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He stayed out to help a lady get home safe… AIBU or is DH?

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SoulSissss · 12/07/2024 22:32

DH went out for “a couple of drinks” at 2.00pm. He text me at 5.30 and said that he’d be having another couple of drinks. He then messaged at 7.30 told me he would be home at 8.30 and also told me that his battery was at 1%. However, he then bumped into a lady he knows, who asked him to make sure she got home safe. She was drunk but not paralytic. It’s hard to access taxis in the place we live. He text me to tell me this at 9.15.

So our children stayed awake to get their goodnight kiss from daddy, but I had to tell them that unfortunately thing had changed and daddy wouldn’t be able to be home in time.

DH has just got home just after 10.00 and explained that the lady was upset about her marriage and wouldn’t stop talking to him about it. He said he felt he couldn’t leave her incase something happened to her. I totally understand that but explained that it’s not his job to babysit an adult. He could have explained that he would be leaving and could make sure she got home okay if she left now. I then said that DD was upset (suspected neurodivergent) that he wasn’t home. He said he tried for ages to get her to leave but it was difficult.

He then completely deflected and said, well if DD was so upset, why didn’t I phone him. I explained that I knew he was on 1% battery ages before hand and we had been waiting expecting him to come through the door any minute. He said “so you knew I planned to be home at 8.30 and when I still wasn’t home at 9.15 you weren’t even concerned for my safety???” I explained again, I didn’t think his phone would even possibly still be on at that time and that no, I wasn’t concerned for his safety! He began smirking and rolling his eyes.

I told him that I’m really upset at how he is speaking to me and I’d be happy if he just left the house. I think he is being completely out of order. But maybe it’s me?

I know I’ve given specific timings for messages. I’m not actually that anal about stuff, but I want to share an actuate timeline so that you get the full picture.

AIBU??

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LiterallyOnFire · 13/07/2024 01:09

shuggles · 13/07/2024 00:45

If he ditched the woman and something bad happened to her, everyone would be calling him a monster for not looking after a drunk person.

But they were with at least one other friend throughout (the driver) so what was the DO's vital role? He couldn't drive. Someone else drive them. Before that, they were in a pub surrounded by people. Unless he was hand pumping her emergency oxygen supply, it's hard to see why he was essential to her safety.

LiterallyOnFire · 13/07/2024 01:07

Is he problem drinker? He switched tactics on you mid conversation because he's uncomfortable so he l turned the tables as a diversionary tactic. That's either addictive behaviour or he's covering up something.

The ND thing; PP is right in her advice. With my eldest particularly I used to be quite explicit in talking about promises versus aspirations or how much time variation we might reasonably expect if the aim was to have the dinner at 6pm and would it be better to say "between 6 and half past" and so on... It helped.

Then you have the bits where unreliable (alcoholic?) partner and ND collide.

It might be an idea in future not to tell her about special days out etc ahead of time unless you are confident you can pull it off solo if DO is hungover.

itsmabeline · 13/07/2024 00:54

The helping a woman he knows get home seems reasonable to me and so although a bit annoying he was late, wouldn't bother me overall.

But it bothers you and he needs to take that into account, not what strangers on the internet think, so address this with him.

Wait until he's slept and sober, it's not a conversation worth having with someone already drunk.

shuggles · 13/07/2024 00:45

If he ditched the woman and something bad happened to her, everyone would be calling him a monster for not looking after a drunk person.

Opentooffers · 13/07/2024 00:39

Oh I bet he knew he'd get a lift too if he hung around for her mate. But, really he's just full of excuses to carry on drinking. You seem to suggest that it's not the first time he's come back late after drinking. I'm sure he had other excuses then too.

Twototwo15 · 13/07/2024 00:29

I think 10:00 at night till 9:00 the following morning is plenty of time for someone to rest and sober up, especially if they are not paralytic, which it doesn’t sound like he is, being able to have a reasonably normal conversation. Why do you think he won’t be in a fit state by then?

RawBloomers · 13/07/2024 00:20

Other than your probablyND DD and the possibility he won’t be fit for tomorrow, do you have any issue with what he did? You seem to have no concerns about infidelity so I’m going to ignore that, it’s the obvious one that a lot of posters have jumped on, but I can see, from your description, why you might have dismissed it.

I think telling him off (?Badgering him?) when he came in was a bit off if this isn’t a common occurrence. He’d had a nice time out, done a good deed and then come home to hassle and bad feeling. Unless there’s a bigger story, other issues, or you never get time away when you want it, I kind of see this as the turning point here. It was a one off. It caused you more hassle than you wanted, of course, but being able to occasionally not be constricted by timetables because you have a partner who you can rely on is one of the joys of a good marriage.

