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He stayed out to help a lady get home safe… AIBU or is DH?

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SoulSissss · 12/07/2024 22:32

DH went out for “a couple of drinks” at 2.00pm. He text me at 5.30 and said that he’d be having another couple of drinks. He then messaged at 7.30 told me he would be home at 8.30 and also told me that his battery was at 1%. However, he then bumped into a lady he knows, who asked him to make sure she got home safe. She was drunk but not paralytic. It’s hard to access taxis in the place we live. He text me to tell me this at 9.15.

So our children stayed awake to get their goodnight kiss from daddy, but I had to tell them that unfortunately thing had changed and daddy wouldn’t be able to be home in time.

DH has just got home just after 10.00 and explained that the lady was upset about her marriage and wouldn’t stop talking to him about it. He said he felt he couldn’t leave her incase something happened to her. I totally understand that but explained that it’s not his job to babysit an adult. He could have explained that he would be leaving and could make sure she got home okay if she left now. I then said that DD was upset (suspected neurodivergent) that he wasn’t home. He said he tried for ages to get her to leave but it was difficult.

He then completely deflected and said, well if DD was so upset, why didn’t I phone him. I explained that I knew he was on 1% battery ages before hand and we had been waiting expecting him to come through the door any minute. He said “so you knew I planned to be home at 8.30 and when I still wasn’t home at 9.15 you weren’t even concerned for my safety???” I explained again, I didn’t think his phone would even possibly still be on at that time and that no, I wasn’t concerned for his safety! He began smirking and rolling his eyes.

I told him that I’m really upset at how he is speaking to me and I’d be happy if he just left the house. I think he is being completely out of order. But maybe it’s me?

I know I’ve given specific timings for messages. I’m not actually that anal about stuff, but I want to share an actuate timeline so that you get the full picture.

AIBU??

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Poettree · 13/07/2024 09:42

My main concern would be that he's going out for 'a few drinks' at 2pm. When he has kids to parent and a marriage and presumably other responsibilities ie a house, a job etc.

And then has so little awareness of these things that he gets caught up in some random drunk drama with someone else, while his kids are waiting for him to say goodnight to them.

It speaks to rather shit priorities, selfishness and generally being a bit of an immature drunken dick.

He needs to grow up.

Jezabelle85 · 13/07/2024 09:41

SoulSissss · 12/07/2024 22:32

DH went out for “a couple of drinks” at 2.00pm. He text me at 5.30 and said that he’d be having another couple of drinks. He then messaged at 7.30 told me he would be home at 8.30 and also told me that his battery was at 1%. However, he then bumped into a lady he knows, who asked him to make sure she got home safe. She was drunk but not paralytic. It’s hard to access taxis in the place we live. He text me to tell me this at 9.15.

So our children stayed awake to get their goodnight kiss from daddy, but I had to tell them that unfortunately thing had changed and daddy wouldn’t be able to be home in time.

DH has just got home just after 10.00 and explained that the lady was upset about her marriage and wouldn’t stop talking to him about it. He said he felt he couldn’t leave her incase something happened to her. I totally understand that but explained that it’s not his job to babysit an adult. He could have explained that he would be leaving and could make sure she got home okay if she left now. I then said that DD was upset (suspected neurodivergent) that he wasn’t home. He said he tried for ages to get her to leave but it was difficult.

He then completely deflected and said, well if DD was so upset, why didn’t I phone him. I explained that I knew he was on 1% battery ages before hand and we had been waiting expecting him to come through the door any minute. He said “so you knew I planned to be home at 8.30 and when I still wasn’t home at 9.15 you weren’t even concerned for my safety???” I explained again, I didn’t think his phone would even possibly still be on at that time and that no, I wasn’t concerned for his safety! He began smirking and rolling his eyes.

I told him that I’m really upset at how he is speaking to me and I’d be happy if he just left the house. I think he is being completely out of order. But maybe it’s me?

I know I’ve given specific timings for messages. I’m not actually that anal about stuff, but I want to share an actuate timeline so that you get the full picture.

