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To think that Wimbledon needs to up its game?

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CoffeeCantata · 12/07/2024 18:39

I love watching Wimbledon and so much about it is excellent but...

The poor Linesmen/women! Those horrible outfits suit absolutely no-one and are totally inappropriate for the job. Whatever their physique, this gear just doesn't seem to fit any of them. Shirts with contrasting collars, ties (for goodness' sake!) and badly-cut trousers. How about a smart polo shirt and either shorts or culottes?

Why do the ball-girls have to wear skirts? Why not shorts like the boys? Seems a bit outmoded.

The umpires' chairs are magnificent structures, affording excellent views and with multiple shelves and all kinds of devices attached - they want for nothing. But the players!! Two miserable plastic chairs?? Why can't they have a specially designed unit featuring a cushioned seat, an integrated, lidded cool-box and shelves for all their stuff? It seems they just have to dump all their stuff around them - very untidy and a bit 'school sports day'.

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Kitkat1523 · 13/07/2024 09:31

BeaRF75 · 13/07/2024 07:51

I go to Wimbledon multiple times each year. It's not "upper class" at all. A few people in the good seats are smartly dressed..... and then 10,000 people come in from The Queue in jeans and hoodies, having paid £30 each! Don't perpetuate this nonsense that Wimbledon is elitist because it absolutely isn't - it's for everyone, and you will meet all kinds of people there.

We got seats for centre court in 2021 …..we had cargo pants and trainers ….no one was checking what we wore……even ladies wearing the most lovely dresses were wearing trainers with them…..most people get the tube in then have to walk to the grounds so heels are out

Kitkat1523 · 13/07/2024 09:27

It’s Wimbledon….it’s allowed to be a bit antwacky ….. why do girls and boys have to wear the same uniform?

WarsofWimbledon · 13/07/2024 08:38

Yeah I am a fan of a running skort

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 13/07/2024 08:35

jellymaker · 12/07/2024 23:08

I went last week. I felt like I had stepped into the set of Brideshead Revisited and Sebastian was around every corner. The umpires and lines men looked ridiculous with their white trousers. A lot of spectators were dressed very smartly. Men in suits and women in dresses you would wear to a wedding. Several high end shops are in the grounds. Its a very upper class atmosphere with most people probably having their own tennis courts. I think I'm middle class but I've never felt such a pleb. I don't get it.

I’ve been more than once (we live not too far away) and I’ve never felt remotely out of place. And I’ve never ‘dressed up’ - just normal non-scruffy casual. Sounds to me as if it’s all in your own head.
The general atmosphere and colours of the place - all green and purple - banks of purple flowers -are IMO lovely.

As for gender-neutral shorts, why is the male version of everything often assumed to be preferable? Or in this case, the female version (skort) seen to be inferior? Seems very anti-feminist to me!

NooNakedJacuzziness · 13/07/2024 08:21

Don't think Ralph Lauren will be too pleased to hear his designs are "badly cut" . Up yer game Ralph Grin

Gingerdancedbackwards · 13/07/2024 08:16

Another non-aibu post

LuluBlakey1 · 13/07/2024 08:15

jellymaker · 12/07/2024 23:08

I went last week. I felt like I had stepped into the set of Brideshead Revisited and Sebastian was around every corner. The umpires and lines men looked ridiculous with their white trousers. A lot of spectators were dressed very smartly. Men in suits and women in dresses you would wear to a wedding. Several high end shops are in the grounds. Its a very upper class atmosphere with most people probably having their own tennis courts. I think I'm middle class but I've never felt such a pleb. I don't get it.

Wimbledon was/is part of the London Season, along with events like the Henley Regatta, the Chelsea Flower Show, the Boat Race etc. It does have an association with the traditional activities of the British Upper Classes and the All England Club is very exclusive. However, Wimbledon, as a tournament, has long been open to anyone who wants to go.
I think they should maintain their standards and styles. I like them. I attended Wimbledon for years from being a teenager because of my dad's job- they provided tickets and then, after he retired, I bought tickets on the day. I never felt it was snobby - but there was a quite distinct code of behaviour at the time that some fans seem to ignore now. I find the booing horrible and the calling out at players awful. It used to be that there was no noise or applause until a point ended. You could wear whatever you wanted apart from clothing with huge logos clearly advertising. Yes some people made a day out of it and dressed smartly but most dressed casually but not in very revealing or skimpy clothes.

