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Is DD in the wrong here?

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MotherOfOlafs · 12/07/2024 17:55

DD14 has a friend let’s call him Alf. They hang around in a small group after school most days, they sit/lie around in a nearby park chatting. A few times Alf has twisted DD’s leg up behind her (imagine she’s lying face down on the grass, head propped up on hands). She says he grabs her foot and lifts and twists it, she says it hurts and she and her friends have repeatedly told him not to, she also spoke to a teacher who had a word with him.

Yesterday DD comes home upset (she’s not easily rattled) saying that Alf twisted her leg again so she reached behind and dug her nails in his arm and scratched him quite hard. She said she was in tears as her foot really hurt. She said he stormed off swearing at her and she called after him something like ‘play stupid games win stupid prizes’.

I hate the thought of DD raising hands to another kid and she’s never done it before so I was surprised. But I also don’t think she was really in the wrong? I think she went about it the wrong way but I also think she retaliated in anger and pain. DH says he’s on the fence.

YABU - DD shouldn’t have reacted the way she did and she should apologise to Alf

YANBU - Alf deserved it after repeated warnings and he should apologise to DD

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Tel12 · 13/07/2024 11:11

He's got a mark which someone left while defending themselves. He's got previous. I really don't see why this is an issue of concern. The real issue is that he's not a nice person, friends don't hurt each other.

Lindy2 · 13/07/2024 11:07

Let's hope Alf no longer finds deliberately hurting your daughter quite so funny anymore.

Tell your DD she always has the right to defend herself.

With friends like Alf who need enemies.

Schoolchoicesucks · 13/07/2024 10:46

She wouldn't be in any trouble with me. Someone deliberately doing something they know hurts (and risks causing an injury) and has been told to stop should expect an instinctive physical reaction - your daughter's scratch, a kick with her other leg etc.
He sounds annoying - is he actually a friend? Does she want to hang out with him?

Brefugee · 12/07/2024 21:00

teach her how and where to punch. People always seem to react so badly to anything that causes even a wee amount of blood.

TowerRavenSeven · 12/07/2024 20:58

Good I’m glad! She was defending herself!

Iwasafool · 12/07/2024 20:52

MotherOfOlafs · 12/07/2024 18:43

I’m concerned that he can ‘prove’ she hurt him with the scratch marks and she doesn’t have any injuries you can see. I just would never want anything to come back on her if you see what I mean.
Plus I’m obviously not unhappy about it otherwise I’d have put the YABU/YANBU question the opposite way round

I get why that worries you but if they hang out in a group won't the others back her up?

TheSilentSister · 12/07/2024 19:05

She needs to tell him that until he can learn to behave himself, he's no longer welcome in their group.
If you're concerned about him complaining then be pro-active and inform school and his parents. This has to stop. He needs to learn about boundaries otherwise his behaviour may escalate.
Your DD did nothing wrong, she reacted out of fear and pain. She has to have your backing to give her the confidence to stand up to herself.

soscarlet · 12/07/2024 18:54

For gods sake don’t make her apologise for defending herself against a boy who was touching her after repeatedly being told no. She should be praised for sticking up for herself.

JuiceBoxJuggler · 12/07/2024 18:50

In the adult world - fuck around and find out. Good on her for defending herself.

MissUltraViolet · 12/07/2024 18:46

Well done to your daughter, she defended herself and had every right to do so.

Tell her you are proud of her and if Alf hasn't learned his lesson to do it harder next time.

AGodawfulsmallaffair · 12/07/2024 18:45

Good for her, but I’d have had words with the school, his parents, and him, before now.

MotherOfOlafs · 12/07/2024 18:43

Allthegoodnamesaregone1 · 12/07/2024 18:08

What is wrong with you that you hear your daughter has been assaulted and you're unhappy she defended herself?

I’m concerned that he can ‘prove’ she hurt him with the scratch marks and she doesn’t have any injuries you can see. I just would never want anything to come back on her if you see what I mean.
Plus I’m obviously not unhappy about it otherwise I’d have put the YABU/YANBU question the opposite way round

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legalseagull · 12/07/2024 18:38

I'd be proud of her

KeirSpoutsTwaddle · 12/07/2024 18:33

Why is he only doing it to her? Is he a muppet that everyone else has been rude to but she’s been ‘kind’?

Createausername1970 · 12/07/2024 18:32

Nope. She is fine.

Teenage justice. It was very common back in the 70s, glad to hear it still survives.

PasteldeNata78 · 12/07/2024 18:31

Sorry OP but I'm struggling to understand why you're all such wet wipes.
The moment this boy touched anybody without permission - let alone hurt them he should have been cut out of the friend group.

What's with all this 'telling the teacher' nonsense? Why are they still hanging out with him? No way would I let any of my DC carry on like this. Unless you're going to drip feed some massive backstory.

plainjayne8282 · 12/07/2024 18:29

No, I don't think she was in the wrong.

A) she has previously asked him not to do it,

B) it was self defence

Skyrainlight · 12/07/2024 18:23

You need to teach her better boundaries, she shouldn't be friends with someone who keeps hurting her. I'm glad she scratched Alf, he deserved worse.

Riapia · 12/07/2024 18:22

Allthegoodnamesaregone1 · 12/07/2024 18:09

So why isn't he doing it to the boys?

Probably because when he tried it he got a smack in the mouth.
😉.

Noseybookworm · 12/07/2024 18:19

She wasn't in the wrong. Hopefully he'll think twice about putting his hands on her in the future! I wouldn't be happy with my daughter hanging around with someone who doesn't understand that no means no. Maybe she should re-evaluate the friendship.

AlmostAJillSandwich · 12/07/2024 18:19

So he's a 14 year old boy who repeatedly puts his hands on people (females) against their wishes, whilst knowing he's hurting them physically when doing so? He doesn't take "no" for an answer, even when told repeatedly not to do this to them, so has no respect for boundaries. Then, when a girl retaliates to physically stop him, he plays the victim, and gets verbally abusive?

This boy is a walking red flag, i'd be telling my daughter to cut all contact with him.
It's doing something to annoy/cause pain now, but what's to stop him applying the same behaviour in a sexual way in future?

Allthegoodnamesaregone1 · 12/07/2024 18:09

MotherOfOlafs · 12/07/2024 18:05

That’s what I’m thinking, twisting her foot could’ve really damaged it.

I honestly don’t think he’s a bad kid, just a bit of an idiot and the messing about went far too far

So why isn't he doing it to the boys?

Allthegoodnamesaregone1 · 12/07/2024 18:08

What is wrong with you that you hear your daughter has been assaulted and you're unhappy she defended herself?

Iwasafool · 12/07/2024 18:07

I think I'd want to have a talk with her about why she is spending time with someone who is deliberately hurting her. That would really worry me.

FionnulaTheCooler · 12/07/2024 18:07

Good for her. Tell her if he ever tries to get physical with her again to dish out a swift kick to the balls.