’t think I ‘feel strongly’ about it, just that it’s a bit knackering.

Person who hid the thread - I get NO time to myself in the week! 😂

There are several of us asking now - why is your husband so absent and why can’t he take them/annual leave to do his part?

Georgethecat1 · 13/07/2024 11:02

Parenting is hard and it comes easier to others than some people. I know mums that’s said they really didn’t enjoy the under 5s years and OP I’m guessing you might be the same. It will and does get easier.

I have a summer club that my child can attend before they start reception, they just need to be 4 years old. There is possible childcare options so hunt around, some preschools have started doing holiday clubs which could be an option.

For long holidays make a plan, look at free activities and paid activities. Make a weekly plan on what you can do each day (park, library, trips out).

Give yourself a few days off to clean / washing / run errands in the morning then self care in the afternoon for some holidays.

It’s ok to struggle and feel overwhelmed. I’m a
none teacher who wishes I had more time off with my kids so much I am considering moving into teaching once they are a bit older (I know it’s intense during the term). It’s not all bad but it’s ok to say you find it overwhelming.

Scottishgirl85 · 13/07/2024 11:02

I get you, OP. It's relentless. But try to focus on the joyous moments. When I'm in the throws of utter chaos with my 3 and want to cry, I stop myself and remember that I'm their life, they rely and look up to me and they're so damn cute and won't be like that forever. I know one day I'll look back and I'll want to give anything to have these years again (rose tinted glasses and all that!). Mine are 9, 6 and 1.5 now, and I've not had a work-free, child-free day for 9 years! Neither has my husband! Maybe the odd one for a wedding or hen do, but that's it. We're not teachers, but every single day of annual leave is spent with the kids.

Cuppapuppa · 13/07/2024 11:01

You work a three day week and are wondering how you'll cope looking after your own lovely children for six weeks?

I work a 3 day week & have a month off in the Summer. If I couldn’t leave dc with their dad & gps I would be tearing my hair out!

spriots · 13/07/2024 11:01

Mymanyellow · 13/07/2024 10:56

I’ve read the whole thread and didn’t see anywhere why dh can’t book a couple of weeks leave in the summer. Yes it will still be hard at times but at least there will be two of you.

I am becoming reasonably certain the DH is either a workaholic and doesn't take leave or takes his leave to go on cycling holidays with his mates