Can't see a problem with the officials' outfits- they are made of sports materials, and in-line with the Ralph Lauren and the All England Club 'look' which is about tradition. Officials are not athletes or ballboys/girls so have a more formal uniform which reflects that they make official decisions that affect the outcome of matches. Umpires have to climb up and down from the chair so trousers are more appropriate than shorts/skirts. I don't think shorts would be appropriate for linespeople as they are not necessarily young,fit and athletic and do a lot of bending. They don't want to be infront of millions on tv in unflattering shorts.

BeaRF75 · 13/07/2024 07:51

jellymaker · 12/07/2024 23:08

I went last week. I felt like I had stepped into the set of Brideshead Revisited and Sebastian was around every corner. The umpires and lines men looked ridiculous with their white trousers. A lot of spectators were dressed very smartly. Men in suits and women in dresses you would wear to a wedding. Several high end shops are in the grounds. Its a very upper class atmosphere with most people probably having their own tennis courts. I think I'm middle class but I've never felt such a pleb. I don't get it.

I go to Wimbledon multiple times each year. It's not "upper class" at all. A few people in the good seats are smartly dressed..... and then 10,000 people come in from The Queue in jeans and hoodies, having paid £30 each! Don't perpetuate this nonsense that Wimbledon is elitist because it absolutely isn't - it's for everyone, and you will meet all kinds of people there.

Whataloadofutterutternonesense · 13/07/2024 07:46

I don't think there will be any lines people next year...aren't they having lasers or something?

KatyaKabanova · 13/07/2024 07:36

It doesn't matter if you'd prefer to wear shorts as a teenager. The girls wear skorts and their modesty is preserved. The kit was designed with teenagers in mind. I have never seen a ball girl look awkward or uncomfortable.
I think Wimbledon is lovely, an oasis of style and good manners in a sea of leggings and oafishness.

CoffeeCantata · 13/07/2024 07:29

Thanks for all the responses!

Just to be clear (as some people missed the first sentence of my OP): I love the fuss and formality of Wimbledon - these are just the few jarring elements for me. I would definitely dress up - I'm not suggesting the whole event should become another sweaty parade of polyester and tracky bottoms!

I still think the players' seating could be better. I'm thinking of a smart, green-painted wooden bench with places for their stuff. Actually - they also need some kind of umbrella shelter/sunshade too - perhaps movable? If you look, you can see that the umpires' chairs have a shade. But the priority seems to be getting a (rather intrusive) shot of them while they rest between bouts, and this might prevent that.

I agree that the linespeople's uniforms are irredeemable, and if this job is being phased out then obviously they haven't re-designed them since Ralph Lauren. I would have given them a smart polo shirt in the Wimbledon colours and the choice of navy (longish) shorts or cullottes.

I'm reassured to hear that the ball girls' outfits are not as tailored to the male gaze as I'd thought. But I hope they do in fact have the option to wear shorts if they prefer - I know I would have!

I'm old enough to remember when a tiny logo on a tennis player's dress was enough to cause a controversy (players had to wear white with absolutely NO extraneous design, logo, colour or trim) to the point where she was almost disqualified. I notice they do have logos now, so times move on even at Wimbledon! But I'd hate to see just any old outfits on the players - I think the white against the green of the court is lovely.

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Starseeking · 13/07/2024 07:28

All uniforms are designed by Ralph Lauren, the collaboration has been going for years. Given it's a standard design, naturally it won't suit everyone; that's the nature of uniforms. They all look incredibly smart on real-life.

I love love love Wimbledon. Been a few times over the years, and the tradition and randomness are what make it so great.

tttigress · 13/07/2024 06:55

Grumpymiddleagedwoman43 · 13/07/2024 06:53

My only gripe with Wimbledon is how many empty seats there are during the later games- loads left empty last night for Djokovic/Musetti game.
They could be filling the seats with all the people sat on the hill outside, such a shame to waste them.

As far as I know, when people leave, their tickets are handed in and resold.

tttigress · 13/07/2024 06:54

I have attended a couple of times in the 2000s, I would actually say it is the best event I have attended in terms of organisation and atmosphere ever. (Including theatre, gigs, concerts, sports all around the world).