AIBU??

I think a lot of the issue here is that men (not all) like to say ‘I am only going for a couple,’ and say they will be home for a certain time or we make the mistake of asking them what time they will be back.

I understand that even with the best of intentions, people go out, begin drinking, get to chatting and having a lovely time and then think, ‘Oh just another quick one…’
I am guilty of this myself.

Now when my partner goes out, even for a ‘couple’, I don’t hold him to it or ask when he will be back, I just assume he will end up staying for more and having a lovely time and let him get on with it. He doesn’t go out drinking very often.
He also has no issues with me being out whenever and for however long.

I am not sure how I would feel about the stuff with the female drinker. From the initial post, I can’t imagine it making me too annoyed unless I was relying on him being home at a certain time.
However, from the information you have added in additional posts, I may be pissed off that he thought her intentions were dubious but stayed and waited for her to be ready to leave to get her home.
I just try to be fair and think ‘How would he (my DP) feel if the roles were reversed?’
He is very laidback and chilled so it’s hard to know, but I would feel bad if I told him I would be home in an hour and my battery was on 1 percent and then later told him, ‘A man who I think fancies me, has had too much to drink and wants my help getting home but he isn’t ready to leave yet, so I’ll be home later than I specified.’
My advice is don’t try to have sensible conversations with drunk people.
Enjoy your family day and tell him at some point how you feel about what happened and hopefully his sober response makes you feel better.

Luio · 13/07/2024 09:40

If I was out doing something, I would find it infuriating if DH tried to use the kids bedtime as a way of getting me back by a certain time and then made me feel guilty if I didn’t make it. I would think he was being manipulative and controlling.

If you don’t want him to stay out for that long just be straightforward and say so. It is perfectly reasonable to ask him to come back, especially as you have plans for the next day.

Jackreacherstrousers · 13/07/2024 09:39

I too am married to a very kind man and my DH would always help if somebody requested it.
I love him for this part of his nature so I wouldn't have bothered me that he took the time to see someone home safely.
I would hope somebody would have done it for me if I was in a similar situation.
My DH very rarely drinks so I can't comment on the extended afternoon drinking session.

Chartreux · 13/07/2024 09:38

PuddlesPityParty · 13/07/2024 09:18

You wouldn’t want someone you knew to help you get home safe? Either you’re lying or you’re very strange.

Not in the least. If I were stupid enough to go out and get so drunk that I wasn't sure I could get home safely, I'd call a cab. I wouldn't expect to mess up someone else's evening.

boredsoscrollingonMNagain · 13/07/2024 09:38

YANBU .

He’s a married man , not his responsibility to wait around for a random woman to get home safe when he has a wife and kids waiting at home .

Sounds like it’s just an excuse to stay out drinking later and maybe he thought he could use it as you’re a woman and how could you argue with him keeping a woman safe ! A silly drunk mind . Highly doubt it’s anything untoward as otherwise he wouldn’t have mentioned the woman , he’s been an idiot and just stayed out drinking with his mates .

Bouldersandrocks · 13/07/2024 09:37

Chartreux · 13/07/2024 09:36

This person hadn't lost her friends, her phone or her bag. So this is irrelevant.

Exactly

Chartreux · 13/07/2024 09:36

DoreenonTill8 · 13/07/2024 09:15

So if you were out and were drunk, had lost your friends and phone/bag.
And you saw someone you knew, you wouldn't accept their help because they were married and you'd prefer to be vulnerable and stuck?

This person hadn't lost her friends, her phone or her bag. So this is irrelevant.

paperrocksiscissors · 13/07/2024 09:36

ChristmasFluff · 13/07/2024 08:56

Plenty of people on this thread don't know how this type of man works. The '1% battery left" is to make sure you don't phone them, so they can do what they want knowing they won't be disturbed.

Then the deliberate derailment of the conversation from him being 'unable' to get a woman home ASAP, into the OP 'not checking he was ok'. And then the smirk (duper's delight).

