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He stayed out to help a lady get home safe… AIBU or is DH?

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SoulSissss · 12/07/2024 22:32

DH went out for “a couple of drinks” at 2.00pm. He text me at 5.30 and said that he’d be having another couple of drinks. He then messaged at 7.30 told me he would be home at 8.30 and also told me that his battery was at 1%. However, he then bumped into a lady he knows, who asked him to make sure she got home safe. She was drunk but not paralytic. It’s hard to access taxis in the place we live. He text me to tell me this at 9.15.

So our children stayed awake to get their goodnight kiss from daddy, but I had to tell them that unfortunately thing had changed and daddy wouldn’t be able to be home in time.

DH has just got home just after 10.00 and explained that the lady was upset about her marriage and wouldn’t stop talking to him about it. He said he felt he couldn’t leave her incase something happened to her. I totally understand that but explained that it’s not his job to babysit an adult. He could have explained that he would be leaving and could make sure she got home okay if she left now. I then said that DD was upset (suspected neurodivergent) that he wasn’t home. He said he tried for ages to get her to leave but it was difficult.

He then completely deflected and said, well if DD was so upset, why didn’t I phone him. I explained that I knew he was on 1% battery ages before hand and we had been waiting expecting him to come through the door any minute. He said “so you knew I planned to be home at 8.30 and when I still wasn’t home at 9.15 you weren’t even concerned for my safety???” I explained again, I didn’t think his phone would even possibly still be on at that time and that no, I wasn’t concerned for his safety! He began smirking and rolling his eyes.

I told him that I’m really upset at how he is speaking to me and I’d be happy if he just left the house. I think he is being completely out of order. But maybe it’s me?

I know I’ve given specific timings for messages. I’m not actually that anal about stuff, but I want to share an actuate timeline so that you get the full picture.

AIBU??

OP posts:
Hmm1234 · 14/07/2024 18:05

Phone was on 1% biggest tale in the book sounds like jay slater. He cared more about a woman’s mental state than his own partner, why not tell the bar staff. He definitely cheated

Chartreux · 13/07/2024 23:23

LuckySantangelo35 · 13/07/2024 11:05

What if someone has a heart attack in the street for example? would you be ok with your husband staying with them to phone ambulance etc or would you expect him to walk past them so he could home to you and the kids when he said he would be?

What's the relevance of this? No-one was having a heart attack.

Chartreux · 13/07/2024 23:21

whinginglittlefucker · 13/07/2024 10:54

None of this would bother me. If my DP thought it was important to help this woman I would accept this. I know that he would only prioritise someone else over us if it was necessary. This morning make sure your DD with possible ND gets an age appropriate explanation and reassurance that do not happen as we expect can turn out OK.

Would you accept it even though the woman actually got a lift home with someone else and your DP for some unfathomable reason insisted on going along with them?

Chartreux · 13/07/2024 23:15

Plantparent · 13/07/2024 10:03

I actually cannot believe how many people on here think that it would have been fine not to help the drunk woman! So many women are killed, it is absolutely not okay to leave a woman alone, drunk and vulnerable for the sake of a partner's insecurities.

There are so many posters on here that write about their husband's staying out/fraternising with other woman/checking out of family life etc. I honestly think if my husband did things like threatening to throw me out of the house for coming home at 10pm, tried to stop me helping a drunk person and used the DC's bedtime to manipulate me to come home, I would probably feel like checking out of family life/life with him too! If you reverse the genders of this post, there would be entirely different answers.

She wasn't alone or vulnerable. She didn't even want to go home, and when she did, someone else took her. This is just ridiculous.

Gogogo12345 · 13/07/2024 23:11

Blondiebeachbabe · 13/07/2024 13:59

It's not mysogynistic to point out that certain behaviours will gain you a reputation. People aren't blind. There is also a man here who does very similar - he also has a reputation.

Her reputation is not irrelevant. Op's husband staying out drinking late with a woman who is around his age, known for being a bit risque, has made it clear she fancies him, he wants to see her home, he lies about his phone being on 1% (ie. setting the scene for going awol)

.....completely different to Op's husband trying to get 90 year old Jim home safely.

But it's not making the husband do anything. That would completely be his choice

Are you saying if the local bike grabbed your husband and undid his flies then it's not his fault if he sleeps with her? He would have the choice to say no

Booboobedooo · 13/07/2024 17:34

Tandora · 13/07/2024 12:44

Ugh the misogyny. Her reputation is irrelevant because OP’s husband is responsible for his own behaviour. Either OP trusts her husband or she doesn’t. If the latter then this thread is about that and the reasons he is untrustworthy ( not what time in the afternoon he came home and whether he gave the kids a goodnight kiss).

It’s not irrelevant because the credibility of this other person implicates how plausible his story is.

If this woman was someone you knew to be a straight arrow, you’d be able to discount quite easily the possibility there was anything untoward going on and the possibility that the DH just found a willing drinking buddy and the possibility that he knew himself the ‘help me get home’ schtick wasn’t all that genuine.