Grumpymiddleagedwoman43 · 13/07/2024 06:53

My only gripe with Wimbledon is how many empty seats there are during the later games- loads left empty last night for Djokovic/Musetti game.
They could be filling the seats with all the people sat on the hill outside, such a shame to waste them.

moose62 · 13/07/2024 06:44

CoffeeCantata · 12/07/2024 19:58

Gender-neutral hadn't occurred to me. I was thinking more of how I'd feel as a teenage girl, having to crouch down near the net ready to spring up, or to run across the court etc, wearing a skirt which might reveal my knicks.

If, as another poster said, they're actually 'skorts', and incorporate shorts so that underwear is not in danger of being revealed, then fine.

G-N has nothing to do with it, really, It's about practicality and that's the same, I would have thought, for everyone, when they're doing this job with spectators staring at you and with TV cameras on you.

My daughter was a ball girl 2 years running. They are skorts, they had no embarrassment wearing them. She loved the whole feeling of wimbledon and took great pride doing her job. My niece has worked there as a grounds person for the last 3 years and loves it because it is wimbledon, unique. Somethings can just be left alone.

Cuppapuppa · 13/07/2024 06:31

This. The reason it is:so good and prestigious is because of the traditions. If you start changing everything it loses its charm!

I think it’s changed quite a bit tbh compared to say 25 years ago. When I young, the ball person outfits were not RL, my siblings and friends were ball boys/girls. I think it was fewer schools back in those days. You could turn up early but not ridiculously early and get a ground pass which let you sit on one side of court 2. It’s definitely got posher & more celebrity photo opp!

Bunnycat101 · 13/07/2024 06:27

I remember seeing a documentary about the ball kids training and they do a brilliant job with them. It’s very competitive and they work really hard for it. It must be an awesome experience for them. I can’t say that my immediate thought when looking at the girls was re-design the uniform. I’d also say having recently been at a sports day, the girls in skorts were probably more appropriately dressed than some of the very short shorts on display.

KatyaKabanova · 13/07/2024 06:11

I think it's nice to dress up, there's leisure wear and trainers everywhere eise nowadays. I like the smart vibe.

Guavafish1 · 13/07/2024 03:38

players need a cool box under chair. The chair is fine! they are pros

I think lines ppls clothes is done by the sponsor.

AbraAbraCadabra · 13/07/2024 03:38

Leoraah · 12/07/2024 23:32

How do they choose the ball boys/girls? I thought they would be tennis fans/ young players.....but I saw a video yesterday when 2 of the players played with 2 of the ball girls and they were reeealllly bad at tennis! Like they could barely hit the ball. Just seemed strange!

They are from local schools.

AbraAbraCadabra · 13/07/2024 03:37

jellymaker · 12/07/2024 23:08

I went last week. I felt like I had stepped into the set of Brideshead Revisited and Sebastian was around every corner. The umpires and lines men looked ridiculous with their white trousers. A lot of spectators were dressed very smartly. Men in suits and women in dresses you would wear to a wedding. Several high end shops are in the grounds. Its a very upper class atmosphere with most people probably having their own tennis courts. I think I'm middle class but I've never felt such a pleb. I don't get it.

I do t know what happened when he you went but I've been twice and there is a mix of people dressed up (some areas have dress codes) and people just dressed as if on a day out. Most people are the latter. I never dress up and have never felt out of place. There's also a real mix of people. I was brought up on a council estate and definitely do not have a tennis court!

AbraAbraCadabra · 13/07/2024 03:33

MollyJustMight · 12/07/2024 19:16

Leave Wimbledon alone, why does everything have to change?

This. The reason it is:so good and prestigious is because of the traditions. If you start changing everything it loses its charm!

user1471453601 · 13/07/2024 02:15

Is Kyriargos still commentating on bbc? The person who thinks Andrew Tate Is a great guy? If so, I won't be watching.

MistyMountainTop · 13/07/2024 02:05

It's certain specific schools, in Merton, Wandsworth and Kingston for certain. They have several selection rounds within the school first and then the best go to a different training location and they get whittled down even more. The selections start in the autumn term and they have training from then until the championships. You had to know the basics of tennis to pass one of the selection rounds (the scoring system for sure!)

I go most years, I don't dress up, I wear trainers or walking sandals and trousers - whatever is appropriate for the weather forecast. Most people that I see dress similarly. But I don't mix with debenture holders or royal box attendees as I'm just a pleb. I don't have a tennis court at home. There are abour 42,000 people who attend each day, if they all had a tennis court there'd be an even bigger housing crisis in the country!