And let's not mention the triangulation he then brought in, that he thought the woman had 'ulterior motives'

At first, I thought this was something and nothing, but those things? It's not the OP who is controlling, and this will be the tip of a whole manipulative liar iceberg.

Agree.

He sounds like a bit of a prick to be honest. Go with your gut instinct OP. You say he's done this before . Its time for an honest conversation, and tell him things cannot continue as they are.

Bouldersandrocks · 13/07/2024 09:35

Barryplopper · 13/07/2024 09:29

She hadn't lost her phone and she had another friend there that gave her a lift home

I wouldn’t ever get drunk enough to lose my inhibitions so the answer is no… to answer the original posters goading question

Bouldersandrocks · 13/07/2024 09:34

PuddlesPityParty · 13/07/2024 09:18

You wouldn’t want someone you knew to help you get home safe? Either you’re lying or you’re very strange.

We’re not talking about getting lost, the woman at the pub isn’t someone who accidentally found herself in a vulnerable situation and desperately required the help of OPs husband to keep her safe. Let’s keep it in the context of what this woman did. She stayed out getting drunker and drunker, asking and expecting the OPs husband to take care of her and while offloading personal vulnerabilities, likely connecting on a deeper level. Where do moments like that lead to?
No I’d prefer not to end up alone, emotionally and/or physically vulnerable with someone else’s husband.
If I was sober and perhaps middle of the day, the context would be entirely different. I don’t see a situation where I’d put myself in that position but then again I wouldn’t be getting recklessly drunk in the first place that I required a man to look after me through the night… the woman is out of order but the husband should be wise to that game. How naive for him to stay there ‘helping’ her make it home safe.

Devilsadvocat · 13/07/2024 09:34

Doubter2 · 13/07/2024 00:06

Helping someone home is fine, but I'm not so sure about:

Battery miraculously recovering
Deflecting and blaming you for not calling him
Blaming you for not being worried (Deny/attack)

I agree with this so many cool mums having a go at the OP. He could have just shoved her in a Uber. Wonder what would be said on here if his mate was a bloke.

Chartreux · 13/07/2024 09:33

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Tell me you know nothing about neurodivergence without saying you know nothing about neurodivergence ...

Barryplopper · 13/07/2024 09:29

DoreenonTill8 · 13/07/2024 09:15

So if you were out and were drunk, had lost your friends and phone/bag.
And you saw someone you knew, you wouldn't accept their help because they were married and you'd prefer to be vulnerable and stuck?

She hadn't lost her phone and she had another friend there that gave her a lift home

NextPhaseOfLife · 13/07/2024 09:23

Morning OP,

I just wanted to ask, do you work, do you have your own income?

The only reason I ask is from your posts, it seems your DH has a way of manipulating your worries/opinions.

If you're 100% dependent on him, financially, this doesn't help you being on an even footing with people like this, as they can feel they always have the upper hand.

So hopefully you do work. But if you don't, I'd make plans to.

PuddlesPityParty · 13/07/2024 09:18

Bouldersandrocks · 13/07/2024 09:10

No I absolutely would not expect nor want someone else’s husband to comfort and console me, or help me home in a drunken state.. unless I hoped it would lead to more.
Utterly wrong and there’s no reasoning that would sway me otherwise.

You wouldn’t want someone you knew to help you get home safe? Either you’re lying or you’re very strange.

DoreenonTill8 · 13/07/2024 09:15

Bouldersandrocks · 13/07/2024 09:10

No I absolutely would not expect nor want someone else’s husband to comfort and console me, or help me home in a drunken state.. unless I hoped it would lead to more.
Utterly wrong and there’s no reasoning that would sway me otherwise.

So if you were out and were drunk, had lost your friends and phone/bag.
And you saw someone you knew, you wouldn't accept their help because they were married and you'd prefer to be vulnerable and stuck?

Booboobedooo · 13/07/2024 09:14

ChristmasFluff · 13/07/2024 08:56

Plenty of people on this thread don't know how this type of man works. The '1% battery left" is to make sure you don't phone them, so they can do what they want knowing they won't be disturbed.

