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To think that Wimbledon needs to up its game?

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CoffeeCantata · 12/07/2024 18:39

I love watching Wimbledon and so much about it is excellent but...

The poor Linesmen/women! Those horrible outfits suit absolutely no-one and are totally inappropriate for the job. Whatever their physique, this gear just doesn't seem to fit any of them. Shirts with contrasting collars, ties (for goodness' sake!) and badly-cut trousers. How about a smart polo shirt and either shorts or culottes?

Why do the ball-girls have to wear skirts? Why not shorts like the boys? Seems a bit outmoded.

The umpires' chairs are magnificent structures, affording excellent views and with multiple shelves and all kinds of devices attached - they want for nothing. But the players!! Two miserable plastic chairs?? Why can't they have a specially designed unit featuring a cushioned seat, an integrated, lidded cool-box and shelves for all their stuff? It seems they just have to dump all their stuff around them - very untidy and a bit 'school sports day'.

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Ballqueen · 17/07/2024 20:16

Please design well fitting cool comfortable clothes for the lines men and women.
And srnd some of them on a diet begore!

Ballqueen · 17/07/2024 20:12

The uniforms worn by Wimbledon umpires/lines people are frightful.
Hot, ill fitting, ghastly designs, totally inappropriate for the job they do.

Churchview · 16/07/2024 09:47

Bbq1 · 14/07/2024 23:21

You understand it starts off as pristine and becomes bare as the players actually play on it? There are no, "patches of mud" just a bit of scuffed grass where the players feet move. If you have no interest, don't watch it by "accident" in the pub.

Anyone can glance at the massive telly in the pub and make an innocent comment on the subject. The anger raised on this thread by people put out that I commented on the state of the grass is bewildering. Talk about hallowed turf.

Also - read the thread...the discussion went on.

KatyaKabanova · 14/07/2024 23:50

I think sometimes people look at events with tradition and think "it would be better if it was modern" without really thinking it through.

HRTQueen · 14/07/2024 23:48

Yes I agree a day at Wimbledon is really special

Its a great atmosphere

KatyaKabanova · 14/07/2024 23:46

It doesn't need to change.
It's very successful as it is.

XelaM · 14/07/2024 23:45

Wimbledon is a magical "happy place". My daughter and I have been a number of times through the queue and it's always worth it. 😃 (Also the tickets we get through the queue are amazing - really close to the court). Have we just been lucky or do they keep some of the best seats for the queue? My daughter got pictures with players and her ball signed 🎾. It's such a lovely place.

HRTQueen · 14/07/2024 23:45

why does it need to change

to be involved in Wimbledon is a great honour. I’m still not quite over not getting passed the rounds to be a ballgirl 😭😭😭 a few from my school made it

I really don’t think people care what they wear it looks smart and recognisable and people just want to be a part of the most prestigious tennis tournament

Bbq1 · 14/07/2024 23:21

Churchview · 13/07/2024 09:48

I've no interest in Wimbledon and only saw it on TV in the pub by accident.
The thing that amazed me was how appalling the state of the grass is. All that expertise and money and bald patches of mud everywhere.

You understand it starts off as pristine and becomes bare as the players actually play on it? There are no, "patches of mud" just a bit of scuffed grass where the players feet move. If you have no interest, don't watch it by "accident" in the pub.

XelaM · 14/07/2024 22:29

CoffeeCantata · 12/07/2024 19:58

Gender-neutral hadn't occurred to me. I was thinking more of how I'd feel as a teenage girl, having to crouch down near the net ready to spring up, or to run across the court etc, wearing a skirt which might reveal my knicks.

If, as another poster said, they're actually 'skorts', and incorporate shorts so that underwear is not in danger of being revealed, then fine.

G-N has nothing to do with it, really, It's about practicality and that's the same, I would have thought, for everyone, when they're doing this job with spectators staring at you and with TV cameras on you.

Most teenage girls love short skirts (in fact they roll their school skirts to make them shorter). My daughter plays tennis and loves her tennis skirts.

Not everyone wants to look like a boy.

MistyMountainTop · 14/07/2024 22:20

downtownlights · 14/07/2024 10:26

And protected parkland that helps to keep air clean for “us locals”. Not to mention a decade of heavy plant construction traffic. You won’t have access to the redeveloped version either, except a few scrubby corners around their massive maintenance buildings which will be blocked off for weeks either side of the championships.

Educate yourself: www.savewimbledonpark.org

I'm very well educated about the whole issue and don't need propaganda from the usual nimbys, thanks very much.

downtownlights · 14/07/2024 10:26

MistyMountainTop · 13/07/2024 12:25

  • *and local parkland concreted over

It's a golf course that we locals haven't been allowed on

And protected parkland that helps to keep air clean for “us locals”. Not to mention a decade of heavy plant construction traffic. You won’t have access to the redeveloped version either, except a few scrubby corners around their massive maintenance buildings which will be blocked off for weeks either side of the championships.

Educate yourself: www.savewimbledonpark.org

KatyaKabanova · 13/07/2024 20:01

Before Ralph Lauren, the design was classic and very smart.