But I do see there could well be bigger issues that these two things last night are just highlights for. Does he not see DD’s needs in the way you see them? Is this a bigger issue that the one night and his not making sure he gets back when he said he would just one way he lets her down and you have to pick up the pieces and deal with the distress when he never needs too and has no ideas for handling it? Can you rely on him to see to your DC’s needs if you aren’t there and want to stay out longer than initially agreed? And does he have form for not being fit for family time because he’s priotised drinking? Because these I could see being the sorts of issues that start as one offs and become bigger and bigger in impact (even if the actual “offence” is less than the time before). and not only that they have an impact, but that they signal a lack of engagement in the family. Leaving all the hassle to you.

womenarehuman · 13/07/2024 00:14

I think what he did is OK, as long as it isn't part of a pattern. But his questioning you about whether you were worried for his safety, and in particular that He began smirking and rolling his eyes when you explained, very logically, why you did not call him casts him as a bit of a potential arsehole, and possibly as a misogynist. However, if your child is so upset when you aren't both home when you say you will be and doesn't accept that plans can change, maybe agree on backup plan if one of you is delayed or has obligations elsewhere and she does get upset by this. This shouldn't fall on one or the other of you disproportionately.

SoulSissss · 13/07/2024 00:10

They ended up getting a lift home by another guy who is friends with her. So subsequently, she would have got home safely without DH. But in fairness, he wouldn’t have known that was how it would play out.

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SoulSissss · 13/07/2024 00:09

NotbloodyGivingupYet · 12/07/2024 23:59

Come on people, he wasn't just seeing her home. She "made him" stay in the pub drinking with her for a couple of hours and THEN he saw her home. After he'd already been there for about four hours. He could have said he'd see her home but she'd have to go there and then. There must have been someone else in the pub who could have kept an eye on her if she refused. He's prioritised this comparative stranger over his wife and child.

This is how I feel.

and then gaslighted me.

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Doubter2 · 13/07/2024 00:06

Helping someone home is fine, but I'm not so sure about:

Battery miraculously recovering
Deflecting and blaming you for not calling him
Blaming you for not being worried (Deny/attack)

Doubter2 · 13/07/2024 00:02

If my phone battery was on 1% at 7.30pm...there's no way it would still be on and able to text at 9.15pm.

Was he putting you off trying to contact him 🤔

NotbloodyGivingupYet · 12/07/2024 23:59

Come on people, he wasn't just seeing her home. She "made him" stay in the pub drinking with her for a couple of hours and THEN he saw her home. After he'd already been there for about four hours. He could have said he'd see her home but she'd have to go there and then. There must have been someone else in the pub who could have kept an eye on her if she refused. He's prioritised this comparative stranger over his wife and child.

SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 12/07/2024 23:55

SoulSissss · 12/07/2024 23:49

They aren’t even friends, just acquaintances who would say hello to one another. Hence why DH believes there was an ulterior motive to the whole thing, and I think he’s probably right. DH actually said that he made her his priority though.

There was a night a couple of years ago that I couldn’t get a taxi home. DH was in bed at home and the kids were in bed. He wouldn’t get up and pop the kids in the car to collect me. I was literally stranded. I have just remembered this and I’m now extra upset about the whole thing.

You know that is probably why this upsets you because he should have come to get you then or have helped in some other way- got a taxi, called a friend of the kids couldn’t be disturbed.

He did the right thing for this acquaintance, but not for you.

Another day when heads are calmer, I’d raise the issue with him. Not tonight. Not tomorrow (as big day out). Perhaps Sunday?

WTF99 · 12/07/2024 23:51

@SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice of course I wouldn't want to see any of those scenarios happen to a vulnerable woman, but I'm just speculating as to why the only person available to her to provide support was the Ops dh.
If he really was the only person.present who could ensure her safety, then of course he did the right thing. And if I was his partner and he explained to me just how vital his intervention had been for this woman, then.if course I would be fine with that....

SoulSissss · 12/07/2024 23:50

I rarely go out, but DH goes out regularly.

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SoulSissss · 12/07/2024 23:49

WTF99 · 12/07/2024 23:41

Why would he be listening to her marriage issues? Does she not have a female friend to confide in who she could also walk home with? Can't be doing with this distressed damsel/rescue me scenario, which he was apparently only to happy to help with

They aren’t even friends, just acquaintances who would say hello to one another. Hence why DH believes there was an ulterior motive to the whole thing, and I think he’s probably right. DH actually said that he made her his priority though.