Then the deliberate derailment of the conversation from him being 'unable' to get a woman home ASAP, into the OP 'not checking he was ok'. And then the smirk (duper's delight).

And let's not mention the triangulation he then brought in, that he thought the woman had 'ulterior motives'

At first, I thought this was something and nothing, but those things? It's not the OP who is controlling, and this will be the tip of a whole manipulative liar iceberg.

Agree except I assumed the smirk was just to be belittling and put OP in her place with his point-scoring BS

5amClub · 13/07/2024 09:11

He’s told you he went home with another woman who has a ‘reputation’ locally after they hung out together drinking in a bar.

Either he’s arse covering in case someone tells you he was behaving badly so he’s got this white knight story in early OR he wants you to feel insecure in your relationship. He told you he essentially wasn’t contactable and then tried to make you feel guilty you didn’t call or worry about him.

I wonder why that might be.

wickerlady · 13/07/2024 09:10

What a load of nonsense.

Bouldersandrocks · 13/07/2024 09:10

PuddlesPityParty · 13/07/2024 08:29

Sorry but she is being unreasonable.

Doesn’t sound like he stays out late often and clearly this woman was upset. You’d like to think someone would help you if you were in such a state wouldn’t you? He’s hardly put anyone’s needs before his wife’s - she made a rod for her own back with the bedtime kiss thing and is frankly a ridiculous thing to have done. Plans change - doesn’t sound like the husband came in paralytic either. Shit happens sometimes.

No I absolutely would not expect nor want someone else’s husband to comfort and console me, or help me home in a drunken state.. unless I hoped it would lead to more.
Utterly wrong and there’s no reasoning that would sway me otherwise.

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Blondiebeachbabe · 13/07/2024 09:06

Tandora · 13/07/2024 08:19

Hmm. I think you are both being unreasonable tbh.

The key question I think is whether this is part of a pattern where he doesn’t pull his weight at home, goes out and doesn’t come home when he says he will. If this is the case, then this is a bigger conversation than the specifics of this one afternoon.

If this is not the case I think you were being controlling and inflexible to be giving him a hard time about exactly when he was coming home. Everybody deserves some time off and I’d have left him to it and hoped he enjoyed himself, (and then made sure I got some time to go out and do something for myself next time).

The good night kiss from daddy thing is a little silly. I understand because I have a small child who’s very particular like this, but you should have told her daddy was out and you were doing bedtime and that’s that. You shouldn’t have had the kids waiting up, that wasn’t fair on anyone and sounds a bit manipulative.

Him deflecting the conversation into why you didn’t check up on him is totally out of order and soo manipulative/ immature. Does he have form for communicating like that? I wouldn’t be able to stand someone like that tbh. This is the most unreasonable behaviour of all.

The drunk woman is a total red herring and YABU for bringing in that she “has a reputation”.

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The drunk woman is a total red herring and YABU for bringing in that she “has a reputation”

How is the drunk woman a red herring? I'd say the opposite.
Why is Op unreasonable to mention her reputation? It's relevant in this context. The woman he opted to stay out with, and go home with has a reputation of having sex with other men. It happens!

There's a woman in our town, who has a "reputation". She's married to a prominent businessman, who most people know. She's almost 50. She is in the pub every single weekend, getting absolutely pissed, wearing skimpy clothes like mini skirts and crop tops, even though she's overweight. She often takes men into the loos for blowjobs. At the village fayre she wore no knickers and a lot of men saw her fanny. Reputation? Of course. What do you expect?

Notsuchafattynow · 13/07/2024 09:05

So our children stayed awake to get their goodnight kiss from daddy, but I had to tell them that unfortunately thing had changed and daddy wouldn’t be able to be home in time.

You do sound manipulative here. Dad's out drinking and instead of giving him a time to come home by, you're using the kids to effectively try to control when he does come home.

Idratherbepaddleboarding · 13/07/2024 08:57

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