ShamedBySiri · 13/07/2024 19:57

As for the linesman uniforms I mutter darkly every time I see them. Why didn't Wimbledon give the contract to a British designer? Ralph Lauren got it in 2006 and I have hated them ever since. The latest are dreadful. So badly cut , they don't fit anyone whatever their shape. The white skirts are a horror. The trousers crease dreadfully. I wonder if Wimbledon launders them or if they take them home to launder and iron themselves?

And I hate that the polo logo is massive and prominent. Surely it should be a very small discreet logo as per his usual shirts etc. I'm surprised Wimbledon approve it.

ShamedBySiri · 13/07/2024 19:46

On the subject of debentures years ago I worked for a nursing agency that catered for wealthy elderly, usually living in decrepit grandeur in flats in smart areas of London which hadn't been done up for thirty years.
I went to a lovely lady who lived near Harrods, she had slipped on the marble floor of the food hall and broken her arm. I cooked lunch for her, made up a bridge four and carried her book and drink to bed for her. A most enjoyable day.

Anyway I also once visited a lady living in a flat in Berkeley Square .

She said to me (put on your poshest voice) "Do you know what my husband gave me for my 50th birthday?"

Me: "NO! What did your husband give you for your 50th birthday??"

Her: "A debenture for Wimbledon!! Wasn't that lovely!"

I confess I have forever felt deprived that no one has given me a debenture for Wimbledon. Any birthday would do. Or even Christmas!

ShamedBySiri · 13/07/2024 19:37

I've been several times and absolutely love it. Tennis is the only sport I'm interested in. Sadly haven't had any luck in the ballot in recent years.
I've never felt it's too upper class. Obviously those in the debenture seats are somewhat more privileged than the rest of us, but they are greatly outnumbered by the tennis fans.
It's a lovely day out and imo very reasonably priced although that may have changed since I've last been. £80 for two tickets last time I went - a bargain for a great day out for two.

ShamedBySiri · 13/07/2024 19:32

BlackberrySky · 13/07/2024 11:03

As all lines men and women and ball boys and girls are volunteers I'm sure they are really honoured to work at such an event

Don't know about the linesmen/women but the ball boys and girls are paid.

I don't think they are volunteers. I recall reading an interview with a professional linesman about this job and how he got into it.

I would have thought there would be progression from line judge to umpire so it's a shame if the role of linesman is being phased out.

To think that Wimbledon needs to up its game?
CoffeeCantata · 13/07/2024 19:22

KatyaKabanova · 13/07/2024 19:18

It's not a funny thing to say. It's my opinion.
The ball girls are perfectly appropriately and modestly dressed.

You're being inconsistent though. You say that my opinion doesn't matter - but yours does? That's illogical.

None of our opinions matters, or all of them do - this is just a discussion!

But it's hilariously typical of aibu - people can get stewed up about the most mild and innocent things. Oh dear.

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CoffeeCantata · 13/07/2024 19:19

bluedomino · 13/07/2024 10:19

Arts & Crafts was earlier than 1920.

Well, duh!

It was indeed - it's been called "the most promising child of the Gothic Revival", and I agree.

And although its heyday was before the First World War, the A & C aesthetic was still hugely influential in the 20s, especially in terms of domestic architecture - look at the 'Metroland' building of the 20s and 30s. It started off, as many movements do, as an elite style which gradually filtered down in a diluted form to everyone.

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KatyaKabanova · 13/07/2024 19:18

It's not a funny thing to say. It's my opinion.
The ball girls are perfectly appropriately and modestly dressed.

CoffeeCantata · 13/07/2024 19:07

KatyaKabanova
It doesn't matter if you'd prefer to wear shorts as a teenager.

What a funny thing to say!

I don't suppose much of what any of us say on here matters - we're expressing opinions, and as private citizens, I guess none of them matter very much.

But they can be interesting to read and think about, to put it no higher than that.

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CoffeeCantata · 13/07/2024 19:01

NooNakedJacuzziness · 13/07/2024 08:21

Don't think Ralph Lauren will be too pleased to hear his designs are "badly cut" . Up yer game Ralph Grin

Oh but they are though!

Very unsuitable for their purpose and dated. The poor linespeople look as though they've come out of a 1980s office meeting.

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Churchview · 13/07/2024 17:38

@Runningupthecurtains That's stunning. Much more up my street.
Been reading up on the turf and it seems the modern faster style of game is much harder on the grass too.

Runningupthecurtains · 13/07/2024 17:32

@Churchview there was some beautiful horticulture on display too.

The nature of tennis focuses immense amounts of stress on a few square feet of turf unlike many sports where the play is more random or evenly spread.

To think that Wimbledon needs to up its game?
Churchview · 13/07/2024 17:23

Runningupthecurtains · 13/07/2024 17:01

Because you don't seem to understand that there is nothing, literally nothing, that can be done to make grass survive the type of pounding it takes at Wimbledon. You can see that it is due to wear as it is in set areas - the places where the vast majority of the play takes place.
That is why the wear patterns are pretty much identical on both sides of the net.

I'm a gardener not a groundsman - there are many different areas of horticulture and not many people know it all.

Sports pitches are not an area in which I have any experience. I was just genuinely surprised that it's so worn but I can see exactly what you mean.