I 100% think that any woman should shag whoever she likes whenever she likes and what of it? whilst also acknowledging that someone who is a drinker and flirtatious and into casual sex has a higher probability of drinking, flirting and having casual sex than someone who isn’t into those things.

Of course you can take the characters of the people involved into account in weighing up how plausible you find his story.

Ilovelurchers · 13/07/2024 14:24

I think all this talk of the woman's "reputation" is somewhat archaic. Unless her reputation is for coercing married men into cheating (and how would she do that?)

I can imagine my own fella using this "damsel in distress" story to paint himself as a hero tho. Or at least, he used to do stuff like this before he quit drinking. I actually had mixed feelings -I liked the fact he helped people, but also was aware he used it as an excuse to ignore MY needs from him at times. No doubt I was sometimes jealous too. In the end we worked through it. (We both compromised - and both stopped drinking!)

Allfur · 13/07/2024 14:12

Classic drinker's story, always looking for someone else to put the blame on to extend their drinking

Blondiebeachbabe · 13/07/2024 13:59

Tandora · 13/07/2024 12:44

Ugh the misogyny. Her reputation is irrelevant because OP’s husband is responsible for his own behaviour. Either OP trusts her husband or she doesn’t. If the latter then this thread is about that and the reasons he is untrustworthy ( not what time in the afternoon he came home and whether he gave the kids a goodnight kiss).

It's not mysogynistic to point out that certain behaviours will gain you a reputation. People aren't blind. There is also a man here who does very similar - he also has a reputation.

Her reputation is not irrelevant. Op's husband staying out drinking late with a woman who is around his age, known for being a bit risque, has made it clear she fancies him, he wants to see her home, he lies about his phone being on 1% (ie. setting the scene for going awol)

.....completely different to Op's husband trying to get 90 year old Jim home safely.

Tandora · 13/07/2024 12:44

Blondiebeachbabe · 13/07/2024 09:06

The drunk woman is a total red herring and YABU for bringing in that she “has a reputation”

How is the drunk woman a red herring? I'd say the opposite.
Why is Op unreasonable to mention her reputation? It's relevant in this context. The woman he opted to stay out with, and go home with has a reputation of having sex with other men. It happens!

There's a woman in our town, who has a "reputation". She's married to a prominent businessman, who most people know. She's almost 50. She is in the pub every single weekend, getting absolutely pissed, wearing skimpy clothes like mini skirts and crop tops, even though she's overweight. She often takes men into the loos for blowjobs. At the village fayre she wore no knickers and a lot of men saw her fanny. Reputation? Of course. What do you expect?

Ugh the misogyny. Her reputation is irrelevant because OP’s husband is responsible for his own behaviour. Either OP trusts her husband or she doesn’t. If the latter then this thread is about that and the reasons he is untrustworthy ( not what time in the afternoon he came home and whether he gave the kids a goodnight kiss).

Ponoka7 · 13/07/2024 12:26

SoulSissss · 12/07/2024 23:49

They aren’t even friends, just acquaintances who would say hello to one another. Hence why DH believes there was an ulterior motive to the whole thing, and I think he’s probably right. DH actually said that he made her his priority though.

There was a night a couple of years ago that I couldn’t get a taxi home. DH was in bed at home and the kids were in bed. He wouldn’t get up and pop the kids in the car to collect me. I was literally stranded. I have just remembered this and I’m now extra upset about the whole thing.

I'm sorry but that is typical "im a good guy trapped by a harlot" bullshit excuse. He's telling you that he was in with a chance but turned it down. Why do women readily believe this about other women when we've had experiences of men/boys who've said they've shagged someone they haven't?
As said he's using DARVO and has wanted a reason why he was in her company incase someone says something. For all we know her friend has stepped in, because your DH wasn't leaving. I'd be keen open mind on what's gone on, but not in his favour given that he's left you previously stranded.

Gogogo12345 · 13/07/2024 12:21

CovertPiggery · 13/07/2024 12:15

Agreed.

It all sounds very suspicious.

Why did he go for a drink at 2pm alone on a Friday?

Then prepping you by saying she had ulterior motives.

If I was out drinking alone (which I wouldn't be, but for argument's sake) and a man I vaguely know came up tomme with ulterior motives, I wouldn't drink with him for 2 hours & pretend my phone had 1% battery, then come home and start trying to turn things around on my husband.

Where's it say he was out drinking alone?

easylikeasundaymorn · 13/07/2024 12:21

SlebBB · 13/07/2024 10:35

What phone has he got where 1% battery lasts 45 mins? I want one!
Naah he’s chanced his arm with another woman and then deflected it so you were in the wrong.

not 45 mins, 1hr 45 (message saying it's at 1% at 7.30, then another text at 9.15!
as many others have said, this is completely implausible. At 1% my phone is seconds away from dying, even if you put it on flight mode it wouldn't stay on for another 2 hours. Besides which it's hardly as if it goes from 50 to 1% immediately, you'd think he'd have noticed when it was at 15% or whatever and taken steps to conserve the battery then.

He was planning to stay out much later by 7.30, and didn't want you to phone and nag him. Whether that was because he just wanted a few drinks with his mates, or something more dubious, who knows.