There was a night a couple of years ago that I couldn’t get a taxi home. DH was in bed at home and the kids were in bed. He wouldn’t get up and pop the kids in the car to collect me. I was literally stranded. I have just remembered this and I’m now extra upset about the whole thing.

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NotbloodyGivingupYet · 12/07/2024 23:49

No point arguing with him when he's drunk and on the defensive. He probably thought he was being a knight in shining armour and is not happy to find you don't share his point of view. Although when he's sobered up he might realise what an arse he's been. If the disappearing out for hours drinking is a regular thing, then you need to have a Proper Talk. It's really not on to leave you to cope on your own, at what is plainly a stressful time with your DD.

LuckySantangelo35 · 12/07/2024 23:46

SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 12/07/2024 23:42

So it would be ok for a random drunk woman with marriage issues to be potentially at risk so long as the DH gets home at half 8 instead of at 10? What about a random sober woman with no marriage issues?

You seriously think 90minutes of his time is worth so much to the OP “and his children” that you’re ok with him just ignoring a request for help?

You know that random drunk woman with marriage issues could be you or your sister, or a friend one day. Would you be ok if there was an inquest and MrSmith was like “yeah the victim was drunk and asked me to see her home, but getting home to my wife and kids by half 8 was more important, so I left her there. I had no idea she’d fall into a canal and drown- it’s only a 30min walk but I just couldn’t spare the time”

@WTF99

he potentially saved her coming to harm for the sake of what? Coming home two hours later than he thought he would?! It wasn’t even late at night!

SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 12/07/2024 23:45

WTF99 · 12/07/2024 23:41

Why would he be listening to her marriage issues? Does she not have a female friend to confide in who she could also walk home with? Can't be doing with this distressed damsel/rescue me scenario, which he was apparently only to happy to help with

Probably because falling over drunk people who are drowning their sorrows tend to also broadcast these sorrows to anyone and everyone around them.

SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 12/07/2024 23:43

SoulSissss · 12/07/2024 23:36

I appreciate this advice. We have only fairly recently found out that she is likely ND. Which explains a lot. I genuinely believed DH would be home by the time she went to bed. Which on reflection, was stupid of me. Lesson learned for me.

Trust me, I learned this the hard way too! (two of mine have ASD)

SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 12/07/2024 23:42

WTF99 · 12/07/2024 23:35

He prioritised random drunk woman with marriage issues over you and his children. I wouldn't be happy. She isn't his responsibility. You and his children are. He then tried to gaslight you by calling into question why you werent worried about him.
I would definitely be having a conversation about this, though I wouldn't be asking him to leave......unless this is the latest in a series of similar events.
Convo probably better had when he is sober

So it would be ok for a random drunk woman with marriage issues to be potentially at risk so long as the DH gets home at half 8 instead of at 10? What about a random sober woman with no marriage issues?

You seriously think 90minutes of his time is worth so much to the OP “and his children” that you’re ok with him just ignoring a request for help?

You know that random drunk woman with marriage issues could be you or your sister, or a friend one day. Would you be ok if there was an inquest and MrSmith was like “yeah the victim was drunk and asked me to see her home, but getting home to my wife and kids by half 8 was more important, so I left her there. I had no idea she’d fall into a canal and drown- it’s only a 30min walk but I just couldn’t spare the time”

WTF99 · 12/07/2024 23:41

Why would he be listening to her marriage issues? Does she not have a female friend to confide in who she could also walk home with? Can't be doing with this distressed damsel/rescue me scenario, which he was apparently only to happy to help with

SoulSissss · 12/07/2024 23:36

SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 12/07/2024 23:34

Yeah, speaking from experience, parents do get delayed unknown amounts of time for different reasons (ie extra shift, train delay, etc) and it is easier on the child to say from the start “daddy might be home in time, but if not he will say good night to you while you are sleeping” and then proceed with the bedtime routine at normal time. Especially with a day out planned for the next day! A ND child will need all their sleep to cope and should not be staying up late waiting and wondering.

I appreciate this advice. We have only fairly recently found out that she is likely ND. Which explains a lot. I genuinely believed DH would be home by the time she went to bed. Which on reflection, was stupid of me. Lesson learned for me.

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Dweetfidilove · 12/07/2024 23:36

I'd be pleased my partner had seen a drunken woman home safely.

I wouldn't be impressed with one that had been on a whole day drinking marathon, whose words are inconsistent or who speaks to me in a disrespectful manner.
Those are far more serious for me than walking someone home.

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