CovertPiggery · 13/07/2024 12:15

MissUltraViolet · 13/07/2024 07:50

He told you he had 1% battery left because he didn't want to have to communicate with you/didn't want you to try communicate with him. If he was using his phone a couple of hours later he didn't have 1% left or he ended up somewhere he could charge his phone.

He then decided to switch it up and question you about your behaviour to divert your attention.

If it smells like a rat....

Agreed.

It all sounds very suspicious.

Why did he go for a drink at 2pm alone on a Friday?

Then prepping you by saying she had ulterior motives.

If I was out drinking alone (which I wouldn't be, but for argument's sake) and a man I vaguely know came up tomme with ulterior motives, I wouldn't drink with him for 2 hours & pretend my phone had 1% battery, then come home and start trying to turn things around on my husband.

2Rebecca · 13/07/2024 12:06

Also what happened to the people he'd gone drinking with at 2pm? They suddenly vanished and it was just him and a drunk woman at 8.30pm on a light summer evening in a pub and he couldn't possibly leave her but had to stay and drink for another hour? He wasn't driving anyway . There was obviously this mutual male friend with a car and him then trying to play the damsel in distress card with being all "poor me" about you not phoning the police or whatever he expected when a bloke with a flat battery on his mobile is late home.

CatherineofAmazon · 13/07/2024 12:03

You’d be a fool to be taken in by all his bullshit. He’s been up to no good and now turning it round on you for not checking he’s okay. Can you see that OP.

dogmandu · 13/07/2024 11:51

@SoulSissss
what made me really upset is he began quizzing me on why I wasn’t checking on him since he wasn’t home when he said he would be.

I have to say this made me immediately suspicious. Also the fact that he was joking around about it. These were the tactics used by my ex in order to deflect attention from what he had done and to try to turn the whole thing into something much more lighthearted and funny.

He could have told the drunken woman I will take you home if you go now as I need to get home as well, but he didn't. I can't help feeling that the 'he was great waiting until she wanted to go home' brigade are totally naiive. Of course he should not have ditched his responsibilities to his wife and children, in order to stay out late himself to make sure that she got home OK.

TheHuntSyndicate · 13/07/2024 11:51

I can smell the bullshit from here. He's lying.

Puffinfoot · 13/07/2024 11:37

ChrisPPancake · 13/07/2024 11:30

The dh didn't know the child was waiting up for him though, as far as I can tell from op's posts that was her choice.

Are you seriously saying parents of ND children are not allowed out past dc bedtime?

No, I'm saying all parents should turn up when they said they would, except in an emergency, which is obviously how he's tried to paint this, but it clearly isn't.

Why would DH not know DD was expecting him, when he said he'd be home and the usual routine is for him to kiss her goodnight, which he knows is important to her?

ChrisPPancake · 13/07/2024 11:30

Puffinfoot · 13/07/2024 11:11

Of course she could have done, and she did, but what message is he sending to any DD, even one who doesn't openly show she's upset, by saying staying in the pub was more important to him than being home as promised?

The dh didn't know the child was waiting up for him though, as far as I can tell from op's posts that was her choice.

Are you seriously saying parents of ND children are not allowed out past dc bedtime?

Puffinfoot · 13/07/2024 11:16

The "bumped into" is also off. It might be normal(ish) for men to drink alone, but how often do you see woman in the pub alone? Who had she gone there with and why didn't they stay with her?

I'm not a clingy person. I often go out for a full day and evening of drinking and I'd have no problem with DH doing it, but we'd both know that was the plan beforehand, and neither of us would make up such a cock and bull story to excuse it. That's the issue, not that he was out for several hours.

2Rebecca · 13/07/2024 11:11

How would this woman he "bumped in to" have got home if he hadn't been there? To me it sounds bizarre that if he started drinking at 2 he wasn't home by 6. The wanting to be a night in shining armour stuff sounds like a lie especially as he got a lift home from some other bloke who she could have just asked instead although I think women should be self sufficient and not rely on random men in pubs to escort them home.

Puffinfoot · 13/07/2024 11:11

LuckySantangelo35 · 13/07/2024 11:08

@Puffinfoot

surely after a certain point op could have just put her to bed at usual time explaining that dad would give her a good night kiss when she was asleep or whatever? It won’t be the first time and it won’t be the last time that he or op won’t be home at the time they thought they would be for whatever reason.

Of course she could have done, and she did, but what message is he sending to any DD, even one who doesn't openly show she's upset, by saying staying in the pub was more important to him than being home as promised?

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Puffinfoot · 13/07/2024 11:10

LuckySantangelo35 · 13/07/2024 11:05

What if someone has a heart attack in the street for example? would you be ok with your husband staying with them to phone ambulance etc or would you expect him to walk past them so he could home to you and the kids when he said he would be?

Don't be ridiculous.

The fact is the man is lying, or do you believe:

-His phone did stay on 1% for nearly 2 hours
-He was the only one who could possibly have helped this poor drunk broken hearted woman
-He was really upset that DW didn't try to contact him when he was late, despite him having told her he'd be uncontactable.
-He prioritised said broken hearted woman over his DD just because he's a good chap.